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Old 10-11-2017, 08:07 PM   #1
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Pokercast 477 - Stars' New “Poker” Game, Strategy, Mailbag & More

Episode #477 - October 11th, 2017

Live from the Two Plus Two Studios - On this episode of the Pokercast: We discuss PokerStars new game format “Power Up”. To begin the guys chat about the Vegas Golden Knights home opener and Canadian winter before getting into the news. "Power Up” has been released on the Pokerstars EU sites and we chat about the format and discuss whether it really qualifies as a Poker game since it is using more than your standard 52 card deck. Also Scott Tom, one of the founders of Absolute Poker gets the white collar crime treatment upon returning to the US. We also have some funny tweets from Joe Ingram and others in 140 or less before getting into the mail. In the Mailbag we answer your questions about a tournament format idea, the Monty Hall problem and a review of Hellmuth on Tim Ferriss.

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Old 10-11-2017, 08:09 PM   #2
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Old 10-11-2017, 08:12 PM   #3
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Old 10-11-2017, 08:21 PM   #4
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I do not like bronze. But like all the new episodes.
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Old 10-11-2017, 08:40 PM   #5
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Old 10-12-2017, 06:39 AM   #6
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Monty Hall game is the best. My wife still won't accept the solution.
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:09 AM   #7
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The Monty Hall problem.

Your first choice is 1 in 3.

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Old 10-12-2017, 08:43 AM   #8
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Scrabble tiles have the letters printed on rather than them being raised or sunken. You can't just feel the letters in the bag.

Also you do want the Q or the X, they're worth more points.

With the tournament idea, I don't know why TChan was suggesting that chips needed to be added or removed. As far as I understand what the guy was trying to say you just make the levels longer or shorter.

Example:

1 million chips in play with a 50BB minimum rules. At any given point in the tournament there are x players and the BB is y chips.

You play as normal so long as 50xy < 1000000 and you stick at that blind level until you lose a player.

You never have to add or take away chips since x cannot go up, only down and y never increases unless the inequality still holds true.
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:38 AM   #9
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winamax have a format where avg stack stays around 30bb through the mtt
https://www.winamax.fr/en/news_disco...rnaments-31474
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:47 AM   #10
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:11 AM   #11
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Old 10-17-2017, 10:24 PM   #12
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LHE Hand #1

I've never played as high as TC nor been as successful, but with AJ, I almost always bet turn here and then decide between checking back and betting the river. Then again in the live games I play I have a well built reputation for firing 3 bullets, which is something you can't do as often in tourneys, as well as you don't have the built in history.

If your opponent does have a hand like 74/75 etc. they will call the turn but not the river. Then again, they might c/r the turn which then you are folding away the best hand.

I 100% agree that the river is a bet as played. Seems from his line he has showdown value, or else he would have bluffed at some point, yes?
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Old 10-18-2017, 01:07 PM   #13
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LHE Hand #1

I've never played as high as TC nor been as successful, but with AJ, I almost always bet turn here and then decide between checking back and betting the river. Then again in the live games I play I have a well built reputation for firing 3 bullets, which is something you can't do as often in tourneys, as well as you don't have the built in history.

If your opponent does have a hand like 74/75 etc. they will call the turn but not the river. Then again, they might c/r the turn which then you are folding away the best hand.
I think your last point is the main thing. When you start playing against very tough players, they will have a significant semibluff range on the turn here and it's much more disastrous to fold the best hand (or even worse, call turn and fold missed river) than it is to protect against drawing hands. Many high-limit players will turn a lot of 4x/5x hands into bluffs here, balanced by their turned two pairs and (less frequently) flop slowplays. Another factor is if you let the turn check through, you often pick up bluffs on the river from a junkload of hands because people usually bluff way too much on these type of boards when the turn goes check-check. You get to pick off everything from 4x, 5x, 98, QT; most non-elite players have no sense of balance/weighting here and just think "well I can't win a showdown, so I should bluff".

tldr My guess is from a GTO sense, checking AJ here is right*. In a game against weak/passive players who will never semibluff check-raise, betting is probably fine.

*I've been trying to run this by Cepheus as a HUHU hand for the last two hours, but either I inputted it wrong or the servers are crazy slow right now. Still working.
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Old 10-18-2017, 01:09 PM   #14
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Thanks for the response! Yes, against live 20/40 average to bad players, betting the turn is better. Against the tougher opponents, checking is better. And the tourney you are in, I agree. Thanks.
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