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***Official PCA '2+2 Choice' Event Nominations Thread*** ***Official PCA '2+2 Choice' Event Nominations Thread***

10-20-2010 , 01:38 PM
As announced on this weeks Pokercast(Episode 144), on the heels of a very successful NAPT Los Angeles Satellite promotion, PokerStars is holding a new contest for Pokercast Listeners and the 2+2 community.

The Contest
Choose the format for Event #34 on the 2011 PokerStas Caribbean Adventure Schedule.
http://www.pokerstars.com/caribbean-adventure/schedule/

Anything goes. Tip: To win, it should obviously be an event the judges feel players will want to actually sign up to play in.

Submitting a Nomination
Post your format in this thread. Please start your post with the heading. My entry for the PCA 2+2 Choice Contest. Under that heading, explain the details of your game. Be thorough. If we have to ask too many questions about the format, it probably won't be selected for the finals. PokerStars will determine the buy-in so you don't have to worry about buy-in amount. Blind Structure detail should be added only if pertinent to your submission. Your format has to be playable with a standard 52 card deck.


Timeline/Voting

1) Nominations close at midnight on Sunday, October 31st and the 8 finalists will be announced on the November 1st 2+2 Pokercast. Judges for
the 8 finalists will be representatives from PokerStars and the 2+2 Pokercast

2) The Finals will be a bracketed polling structure consisting of 4
quarter-final heads-up votes, 2 semi-final heads-up votes, and 1 final vote
to determine the winner. Voting for these rounds will be made by the 2+2
community at large.

Schedule
Voting will take place from November 2nd - November 9th.
November 2nd-5th(quarter-finals)
November 6-7th(semi-finals)
November 9th (finals)

The winning format and contest winner will be announced on the WSOP Main Event November 9 round table show recorded on November 10th.

The Prize
1) $1000 for airfare to the Bahamas
2) Hotel at the unbelievable Atlantis Resort on Paradise Island
http://www.pokerstarscaribbeanadvent...bout-atlantis/
3) Entry into the inaugural '2+2 Choice' Event at the PCA
*if the winner has already won a PCA package, their accommodations will be upgraded to a 'Cove Suite'. You will still receive parts 1 and 3 of the prize.


General Notes

1) Only one submission per account - come up with your best idea before
posting but don't wait too long and risk someone stealing your idea.
2) Posting multiple entries on gimmick accounts will result in having all
of your entries disqualified.
3) No editing your entry with follow-up post. Once your format has been posted, that will be considered your entry.
3) No whining rule in effect. Any 'he/she stole my idea posts will be deleted'. Obviously there will be some submission that are similar. Any exact duplicate submissions will be ignored by the judges in the nomimations round and first submitted with a similar idea will be given consideration.

Contest starts........now!

**The 2+2 legal department requires us to make this statement: this PokerStars contest is not officially sponsored or endorsed by Two Plus Two Publishing or TwoPlusTwo Interactive. The PokerStars VIP Club is the presenting sponsor of the 2+2 Pokercast.
10-20-2010 , 02:22 PM
My entry for the PCA 2+2 Choice Contest
6 Pack 6 Max Tournament

This is basically a hold'em game where there is a circle of 6 community cards and you must use your two hole cards in combination with three consecutive cards.

The rounds go like this: each player is dealt two hole cards, followed by the first betting round. Then two of the board cards at opposite sides of the circle (call them 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock) are dealt, followed by a second betting round. Two more opposite community cards are dealt (2 o'clock and 8 o'clock), followed by a third betting round. Finally, the 4 o'clock and 10 o'clock cards are dealt followed by a fourth and final betting round, and showdown.

