First, thanks for tabulating the results for us!

I think $ cashed would reward a couple very high finishes too much over several consistent deep runs.

There's no way around the unpredictability of many pros' schedules. If I knew Elezra would play a full schedule and Ivey would disappear a couple weeks into WSOP, then I would have picked Elezra, but that's part of the fun I guess.

Waiting for my team to get tantalizing close to first, before I slip down the standings after the main event.

About the "$ cashed" comment: I totally agree. That's why I recommended a cap on any one cash. Maybe the cap is still too high?

About the unpredictability of the pros' schedules: I think this system would alleviate a lot of that. With 100s of players on your team, one player's schedule would not be as important as it is now. I did see Elezra's tweet saying he was going to play a full schedule. However, I missed Connor Drinan's tweet that he had broken his arm. Unfortunately, that's what most of the preparation for this pool comes down to: reading player's tweets. I would prefer a strategy based preparation.

Good luck the rest of the way.

Wait...what? I don't think I understand the selection process at all. I prob wouldn't be up for picking a team composed of '100s'.

Personally I like the format as it is. For instance, I think the multiple cashes of someone like Rob Mizrachi, even though totalling less than 200k, should be rewarded by more points than, say, Loren Klein's one $1m+ score, as GPI reflects.

I don't even use twitter and don't mind a bit of gambling on schedules.

Added tournaments #6 and #60
1 gamblingmonkey 7682.83
2 PokerBrat 7525.88
3 AllInNTheDark 7212.48
4 PascalKid 7193.24
5 Rabble303 7050.85
6 The Mentaculus 6687.64
7 AJF82 6571.51
8 schu81 6390.72
9 hussainsajwani 6135.86
10 Hero Value 6093.59
11 vvusteve 5952.24
12 rja87 5846.93
13 DayTripping 5683.70
14 xander biscuits 5665.99
15 Degenerate Deal 5532.77
16 Anothertroll 5479.86
17 hkyref33 5219.71
18 TheVig 5158.84
19 FerencL 5101.20
20 ATrainBoston 4990.03
21 Mark100net 4983.10
22 nebluefc 4961.11
23 goldenage 4864.03
24 SLCpunk 4801.76
25 youriw21 4581.50
26 Wilbury Twist 4533.35
27 pdh88 4514.01
28 jmills104 4433.08
29 TylerD 4408.75
30 phage 4130.97
31 jankynoname 4129.85
32 AnyTwo72 4113.07
33 Millermoney 4082.80
34 Smitty300 3815.95
35 TheDarkKnight 3704.71
36 Canadian_kidxxx 3694.89
37 Nedry 3644.99
38 kptrpt 3615.30
39 Rdsxfan 3530.58
40 PeteBlow 3369.00
41 eleanor60 3366.06
42 larskan 3277.61
43 Benyamin 3054.38
44 PlinyTheBalder 3039.16
45 Derek.John.Wrig 2860.47
46 darrinc 2496.71
47 AdamSchwartz 1675.26

You have only 12 picks (3 players, 3 cities, 3 states and 3 countries). If you pick the UK as a country you get Stevie...and Benny....and Adam and every other Brit who plays in the WSOP (100s). Your job is just to ask yourself "can the Brits get me more $ than the Germans....or the Russians....or the Canadians" etc.

The Robert Mizrachi vs Loren Klein comparison seems to be mixing pool results with "real life". Inside a pool it doesn't matter who is better - only who will get me more points.

As a poker player, I hate gambling!

Good luck hanging onto 6th (or moving up).

Ah, I got you. Though I think most would set patriotism aside & come up with more or less the same country picks.

Of course, you are doing all the work here atm; super appreciate that & don't mean to criticise as such, just offering my thoughts.

As an increasingly casual poker player, I like the combination of strategy & gambling.

Thanks! Vitch still crushing stud8 so I'm hoping for a little bump!

