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***Official PCA '2+2 Choice' Event Nominations Thread*** ***Official PCA '2+2 Choice' Event Nominations Thread***

10-27-2010 , 02:05 PM
My entry for the 2+2 choice event

Forgot the seemingly important headline... Sorry for reposting

Limit Anaconda

At the beginning of each hand, each player must pay an ante to receive cards. This is just a small bet that’s usually equal in size to 10% of the lower betting limit. So if you’re playing in a $10/$20 Anaconda game, the antes would be $1.00.

Each player is then dealt seven cards face down. The player to the left of the dealer receives the first card, and then each player to the left receives one card in turn. This process continues until every player has seven cards.
First Betting Round

The first betting round begins with the player to the left of the dealer. This player may bet, check or fold. The betting action continues to the left around the table until all the players have had a chance to bet and all bets have been matched. The bets in this round should be placed in increments of the lower betting limit.
First Pass

Now each player chooses three cards from his hand and passes those cards to the player to the left. Each player will simultaneously lose and gain three cards in this fashion.
Second Betting Round

Another betting round begins with the player to the left of the dealer. This round of betting is played in the same manner as the previous round.
Second Pass

In this round, each player chooses two cards to pass to the left.
Third Betting Round

After the players get their new cards, there is another betting round. This round also begins with the first player to the left of the dealer. From here on out, the bets should be made in increments of the upper betting limit.
Third Pass

Each player chooses one more card to pass to the left. This is the final pass.
Fourth Betting Round

There is one more round of betting identical to the previous betting round.
Pick Five

Now each player chooses five of the seven cards to make up his final five card poker hand. The remaining two cards can be discarded. The players then put their cards face down in a stack in front of them.

At the signal of the dealer, each player then reveals one card of his choice.
Fifth Betting Round

There is one more round of betting.
Showdown

Any players remaining after the last betting round now reveal the rest of their cards. The player with the best five card poker hand wins the pot.
10-27-2010 , 07:26 PM
My entry for the PCA 2+2 Choice Contest

2 + 2 = 4


After looking through the PCA schedule, I think what’s missing is a team event. The overriding theme of the PCA is that it breaks off from the casino culture and in general is much more fun, with the social aspect being just as important as the poker played.
Therefore, my suggestion is a team based tournament where a team of 2 is randomly assigned to another team of 2 (2+2...cwidut?) and in turn you end up with a team of 4. There are two prizepools, one for individual performance like a traditional tournament, and the other for teams. Of course, individuals without an initial partner can be paired up with others to make teams if needed. Each team would get something like t-shirts with room for a teamname, which would serve as a nice memento of the trip and a further incentive to play (am pretty sure stars could sort this out). The random pairings would happen with X time before play, so you could discuss any strategies, agree on team names etc with your new teammates.

The buyin would be something along the lines of a 66%+33%+X per person, where 66% goes to a normal tournament prize pool and 33% to a team prizepool. I think the best format would be NLHE, with a relatively standard structure. Points would go backwards, i.e. if 100 runners, 1st gets 100 points, 100th 1 point. Team points are then accumulated with a leader board paying out prizes per team. This format also gives an opportunity for spot prizes – first team with all members out, last team overall, most cashes etc. Could have prizes for the bubble team and bubble boy/girl as well. There would no doubt be a vast market for prop bets between both rival teams and individuals too.

Whilst this is going on during day 2, there is nothing to stop there being 2+2 style cash games spreading dealers choice going on for those that busted.
I have attended team tournaments before and they’re great fun. Even when you’ve busted you have a sweat.

I think this type of tournament is ideal as a choice in that it reflects on what I see as the core value of 2+2: community. Not only that, it actually gives the players a chance to be paired with Pokerstars Pros like DN, BarryG or Liv Boree, which is a pretty sick opportunity! (Am sure there could be a joke about FTPs learn, chat and play with the pro’s malarkey here.)

Of course, the downside is you could end up with Mike and Adam.

Gl all,

-SL
10-27-2010 , 09:21 PM
My entry for the PCA 2+2 Choice Contest

Action [/B]No Limit - Stud Hi-Low 8 - 6 max Shootout. (split pot format)


Each Player starts with 2000 in chips and and six tokens. Ante is 100.

Dealer is randomly selected

The play is simple. Each person has a choice.

1) Go All in

or

2) Fold and give up a token.

3) Once a player has exhausted all six "fold" tokens, the player must go all in.

