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Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist
Wow, interesting... thanks for that. So then it's quite possible that line would also determine if a hand is folded/dead, even if it's retrievable?
I'd originally addressed this above and edited it out. I should have gone with my gut. No. It's not a magic line of irretrievability. I've seen cards that were over that line and had physically touched the muck (another magical event that a player who can't beat that hand likes to invoke), but were otherwise identifiable beyond doubt, retrieved and tabled.
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It's really saying something that every thread about poor etiquette, angle-shooting or flat-out cheating will almost certainly contain a post to the effect of "this is nothing, happens daily in L.A." I'm getting the impression that the most loathsome, miserable people in the world are Southern California poker regs.
I'd say Los Angeles is the worst overall of places I've played, but Commerce seems to attract more than its fair share of problem players. There are some rooms that take bad behavior seriously. Hustler comes to mind in that regard. The room sets the tone, and I've gone on this rant in the Los Angeles and Commerce threads a few times, so I won't rehash it here.
That said, I haven't played any of the Indian casinos, and at Oceans 11 only a couple times, so I can't say all SoCal poker rooms are as bad as LA. Also, it only takes one player at a table to ruin your experience. It's not like you sit down at Commerce and the other 8 players are all *******s. But unfortunately you are practically guaranteed to get one or two, and that's too many.
Also, factor in that I mostly play LHE, and as the guys have joked on the show, they may just be a more miserable lot in general.
Last edited by STinLA; 09-05-2017 at 01:09 PM.