added tournaments #11 amd 64. the results for #11 are a real mess: they only gave GPI points to the top 310 finishers and of those 310 only 280 are listed!
1 PokerBrat 7813.76
2 gamblingmonkey 7803.61
3 AllInNTheDark 7247.36
4 PascalKid 7193.24
5 Rabble303 7050.85
6 The Mentaculus 7010.82
7 AJF82 6571.51
8 schu81 6390.72
9 hussainsajwani 6256.64
10 Hero Value 6093.59
11 xander biscuits 6020.98
12 vvusteve 5952.24
13 rja87 5846.93
14 DayTripping 5804.48
15 Degenerate Deal 5616.46
16 Anothertroll 5479.86
17 hkyref33 5340.49
18 nebluefc 5251.98
19 TheVig 5158.84
20 Mark100net 5103.88
21 FerencL 5101.20
22 ATrainBoston 4990.03
23 goldenage 4947.72
24 SLCpunk 4846.94
25 youriw21 4818.50
26 pdh88 4634.79
27 TylerD 4559.27
28 Wilbury Twist 4533.35
29 jmills104 4433.08
30 AnyTwo72 4396.28
31 phage 4130.97
32 jankynoname 4129.85
33 Millermoney 4127.98
34 TheDarkKnight 3958.06
35 Nedry 3879.20
36 Smitty300 3815.95
37 kptrpt 3777.73
38 Canadian_kidxxx 3694.89
39 Rdsxfan 3614.27
40 larskan 3548.91
41 eleanor60 3516.58
42 PeteBlow 3489.78
43 Benyamin 3204.90
44 PlinyTheBalder 3084.34
45 Derek.John.Wrig 2860.47
46 darrinc 2530.73
47 AdamSchwartz 1675.26

Ultimately, anyone is welcome to create their own fantasy league/pool, so even if a GPI POW version exists next year, your concept could easily be put into play. (i.e. I'm already interested).

Similar to your idea, I recall playing in a league where your team had to have a certain composition. So for example (these weren't the actual criteria):

Player who has won at least three past bracelets:
Player who has not won a bracelet in the last five years:
Age 50 or older:
High Stakes Poker alumnus/alumna:
U.S. nationality (per Hendon Mob):
Canadian in nationality(per Hendon Mob):
British in nationality (per Hendon Mob)
Female player:
Wild Card #1:
Wild Card #2:

The wild cards, as the name would suggest, have no restrictions and can be anyone else you choose. Of course, there are players who fit multiple categories, so you would choose strategically which "slot" you want them to fill. (e.g. it would probably be foolish to use Kristen Bicknell as your Canadian.)

In some ways, it has elements of the PEEHS/SHEEP games. The fun part is coming up with requirements that do not lend themselves to a few obvious choices. So "Past Main Event champion," "Past WSOP Player of the Year" or even "female player" would not be good categories right now, as everyone would generally gravitate toward the same 2-3 players for each.

What may not have been clear with my proposal is that I can supply all the required information. I can give you every city/state/country with a full list of their players. No research required. What I want in a pool is 100% strategy and 0% research. Just think of the amount of work required for "50 years old": trying to track down the birthdates of all those players!
Your comment about not making it too obvious is quite right. However, that is easily rectified: just put a cap on each team based on 2018 $ winnings just like this year we had the 1500 point cap.
Not sure about anyone can do this. I've put forward pool ideas before and was told by 2+2 that I shouldn't be doing that. That's why I'm making this suggestion about an already sanctioned 2+2 pool.

@AllInNTheDark @Pascalkid @Rabble303

Any sweats left in the main? Wondering how deep a Volpe run I need to ladder a bit...

I hope he will get coolered in the very first hand!! ��

So no....nothing left, but I will gather some extra points with Painter, who got 9th in PLO 6-handed

added tournaments #62 and 66:
1 gamblingmonkey 7861.04
2 PokerBrat 7813.76
3 PascalKid 7249.67
4 AllInNTheDark 7247.36
5 The Mentaculus 7068.25
6 Rabble303 7050.85
7 AJF82 6667.87
8 schu81 6504.58
9 hussainsajwani 6256.64
10 xander biscuits 6117.34
11 Hero Value 6093.59
12 vvusteve 6027.72
13 DayTripping 6000.90
14 rja87 5958.05
15 Degenerate Deal 5616.46
16 Anothertroll 5479.86
17 hkyref33 5401.80
18 nebluefc 5251.98
19 TheVig 5223.52
20 Mark100net 5200.24
21 goldenage 5142.21
22 FerencL 5101.20
23 youriw21 4997.62
24 ATrainBoston 4990.03
25 SLCpunk 4926.60
26 pdh88 4693.17
27 TylerD 4655.63
28 Wilbury Twist 4613.01
29 jmills104 4490.51
30 AnyTwo72 4396.28
31 TheDarkKnight 4205.22
32 phage 4189.14
33 Millermoney 4185.41
34 jankynoname 4129.85
35 kptrpt 4056.84
36 Smitty300 4050.00
37 Nedry 3879.20
38 Canadian_kidxxx 3844.00
39 eleanor60 3678.46
40 Rdsxfan 3671.15
41 larskan 3548.91
42 PeteBlow 3489.78
43 Benyamin 3287.65
44 PlinyTheBalder 3084.34
45 Derek.John.Wrig 2860.47
46 darrinc 2587.54
47 AdamSchwartz 1798.91

