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Tightest VPIP that you can play profitably?

View Poll Results: Tighest possible profitable VPIP

0-3

10 8.47%

4-5

7 5.93%

6-7

36 30.51%

8-9

31 26.27%

10-11

16 13.56%

12-13

4 3.39%

14-15

3 2.54%

16+

2 1.69%

Don't know / see results.

9 7.63%

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01-09-2008 , 11:15 PM

BigBiceps

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What do you all think that the tighest VPIP you can play profitably at the Full Tilt and PokerStars NL($1) and NL($2) games at their current state. I am not asking about maximum profit, but tightest you could play theoretically over a huge number of hands.

01-09-2008 , 11:44 PM

K.O.S.

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Paging the_main, mlane, and BT2...

EDIT: I really doubt that 0% VP$IP is profitable.

01-09-2008 , 11:48 PM

GrandMelon

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who knows who cares

01-10-2008 , 12:02 AM

RapidEvolution

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I assume one could play profitable at around 6 or 7 vpip if they were ssing...or maybe even fullstacking since there are enough tards to pay them off.

01-10-2008 , 12:32 AM

the_main

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When I first started to 12 table a year ago, I was playing 9/8 profitably with a full stack.

Games were a bit different then though.

01-10-2008 , 12:58 AM

ackbleh

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBiceps

No need for a poll... only one person is really qualified to say.

INTREPID FOX, where are you?

01-10-2008 , 01:06 AM

The Eureka Kid

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6-7 if you're short stacking

01-10-2008 , 01:08 AM

coordi

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8 fullstack at 100.

mabey 10@ 200 if your tricky?

01-10-2008 , 01:09 AM

CalledDownLight

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its a more interesting question if you say highest. I think its upwards of 50 at nl100.

01-10-2008 , 01:17 AM

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theben

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Eureka Kid

6-7 if you're short stacking

That is the number I picked, as well as the exact reason/logic behind the number

01-10-2008 , 01:27 AM

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CalledDownLight

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Eureka Kid

6-7 if you're short stacking

this is pretty damn close. I'm not sure you can be under 7 and win short, tbh.

01-10-2008 , 01:40 AM

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bottomset

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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight

this is pretty damn close. I'm not sure you can be under 7 and win short, tbh.

breakeven and make 15hr from fpps?

01-10-2008 , 01:43 AM

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CalledDownLight

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bottomset

breakeven and make 15hr from fpps?

mwh, I've never counted fpps. You can win with fpps this short, but I have shorted nl200 more than any of you guys probably and even 6-8 months ago I don't think you could win with a vpip of <7. I also have talked to someone with more than 150k hands shorting 1/2 and he was between 9-10.

01-10-2008 , 01:44 AM

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MrBuffet

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Some table selection and vpip of 4-5 with full stacks can be profitable.

01-10-2008 , 01:46 AM

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shaneomac

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tripccc and futilewar n pumuckle i presume are all winning players. its a matter of how profitable.

01-10-2008 , 01:51 AM

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CalledDownLight

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Originally Posted by shaneomac

tripccc and futilewar n pumuckle i presume are all winning players. its a matter of how profitable.

but all of them are clearly over 7 too.

01-10-2008 , 01:55 AM

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shaneomac

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oops my bad

01-10-2008 , 05:50 AM

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Sandviper23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theben

That is the number I picked, as well as the exact reason/logic behind the number

same, 6-7 shortstacking.

01-10-2008 , 06:54 AM

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king_nothing_

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CalledDownLight

its a more interesting question if you say highest. I think its upwards of 50 at nl100.

Yeah, that is more interesting.

Some big baller should go play 50/x for at least 30k hands or so and then report back here with the results. gogogo.

Last edited by king_nothing_; 01-10-2008 at 07:09 AM.

01-10-2008 , 07:20 PM

#20

KurtSF

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Had to find out who the f voted 16+. lol CDL

01-10-2008 , 07:38 PM

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WCGRider

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CalledDownLight

its a more interesting question if you say highest. I think its upwards of 50 at nl100.

If you feel this way, i think a prop bet could be arranged imo.

01-10-2008 , 08:31 PM

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QTip

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shaneomac

tripccc and futilewar n pumuckle i presume are all winning players. its a matter of how profitable.

I sincerely doubt pumuckle is a winner in the 1/2 games in the day as they have been recently.

01-10-2008 , 08:41 PM

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CalledDownLight

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Originally Posted by WCGRider

If you feel this way, i think a prop bet could be arranged imo.

It would depend how many hands we are talking about, but I would probably be interested if its not a ton or doesn't have to be done very fast.

01-10-2008 , 08:48 PM

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WCGRider

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id put down 300 at even money that you couldnt do >45 over 5k hands, or 500$ at 10k hands.

01-10-2008 , 08:49 PM

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WCGRider

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No time constraints if its reasonable imo

And you win if you make more then 0$ ldo.

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