Play continues until a winner of the table is declared and you go on to the next table until a touney winner is declared.


Paul M

Last edited by boneyardxxx; 10-27-2010 at 09:23 PM. Reason: Add Split Pot Format
10-28-2010 , 02:38 AM
My entry for the PCA 2+2 Choice Contest\


Tag Team Holdem

Played as a team of 2 players sitting next to each other. One player is Hi the other is Lo. Hi player gets dealt 2 cards, if he folds preflop, the Lo player gets to play his discards. Hi players play against each other while Lo players with each other. Both groups play on the same board. Action is first completed for the high players then the low players before each street is dealt. For both players high hands win.

The first time a team player is knocked out, the team's chips get chopped between them. The second time a team player is knocked out the team is knocked out and their remaining chips are taken out of play.

clearly I just pulled this out of my *** but it would be interesting to think about the strategy involved and the team match ups would be quite fun. Lederer Hi+Ivey Lo FTW (in b4 this is a PS event)

Last edited by desperad0oo7; 10-28-2010 at 02:50 AM.
10-28-2010 , 04:24 AM
Think team events goes out the window. Im going alone if im going and im playing for myself and noone else. if im teamed up with fishy mc fish who luckboxed a sattelite im gonna feel pretty bad about playing this event if its a teamevent.

Not to rain on your parade. Just putting my thoughts in.
10-28-2010 , 05:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by isac1984
Think team events goes out the window. Im going alone if im going and im playing for myself and noone else. if im teamed up with fishy mc fish who luckboxed a sattelite im gonna feel pretty bad about playing this event if its a teamevent.

Not to rain on your parade. Just putting my thoughts in.
I think you should choose your teammate and reg as a team
10-28-2010 , 08:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by desperad0oo7
I think you should choose your teammate and reg as a team
Yeah. Tho like i said ill be traveling alone and noone i know or even seen play except for pros will be there, so its still kinda random. Wich could be both good and bad i guess. Anyway, not my desicion. The judges will obv know what to pick and why.
10-28-2010 , 09:21 AM
first off fu clayton and JP for stealing my first and 2nd ideas for awesome tourneys I got you both into that game so if they are chosen I expect all the gombay smashes I can drink during the week there on you.

My submission is a NL action hour rebuy tourney where you can rebuy any amount of buyins at any point during rebuy period. I think a smallish buyin like 50/100$ would be perfect. There are other special rules for this tourney. The show 1 card game must be played, rules of this game is who ever wins the pot the last person to fold gets to pick 1 of their opp cards to show even if it's a win preflop one card minimum must be shown. I also think the antees should be 15% of the bigblind this tourney being dealt 7 handed cuz f it who ever does that. If submitted I'll gladly do neils work with the blinds for this event. Also the blinds will regress during the rebuy period to induce action i.e. start at 200/400 and work down to 25/50 at end of rebuy period. Once rebuy period is over it goes to 250/500, upto a 10x addon as well. I've been up for many hours if this is incoherant I apologize.
10-28-2010 , 03:43 PM
My game is called "Ultimate Badugi"
The tournement format is the same as a texas hole'em format.
The rules: You get 4 cards in your hand. Then there's a flop with only two cards. A turn with one card and a river with one card. You must use two of the cards in your hand to make the best badugi hand. The rules for a badugi hand stays the same four card,three card,two card. Try this game out. It's awesome.
10-28-2010 , 11:12 PM
I got this

My entry for the 2+2 choice event

15 game mix

8-game+PL5CD+badugi+baduci+baducey+PLO8+Chinese+NLSD
10-29-2010 , 07:18 PM
Six-Max Half PLO with antes/half nl
10-29-2010 , 07:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sweepit
My game is called "Ultimate Badugi"
The tournement format is the same as a texas hole'em format.
The rules: You get 4 cards in your hand. Then there's a flop with only two cards. A turn with one card and a river with one card. You must use two of the cards in your hand to make the best badugi hand. The rules for a badugi hand stays the same four card,three card,two card. Try this game out. It's awesome.
I like it.
10-29-2010 , 11:15 PM
My entry for the PCA 2+2 Choice Contest:

NLHE Double River:
Played like NLHE except after the Turn betting is complete there are two Rivers dealt at the same time (similar to when running the River twice). After the two Rivers have been dealt there is a round of betting. The pot can be split.
10-31-2010 , 12:12 AM
My idea is simple.
Super bounty PLO. Rebuy. Smallish buy in like 500/1000
half the buy in/rebuy is a bounty and half for the overall pool.
10-31-2010 , 04:21 AM
Heres the game you really want.