Found teams with spelling mistakes for Philip Galfond, Jake Schindler and Ryan Riess:
1 gamblingmonkey 7861.04
2 PokerBrat 7813.76
3 PascalKid 7249.67
4 AllInNTheDark 7247.36
5 The Mentaculus 7068.25
6 Rabble303 7050.85
7 AJF82 6667.87
8 schu81 6504.58
9 hussainsajwani 6256.64
10 xander biscuits 6117.34
11 Hero Value 6093.59
12 vvusteve 6027.72
13 DayTripping 6000.90
14 rja87 5958.05
15 Degenerate Deal 5616.46
16 Anothertroll 5479.86
17 hkyref33 5401.80
18 nebluefc 5251.98
19 TheVig 5223.52
20 Mark100net 5200.24
21 jmills104 5180.31
22 goldenage 5142.21
23 FerencL 5101.20
24 Wilbury Twist 5045.68
25 youriw21 4997.62
26 ATrainBoston 4990.03
27 SLCpunk 4926.60
28 pdh88 4693.17
29 TylerD 4655.63
30 Smitty300 4527.73
31 AnyTwo72 4396.28
32 TheDarkKnight 4205.22
33 phage 4189.14
34 Millermoney 4185.41
35 jankynoname 4129.85
36 kptrpt 4056.84
37 larskan 3981.58
38 Nedry 3879.20
39 Canadian_kidxxx 3844.00
40 eleanor60 3678.46
41 Rdsxfan 3671.15
42 PeteBlow 3489.78
43 Benyamin 3287.65
44 PlinyTheBalder 3084.34
45 Derek.John.Wrig 2860.47
46 darrinc 2587.54
47 AdamSchwartz 1798.91

added tournaments 65(except top 26), 67 and 69
1 gamblingmonkey 8541.86
2 PokerBrat 8361.58
3 AllInNTheDark 7835.68
4 PascalKid 7651.98
5 Rabble303 7393.54
6 The Mentaculus 7271.32
7 AJF82 7246.34
8 schu81 6966.67
9 hussainsajwani 6810.59
10 vvusteve 6510.46
11 rja87 6492.47
12 DayTripping 6395.54
13 xander biscuits 6392.48
14 Hero Value 6317.14
15 Anothertroll 6150.56
16 Degenerate Deal 5976.41
17 hkyref33 5961.30
18 nebluefc 5772.62
19 TheVig 5683.99
20 goldenage 5673.80
21 FerencL 5594.51
22 ATrainBoston 5556.45
23 Mark100net 5538.22
24 SLCpunk 5528.27
25 Wilbury Twist 5479.54
26 youriw21 5360.74
27 Smitty300 5300.31
28 jmills104 5291.06
29 Millermoney 5081.75
30 TylerD 4971.83
31 pdh88 4961.73
32 AnyTwo72 4715.46
33 jankynoname 4622.79
34 TheDarkKnight 4548.22
35 Nedry 4497.36
36 kptrpt 4366.80
37 larskan 4321.00
38 PeteBlow 4294.07
39 phage 4286.39
40 Canadian_kidxxx 4119.45
41 Rdsxfan 4076.95
42 eleanor60 3986.60
43 Benyamin 3862.90
44 PlinyTheBalder 3485.60
45 Derek.John.Wrig 3151.53
46 darrinc 2995.50
47 AdamSchwartz 2083.24

added tournaments 70 and 71
1 gamblingmonkey 8541.86
2 PokerBrat 8503.47
3 AllInNTheDark 8089.04
4 PascalKid 7905.34
5 Rabble303 7535.43
6 The Mentaculus 7382.79
7 AJF82 7372.43
8 schu81 7078.14
9 hussainsajwani 6922.94
10 vvusteve 6763.82
11 rja87 6667.48
12 DayTripping 6633.98
13 Hero Value 6631.60
14 xander biscuits 6619.26
15 Anothertroll 6390.60
16 hkyref33 6185.89
17 ATrainBoston 6034.40
18 Degenerate Deal 5976.41
19 TheVig 5908.99
20 nebluefc 5873.31
21 FerencL 5838.18
22 Mark100net 5806.20
23 youriw21 5787.55
24 goldenage 5775.58
25 Wilbury Twist 5679.64
26 SLCpunk 5528.27
27 Smitty300 5514.44
28 jmills104 5291.06
29 Millermoney 5183.53
30 TylerD 5097.92
31 pdh88 4961.73
32 jankynoname 4847.38
33 AnyTwo72 4817.24
34 TheDarkKnight 4791.90
35 Nedry 4497.36
36 kptrpt 4473.53
37 PeteBlow 4392.39
38 phage 4384.71
39 larskan 4321.00
40 Canadian_kidxxx 4221.23
41 Benyamin 4105.16
42 eleanor60 4084.92
43 Rdsxfan 4076.95
44 PlinyTheBalder 3688.07
45 darrinc 3319.41
46 Derek.John.Wrig 3151.53
47 AdamSchwartz 2179.11