At showdown, each player makes a hand by combining his two cards with any three consecutive cards of the board. That is, he can use 12, 2, and 4; or 2, 4, and 6; or 6, 8, and 10; etc. So cards dealt to opposite sides of the circle will never appear in the same final hand.
10-20-2010 , 03:18 PM
My entry for the Pca 2+2 choice event

a simple idea but staying with the trend of poker. Super/hyper turbo shootout. Super turbos are becoming more and more popular. Followthe trend with the first ever super turbo live tourny. Beacause of fast KO it will have to be a shootout type format. Another change would be top 3 advance instead of winner only. This will be more like superturbo sng. Start with 10bb and make the levels 10 mins to get the same amont of hands as the 3 min levels online. Start blinds at 100/200 so you only need to use 2 values of chips to keep it easy. Have the payouts where eeryome who gets through 1 round wins the same prize. Till the FT then have the top 3 only get bonus money like a sng. You will be combining sng and mtt format.

Sorry if it's all over the place posting on my phone
10-20-2010 , 03:19 PM
My entry for the PCA 2+2 Choice Contest

No Limit Holdem Trifecta

Basic Rules:
This is a game played exactly like No Limit Holdem, except with the following changes.

This is a 6 max game with no limit betting, but it can be played with up to 8 players. The button makes an ante of one big blind.

Players are dealt 3 cards facedown and there is a round of betting.
Then the flop is dealt, followed by a draw step, then a round of betting.
Then the turn is dealt, followed by a draw step, then a round of betting.
Then the river is dealt, followed by a draw step, then a round of betting.
Then there is the showdown. Players may use any combination of the 3 cards they have and the 5 community cards to make the best standard poker 5 card hand.

A draw step consists of the following: Every player in betting order either stands pat or sends 1 card only that they have into the muck. (This card can be a facedown card that they were dealt at the start, or a faceup card they recently drew into.) After everyone has decided to pat or draw, the dealer burns, then deals all players that decided to draw a new card face up.

If you completely win a pot (splitting doesn't count) with 3 face up cards as a result of drawing a card three times, it is called a "trifecta", and any other player that went to showdown with you pays you 5 big blinds. (On any street, players may fold when there is no bet to them and they are allowed to check, but on the river if someone wins a pot with a trifecta, all players that had folded instead of checking must pay the 5bb penalty as if they had went to showdown.)

Logistical BS that is only relevant for dealers to know:
Spoiler:
The dealer burns a card under a chip like normal before dealing the flop, turn, and river, and once before each draw step, for a total of 6 burn cards.

In the extremely rare event that on the 3rd draw step, more people want to draw a card than there are cards left in the deck, a single face up community draw card is put sideways in the middle of the table for all players who wanted to draw during the 3rd draw step to use.

If there are two or more players with a hand remaining at showdown, a hand must be completely tabled to claim the pot. A hand only needs to contain the cards it is using as part of its best 5-card hand in order to claim the pot.

Showing cards that are supposed to be face down carries the usual penalties as in Texas Holdem.
10-20-2010 , 07:17 PM
My entry for the PCA 2+2 Choice Contest

Tulsa Spite

Tulsa Spite is dealt like Omaha. Each player gets 4 hole cards and there will be 5 community cards. Preflop and flop betting is pot limit, turn and river betting is no limit.

There is a round of betting pre flop (pot limit betting). Once that betting is completed, but before the flop is dealt, everyone still involved in the hand must expose 1 card. This card will remain exposed for the duration of the hand unless the player who exposes it folds. Once each player has exposed their card the 3-card flop is dealt. Then there is another round of betting (pot limit).

At the end of that betting but before the turn is dealt, each player, starting with the small blind has the option to "SPITE" another player by paying the equivalent of 4 big blinds to expose 1 card at random from their hand. (the person paying the fee chooses the player, the card is chosen at random). Each player can only spite 1 other player in the hand. That newly exposed card joins their other exposed card from pre flop for everyone to see. Each player can have a maximum of 2 cards exposed so they can only be "spited" once. After everyone has finished exposing the required cards, the 1-card turn is dealt with a round of betting (no limit this time), then the river with a round of betting (no limit again). You must use 2 cards from your hand (either the exposed cards, the hole cards, or a combination of the 2) to make your final 5-card poker hand.
10-20-2010 , 08:01 PM
My entry for the 2+2 Choice Contest

Badugaha

Split pot game where the best omaha hi hand wins half the pot, and the best badugi hand wins the other half.