Svitten from the land of scandanavia where everything's sexier.

Basically its a split pot game.

Its five card omaha/five card draw.

On the flop you get one draw and you draw to both your five card draw hand as well as your omaha hand.

Half the pot goes to the best omaha hand and half the pot goes to the best five card draw hand.
10-31-2010 , 12:28 PM
My entry for the PCA 2+2 Choice Contest

7 Card Discard PL Omaha - 6 max

Usual Omaha rules apply except you are dealt 7 cards pre flop. Everyone discards one card. Betting takes place. Flop is dealt. Everyone discards one card. Betting takes place. Turn is dealt. Everyone Discards one card. Plays out as normal
10-31-2010 , 03:49 PM
The game is called: "2 + 2 ~ NL - Hold’em"

The game works like a standard NL Hold'em event however each player in the event will be given 2 "run-it-twice" tokens they can play throughout the tourney.

The tokens can be played if the player wants to RUN IT TWICE under one condition:
-they are in a showdown against a single opponent where cards have already been turned over. (ie. one of them is all-in)

The dealer will give the player all-in a "run it twice" option first. If they take it, one of their tokens is used. The dealer will give the other player a "run it twice" option second if the first has declined. If both players are equally stacked, the player first to act gets priority.

The "run it twice" option will apply only at the point where the cards are turned over.
(ie. run the whole board twice, or the turn and river, or just the river depending on when the cards were turned)

The tokens have no chip value and cannot be transfered in any way. They are either used or not used. A player may be eliminated while still holding 1 or 2 tokens if they chose not to use it. Every token used or taken should be accounted for by the tournament in some way.

Blinds should be only slightly accelerated to compensate for the longer tournament as it will naturally reduce some variance and create more split pots.

Two chances to Run it Twice.

2 + 2...

Thanks.
10-31-2010 , 04:30 PM
My entry for the PCA 2+2 Choice Contest
The game is called: "2 + 2 ~ NL - Hold’em"

The game works like a standard NL Hold'em event however each player in the event will be given 2 "run-it-twice" tokens they can play throughout the tourney.

The tokens can be played if the player wants to RUN IT TWICE under one condition:
-they are in a showdown against a single opponent where cards have already been turned over. (ie. one of them is all-in)

The dealer will give the player all-in a "run it twice" option first. If they take it, one of their tokens is used. The dealer will give the other player a "run it twice" option second if the first has declined. If both players are equally stacked, the player first to act gets priority.

The "run it twice" option will apply only at the point where the cards are turned over.
(ie. run the whole board twice, or the turn and river, or just the river depending on when the cards were turned)

The tokens have no chip value and cannot be transfered in any way. They are either used or not used. A player may be eliminated while still holding 1 or 2 tokens if they chose not to use it. Every token used or taken should be accounted for by the tournament in some way.

Blinds should be only slightly accelerated to compensate for the longer tournament as it will naturally reduce some variance and create more split pots.

Two chances to Run it Twice.

2 + 2...

Thanks.
10-31-2010 , 08:14 PM
My idea for the 2+2 tournament is

Not quite so rushed poker
Essentially a NLHE tourn with half hour levels. After each level the tables break, there is then a 5 min break for you to move to your newly assigned table. Would allow you to meet alot of diff 2p2ers/people in general, and think it would be pretty fun to play.
10-31-2010 , 09:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by electrical
My entry for the PCA 2+2 choice contest

SWINGO
Rules of Swingo:

Pot-limit game played with two equal blinds. Everyone is dealt five cards and there is a round of betting. After the betting closes, each player chooses two of his cards to place face-down as his hole cards. Once hole cards are down, players expose the remaining three cards, forming a board resembling Fifth street in stud.

The exposed cards ("the Board") remain in play unless the hand holding them folds, wherein they are mucked. (Note: folding without action pending is not allowed) There is another round of betting, starting with the best board showing (as in stud) After the betting is closed, a single community card, "the river," is dealt and there is a final round of betting, starting with the best board showing (not including the community river card). The best five-card hand wins.

Here's the good part: A player may use any one of the other players' exposed cards (the Board, not another player's hole cards) in his hand. More than one player may use the same Board card. Any player may use the river card in his hand. Players are not required to use any board cards or the river card to make their hands. A player must use a minimum of three cards from his original five-card hand.