added tournaments 68,72 and 73
1 gamblingmonkey 8623.77
2 PokerBrat 8503.47
3 PascalKid 8237.66
4 AllInNTheDark 8159.55
5 Rabble303 7867.60
6 The Mentaculus 7689.31
7 AJF82 7372.43
8 schu81 7280.72
9 hussainsajwani 6922.94
10 vvusteve 6831.84
11 rja87 6813.99
12 xander biscuits 6749.51
13 Hero Value 6702.11
14 DayTripping 6633.98
15 Anothertroll 6552.07
16 ATrainBoston 6422.01
17 hkyref33 6261.89
18 nebluefc 6180.86
19 FerencL 6138.10
20 Degenerate Deal 6124.32
21 TheVig 6061.42
22 Mark100net 5926.87
23 youriw21 5902.95
24 goldenage 5843.60
25 Wilbury Twist 5832.07
26 Smitty300 5672.35
27 SLCpunk 5644.47
28 jmills104 5606.85
29 Millermoney 5561.09
30 TylerD 5228.17
31 AnyTwo72 5152.70
32 jankynoname 5101.50
33 TheDarkKnight 5094.34
34 pdh88 5037.45
35 Nedry 4794.57
36 kptrpt 4772.06
37 phage 4607.93
38 PeteBlow 4579.27
39 larskan 4451.25
40 Canadian_kidxxx 4447.46
41 Benyamin 4342.21
42 eleanor60 4323.68
43 Rdsxfan 4297.40
44 PlinyTheBalder 3879.99
45 darrinc 3471.16
46 Derek.John.Wrig 3303.96
47 AdamSchwartz 2179.11

Just for fun I totaled the results up to and including the Main Event by player/city/state/country and then did a Random.Org selection to see what Adam's team would look like next year if you guys went with my suggestion. $5M cap.

PLAYERS:
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Robert Nehorayan (Sherman Oaks, CA)
Richard Klein (Littleton, Colorado)
Ignacio Barcenas (Madrid, Spain)

CITIES:
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Brooklyn, NY
Cheshunt, UK
Vail, CO

STATES:
--------
Arizona
New Hampshire
Maine

COUNTRIES:
------------
Japan
Bolivia
Ecuador

could anyone do better?

What's wrong with Arizona?

The only thing wrong with Arizona is that it took up over $3.3M of the $5M budget. Wasn't much $ left for the other 11 picks. BTW, the total cost of these 12 picks was $4,999,994.

tournament #74 added
1 gamblingmonkey 9426.91
2 PokerBrat 8942.62
3 PascalKid 8405.08
4 AllInNTheDark 8159.55
5 The Mentaculus 8128.46
6 Rabble303 7867.60
7 AJF82 7811.58
8 hussainsajwani 7524.24
9 schu81 7280.72
10 xander biscuits 7079.08
11 vvusteve 6992.82
12 Hero Value 6869.53
13 hkyref33 6863.19
14 rja87 6813.99
15 DayTripping 6796.13
16 Anothertroll 6761.88
17 TheVig 6500.57
18 ATrainBoston 6422.01
19 nebluefc 6331.65
20 Millermoney 6198.56
21 FerencL 6138.10
22 Degenerate Deal 6124.32
23 Mark100net 6089.02
24 youriw21 6065.10
25 goldenage 6014.06
26 Wilbury Twist 5983.62
27 jmills104 5916.15
28 SLCpunk 5842.79
29 Smitty300 5672.35
30 jankynoname 5477.09
31 pdh88 5355.40
32 AnyTwo72 5314.85
33 TylerD 5228.17
34 TheDarkKnight 5094.34
35 PeteBlow 4892.21
36 larskan 4858.73
37 Nedry 4794.57
38 kptrpt 4772.06
39 Canadian_kidxxx 4608.44
40 phage 4607.93
41 eleanor60 4569.01
42 Benyamin 4342.21
43 Rdsxfan 4297.40
44 PlinyTheBalder 4280.15
45 Derek.John.Wrig 3549.29
46 darrinc 3471.16
47 AdamSchwartz 2179.11

More useless info: with just 2 tournaments to go, players from 3041 different towns/cities have cashed. Here are the top 50 (using the $1M cap per cash rule). Notice that players from Long Beach California and Long Beach New York have cashed for almost the exact same amount.