We played this game at the 2+2 party in Vegas and everyone had a blast, I promise it will be a great time, badugaha is such a great game.

The game is played limit, you are dealt 4 hole cards, with 5 community cards, just as in Omaha, but there are also 3 draws.

There's a ton of action b/c people just very rarely fold and it's just an awesome gambling game.
10-20-2010 , 08:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JP OSU
My entry for the 2+2 Choice Contest

Badugaha

Split pot game where the best omaha hi hand wins half the pot, and the best badugi hand wins the other half.

We played this game at the 2+2 party in Vegas and everyone had a blast, I promise it will be a great time, badugaha is such a great game.

The game is played limit, you are dealt 4 hole cards, with 5 community cards, just as in Omaha, but there are also 3 draws.

There's a ton of action b/c people just very rarely fold and it's just an awesome gambling game.
Listen to this man, this game is awesome. Most fun I've had playing poker in years.
10-20-2010 , 08:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamSchwartz
Listen to this man, this game is awesome. Most fun I've had playing poker in years.
Well, we now know who the unbiased Swiss judge won't be.
10-20-2010 , 08:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Johnson
Well, we now know who the unbiased Swiss judge won't be.
I thought this was being voted on, how am I a judge?
10-20-2010 , 08:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamSchwartz
I thought this was being voted on, how am I a judge?
[ ] Adam listened to what was said on the show because he is one of the hosts
[ ] Adam read the OP to understand the nomination process before posting
[x] Adam is a JP OSU fanboy and wll do anything to make a Badugaha tournament happen
10-20-2010 , 08:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Johnson
[ ] Adam listened to what was said on the show because he is one of the hosts
[ ] Adam read the OP to understand the nomination process before posting
[x] Adam is a JP OSU fanboy and wll do anything to make a Badugaha tournament happen
Adam is a JP fanboy, but Badugaha was always going to be one of the 8 finalists regardless if I like it or not.
10-20-2010 , 08:30 PM
My entry for the PCA 2+2 Choice Contest

NLHE Freezeout
10-21-2010 , 12:56 AM
My entry for the PCA 2+2 Choice Contest

Blind Mans Bluff (Indian Poker)

Think it has potential to be a pretty fun choice event.
10-21-2010 , 01:51 AM
My Entry:

Some variation of poker combined with a drinking game. For example, after every hand you win, you drink. Or every time you lose after putting chips in the pot, you drink. Whatever the rules, they should result in a completely drunken final table.

It would be a hoot.
10-21-2010 , 03:12 AM
My entry for the PCA 2+2 Choice Contest
"Nut Poker"

My idea comes from Bobby Fischer, who was frustrated with how players memorized moves, and how chess had become more solved. He proposed moving the the back row of chess pieces randomly so that established plays would be less important, and thinking and understanding of chess would be more important. I name my game "Nut Poker" in honor of Bobby Fischer, not because his idea is not great, but because he was a nut.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_960

Poker has the same problem, as more and more of the game is getting "solved". A great example is Sit-N-Go's with ICM calculations. It is so easy to go to Poker Stove and find out the answer to poker questions now. Nut Poker tries to decrease the value of Poker Stove or other software, and makes intuition and thinking on your feet more valuable.

It would be played like a mix game is now, with different rules each round. For this game to be played the way I would like it, you would have to remove cards and add cards to the deck each round. For example taking out two 5's, or 4 hearts, or 4 face cards, or adding cards in the same manner. The players would know precisely or generally what was being done to the deck. I do not want to lawyer up too much, but you can argue that this does meet the requirements of the rules, as it is played with a standard 52 card deck, meaning it is not a UNO deck, or a Euchre deck. My rules would make the deck no less than 48 cards, and no more than 56. (It may be necessary to just say cards can be taken out, and no cards can be added, as this takes away the need to have a second deck in use.)

