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Originally Posted by speedle
Best hand you ever played?
Two hands here, the 2nd is closer to my heart than the first, even though I ended up wimping out and folding king high to the river shove ...
Hand 1
This is from the WSOP main event. It may not be the best hand I've ever played, but I like it because
(1) it ends with me bluff-shoving the river in a multiway pot with my tournament life on the line zomg, and
(2) it's a pretty clearly +EV play that I would not have been capable of making a year ago, as if I had achieved a certain level of poker maturity (all I needed was somebody standing beside me to pat me on the back and say, "congratulations son, you've become a man.") I mean, it wasn't just "they checked so bluff because I can't win" it was "wow, that river card is perfect, I had planned to give up but now that they've both told me they don't have a straight AND I can credibly represent a straight I should shove."
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/87...-shove-248413/
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Hand 2
My favorite hand, though, is one I butchered horribly on every street. I'll walk through why I liked it, though.
http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...ue#Post5766826
Let me say a little about my game at the point the above hand takes place, even though I didn't know it at the time.
(1) I was not as tight as I thought I was. In the above hand, I raised KJo UTG to 4xBB w/a 200BB stack, then CB near pot on a dry board into 3 players ...
(2) I regularly didn't know what my plan was for the next street.
(3) I did not think clearly about Villain's range on all streets, only when facing big decisions, and even then I mostly only thought "does he have me beat, or do I have him beat?"
(4)
I was not capable of value-betting thin on the river. I was not capable of value-betting "medium" on the river either. In this hand, if I had AQ (for TPGK) I would have called a bet for sure but would never have value bet.
Villain in the hand was a better player than me. He was somewhat laggy and a good thinking player. We'd played together a fair bit and I'm pretty sure his read on me was that I was a thinking player, on the tight side, but one on whom he had an edge. He regularly played 1/2-2/4 online cash games and was capable of making moves and was a better hand-reader than I was. I believe he was aware that I would not bet the river with an ace in the above hand.
Without those vital pieces of information the hand looks really ridiculous when you post it in 2p2. It was in fact atrociously played by me, but it does have it's moment -- on the river I had a chance to redeem my poor play from the previous streets by making a crazy sick call (which I didn't make, even after tanking for about 5 minutes before folding KJo UI to a river c/shove).
This was also probably the first hand where I really seriously went through a "leveling" question. On the river my thought process went like this: "He checked so I'm pretty sure he's just giving up on his hand. I bet because I can't win the pot but I'm sure he doesn't have an ace. WTF, did he just c/shove? Man I suck, why did I bet so little with my obvious "value bet" on the river? Wait a minute ... he can't think I'd bet the river with an ace there because that's just not how I play. But I guess I can't really have many other hands either except monsters, and it's not like I ever have 76 or a set here. So if he thinks I don't have any hand better than 8x (because I would check all of those behind on the river), and he can't expect me to have a stronger hand I'll be enough to do this for value, the only reason for him to do this is if he has NO showdown value. KJo beats total air, unless he's doing this with 23 or 33 but I don't really think he'd bet those on the turn. I wish I didn't play this hand so bad up to this point so I wouldn't be faced with this tough decision."
In retrospect I should have called. I would have lost, but I should have called instead of second-guessing myself at the last minute and starting to worry about hands like 23 or 33 or 54 that might have been in his range, because honestly I didn't think they were there. Basically KJo seemed to weak to me to bluff-catch, even though it really wasn't.
The key to this hand is that he would not expect me to value bet the river with one pair but he would expect me to call with 1 pair, removing the value c/r hands from his range.
FWIW, he tabled KQhh so I guess in a FTOP sense I made a good river fold, even though in reality it was a bad river fold. How epic would it have been for me to call the river c/shove only to have to ship the 400bb pot to AKQ 98 high ... sick value bet dtbog.