1 New York NYUnited States 5751894
2 Las Vegas NVUnited States 5080650
3 Los Angeles CAUnited States 3155130
4 Jacksonville FLUnited States 2726946
5 Toledo OHUnited States 2254821
6 Troy NYUnited States 2056103
7 Houston TXUnited States 2039035
8 Philadelphia PAUnited States 2026057
9 San Diego CAUnited States 1989857
10 Chicago ILUnited States 1948966
11 Feeding Hills MAUnited States 1731053
12 West Chester PAUnited States 1585150
13 Moscow - Russia 1494729
14 Miami FLUnited States 1447671
15 Toronto - Canada 1284963
16 Cranston RIUnited States 1282361
17 Shelby Township MIUnited States 1262553
18 Paris - France 1221503
19 Brisbane - Australia 1152409
20 Indianapolis INUnited States 1151179
21 Henderson NVUnited States 1101123
22 Benxi - China 1077103
23 Kiev - Ukraine 1067478
24 Oakville - Canada 1064050
25 Meerbusch - Germany 1047195
26 Vincenna - France 1006857
27 Muskegon MIUnited States 1006764
28 West Branch MIUnited States 1005459
29 Klivery - Germany 1001295
30 Anapolis - Brazil 1000000
31 Phoenix AZUnited States 997390
32 Saint Louis MOUnited States 941535
33 Omaha NEUnited States 928150
34 London - United Kingdom 916100
35 Scharding - Austria 886793
36 Brighton - United Kingdom 863722
37 Latresne - France 833466
38 Portland ORUnited States 815189
39 Weston WVUnited States 798518
40 Long BeachCAUnited States 741473
41 Long BeachNYUnited States 740358
42 Brooklyn NYUnited States 738007
43 Manalapan NJUnited States 702328
44 Denver COUnited States 700731
45 Yallambie - Australia 691934
46 Nha Trang - Vietnam 686918
47 Ridge NYUnited States 674788
48 Tampa FLUnited States 657106
49 Copenhagen- Denmark 653961
50 Woodinville WAUnited States 650746

added tournaments #76 & 77:
1 gamblingmonkey 9426.91
2 PokerBrat 9081.37
3 PascalKid 8940.37
4 Rabble303 8402.89
5 The Mentaculus 8385.30
6 AllInNTheDark 8159.55
7 AJF82 7811.58
8 hussainsajwani 7677.17
9 schu81 7280.72
10 xander biscuits 7079.08
11 Hero Value 7008.28
12 vvusteve 6992.82
13 rja87 6952.74
14 DayTripping 6949.06
15 hkyref33 6863.19
16 Anothertroll 6761.88
17 TheVig 6500.57
18 ATrainBoston 6422.01
19 Wilbury Twist 6400.34
20 Millermoney 6386.77
21 nebluefc 6331.65
22 jmills104 6306.55
23 Degenerate Deal 6235.40
24 youriw21 6218.03
25 FerencL 6138.10
26 Mark100net 6089.02
27 goldenage 6014.06
28 SLCpunk 5981.54
29 Smitty300 5825.28
30 jankynoname 5624.56
31 AnyTwo72 5439.36
32 pdh88 5355.40
33 TylerD 5228.17
34 TheDarkKnight 5217.80
35 Canadian_kidxxx 5198.71
36 larskan 5077.70
37 Nedry 4982.78
38 kptrpt 4896.57
39 PeteBlow 4892.21
40 eleanor60 4784.03
41 phage 4719.01
42 Benyamin 4342.21
43 Rdsxfan 4297.40
44 PlinyTheBalder 4280.15
45 Derek.John.Wrig 3549.29
46 darrinc 3471.16
47 AdamSchwartz 2179.11

It is getting really close.... but despite the fact I’ve got more horsies cashed in event 75 than pokerbrat (as far as I can see) I think I’m not gonna make it.
How do you collect the poy points? Poy leaderboard only shows top 100. You’ve got some kind of tool for it?

We've been using the GPI system, it was all detailed in the original signup thread

we went GPI because of the fact that the main POY only shows top 100

Also life has been so busy for me recently like you wouldn't believe. New job, selling a home, moving to another country, car troubles, sub 1 year old baby and a heatwave.

I'm really grateful to FerencL for picking up the slack while I've been mostly absent. I will deal with checking and payments once this is over.

I couldn't have done it without you FerencL

Ah okay. And how do you check all this data? You don’t have to check the GPI site after each event and go through all the players, do you?