If a more stringent rule for the deck is necessary, then I would still do the same, but I would make rule changes for each round such as the following, using NLH as a base. (You cannot announce ahead of time what the rules are, for the same reason you could not know the chess pieces location before hand. It needs to be a secret.)

1 Normal NLH
2 Straights cannot contain an eight
3 Flushes cannot contain and Ace or King
4 For two pair to work, the two cards must be separated by 4 cards, such as AA TT would work, but AA JJ would not.
5 Ace cannot be low
6 Straights cannot contain a 4
7 Players get dealt 3 cards instead of 2
8 Flop has 6 cards with two cards coming on the river
9 You get one round of draw with your two holdem cards.

I am sure many variations of these and other rules could be developed that would be easy for the dealers to understand. The point is it takes away from memorized play, and makes the players think on their feet more.
10-21-2010 , 06:23 AM
My entry for the Pca 2+2 choice event

PL Crazy Pineapple
10-21-2010 , 06:25 AM
My entry for the PCA 2+2 Choice Contest

10-game

So basically the usual 8-game but with the addition of Limit Badugi and PL 5-Card Draw.
I've no idea if this is already played somewhere or even has another name already but it would be fun definitively
10-21-2010 , 06:25 AM
My entry for the PCA 2+2 Choice Contest

6max nlhe where the button moves x spots to the left after each hand according to the roll of a dice
10-21-2010 , 08:52 AM
my idea which is similar to Moximals' is (for lack of a better name) 1-Up-Omaha

its PLO whereby at the time someone VPIPs preflop with a call or a raise they must flip up 1 card of their choice and that card remains exposed for the duration of the hand. if there is no PFR then the BB doesnt have to show a card. you could do pot or nl postflop or hi or hi/low. the rest of the hand plays as per a normal omaha hand.

eg preflop action is like "I pot and I show my super awesome 9 of clubs" and "I see your piss weak pot and 3 of clubs and i repot with my T of clubs".


(disclaimer:i havent played this and for some reason had the idea late last night before this thread even started)
10-21-2010 , 09:36 AM
My entry for the PCA 2+2 Choice Contest

Omaha draw:

Plays like PLO preflop. There is a round of betting after the flop as usual. Before the turn is dealt players may discard/draw as many new cards as they wish from their 4 hole cards. Continues as normal.

Best played as a cheap rebuy imo, being entirely NL during the rebuy period and then PL after the rebuy so there can be maximum gamble early on.
10-21-2010 , 09:46 AM
My entry for the PCA 2+2 Choice Contest

chinese poker obv.
bring out the degen in all of us
10-21-2010 , 10:04 AM
My entry for the PCA 2+2 Choice Contest

No Bad Beats

Played like a regular NLHE Freezeout, but with automatic re-entries to any player who is eliminated on a bad beat. During ANY BETTING ROUND, if you get all-in as at least a 70%(*) favorite and lose, you get the percentage of your chips back eqivalent to your equity in the pot.

(*Exact percentage required for "bad beat" status is flexible)
10-21-2010 , 10:20 AM
NL Holdem Golf.


The normal rules apply, except the player who wins the hand gets the button for the next hand. (just like golf the person who wins the last hole gets the honour on the next hole)

This encourages others to go after the button, especially if you have been in the blinds for a few hands in a row.

48k

Last edited by 48kspectrum; 10-21-2010 at 10:35 AM. Reason: spelling
10-21-2010 , 11:33 AM
I found some of the April Fool's day tournaments on Stars interesting. Trying to remember what they were, but it was all about blind structure. e.g. blinds stay the same, and antes go up, etc. They were insane to say the least.
10-21-2010 , 12:08 PM
My entry for the PCA 2+2 Choice Contest

Double Flop Hold'em

Played as a limit game for maximum fishiness and fun. Split pot game. Same betting and dealing with the exception of putting out a 2nd flop.

*burn
*flop 1 dealt, flop 2 dealt immediately below
*burn
*deal 1 turn only
*burn
*deal 1 river only

PLAY IT...Is a little bit more skillful than lottery!

Adrienne

      
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