---- [hole cards] board cards
Seat 1 [K K] 9 7 T
Seat 2 [A K] J Q 5
Seat 3 [9 5] 5 9 K

River: 7

If all three players see showdown, Seat 1 has Kings full of Sevens, Seat 2 has an Ace-high heart flush and seat 3 has Nines full of Fives.

If seat 3 folds before showdown, Seat 1 has two pair Kings and Sevens, and Seat 2 has Broadway.

If Seat 2 folds, Seat 1 has Kings full of Sevens and Seat 3 has Nines full of Fives.

If seat 1 folds Seat 2 has a flush and seat 3 has Fives full of Nines.


The thing that makes Swingo so great is that betting and raising have different functions than in any other poker game. Often it will be obvious that a card from player A's board completes some big hand for player B, so player C needs to structure the action in a way that forces A to fold, because he will then beat player B. Because the betting is pot limit, these situations are complicated by the potential size of a bet or raise. Certain hands require bigger pots in the beginning so a bet or raise later in the hand can punch harder, while certain hands need other boards in play, so value can be gotten once the hand is made. In some instances, there is a fine line between betting your hand for value and risking an opponent folding a card you need.

In the example hand, river betting would start with Seat 3, who would bet with impunity, having several ways to make a full house. Seat 1 may not be able to raise if he fears seat 2 cold-calling and seat 3 folding. If seat 2 realizes from seat 1's flat that seat 3 makes a big hand for seat 1, his best play is to re-pot, which may force a fold out of seat 3, winning him the pot.
Argh! I was going to say everyone should go back to the albini podcast and recommend SWINGO!

ps: hi steve
10-31-2010 , 11:14 PM
My entry for the PCA 2+2 Choice Contest: Crazy Banana 8-or-better

First of all this a game variation that I came up with. If it exists or it is similar to somebody else submission or the name is taken then please forgive me.

The game is a variation of Crazy Pineapple, which is in turn a variation of Hold'em, with some Omaha borrowed concepts.

I decided to call it "Crazy Banana" and to make it even more interesting I think it should be played Hi/Lo. So the proposal is "Crazy Banana 8-or-Better".

It is in fact quite simple.

Each player gets 3 cards. Similar to Omaha the player must use 2 and exactly 2 cards from his hand in combination with 3 cards from the board to make a hand. In the Hi/Lo version the player can use 2 different cards to make the Hi and the Lo (like in Omaha 8-or-better).

The difference between this game and Crazy Pineapple is that the players do not discard a card. Instead, they pass a card to the player on their left that is still in the hand before EVERY round of betting. So pre-flop, the very first action is to pass a card to the left and then the betting starts. The same applies for every betting round, after the flop -> pass a card then betting starts, etc.

I think it would be interesting because by the river you might have already seen up to 4 other cards that are in play and the cards that you might want to pass or keep might change as the board changes. I think the high-low version might be more interesting because you might not be to keen to pass deuces and threes around.

I think this game would have lots of action so maybe limit would work but I think PLO could work too. I have actually never played this game but it sounds like fun to me.

I hope I didn't left anything out.
11-01-2010 , 05:01 PM
Gl to all ahead of tomorrows show!

Last edited by _Steven Levitt_; 11-01-2010 at 05:17 PM. Reason: inb4 MJ
11-01-2010 , 05:03 PM
Nominations are now closed The 8 finalists will be named on this weeks show. And voting for the quarter final round will commence before the end of the day tomorrow.
11-02-2010 , 03:24 PM
Here are your 8 finalists as announced on today's show.

1) warnow - 6-pack 6-max tournament

2) JP OSU - badugaha

3) davidv1213 - NLH w/button move based on dice roll

4) ichbin - Omaha Draw

5) jzeig2313 - Second Best Hand Holdem(Limit)

6) Russ Fox - Binglaha

7) electrical - Swingo

8) Zimmer414 - Ante Up

There were several honorable mentions that made the shortlist:
Turn Up he Sun - Reverse NL Holdem
clunged - 7 card discard PLO
Steven Leavitt - 2+2 = 4 Team Event
48k Spectrum - NL Holdem Golf
baptzmoffire - 2+2 Theme Holdem
jefkve - 8 game winners call
meekerma - shrinking table size shootout

just to name a few

      
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