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umm is std to have TP weak kicker + no draw to be super negative in HEM pluggin leaks #3??

I had a look and my losses there = my total profit for month

05-12-2009 , 10:37 PM

#427

Ponder

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What is the standard range of wtsd%?

05-13-2009 , 05:24 PM

#428

slowcheetah1

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Just starting 100nl on FTP, how am I losing on the button? Any other comments/suggestions would be welcome. This is FR.

Last edited by slowcheetah1; 05-13-2009 at 05:25 PM. Reason: .

05-16-2009 , 09:02 AM

#429

Spurs79

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Id be happy with that red line tho, mine is 3bb negative

05-20-2009 , 12:26 PM

#430

Kingsimpson

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With such a small sample size you cant possibly draw any conclusions about the $$ won from each position.

05-20-2009 , 04:13 PM

#431

slowcheetah1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingsimpson

With such a small sample size you cant possibly draw any conclusions about the $$ won from each position.

Don't suppose I can, more posting that to get commentary on VPIP/PFR in different positions. However, I just thought it was odd, its obv a small sample.

05-20-2009 , 04:54 PM

#432

Kingsimpson

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VPIP and PFR look completely standard for a TAG. Tight upfront and looser in late positions. I guess from looking at your stats you run at about 14/10 which is pretty average for a reg.

05-23-2009 , 03:54 AM

#433

DWarrior

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Spurs79

Id be happy with that red line tho, mine is 3bb negative

Is it even possible to have a positive red line at low stakes? He seems to be running at 8.5BB/100 when just starting out at the limit and playing ~14/10. I have to conclude he's running very well.

05-23-2009 , 12:38 PM

#434

slowcheetah1

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Over a much larger sample at 25 and 50nl my redline was still in the positive. I'm on my ltop, but I can post it up later. I'd have to agree that 8.5bb/100 is a bit hot at 100nl FR, but I would be very suprised if I can't sustain 6bb/100.

Last edited by slowcheetah1; 05-23-2009 at 12:38 PM. Reason: sp

05-27-2009 , 03:56 PM

#435

ItsRainingMen

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i don't really know what these numbers mean in terms of what it says about my play...if i can get some help i'd appreciate it

05-31-2009 , 04:36 PM

#436

peetar69

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zedveron

Ah okay, I didn't realise there were different graphs (I just found out about the ev ones) and thought there was something wrong with my graph because everybody else's red line was going up instead of breaking even. This is 400NL, I posted it here because there is no graph thread in the mid stakes forum.

LOL

Good work sir. That graph is solid. Hope you don't mind if I try to copy you.

06-08-2009 , 01:07 PM

#437

giddieup12

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using poker tracker, how do you put one of your graphs in a thread on here??
do i export it to another window and then save it somewhere??

06-10-2009 , 03:26 AM

#438

IcarusJam

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Itsraining, how many hand samp[le is this over?

06-10-2009 , 11:34 PM

#439

ItsRainingMen

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IcarusJam

Itsraining, how many hand samp[le is this over?

those were over 25k hands or so iirc

06-11-2009 , 07:41 PM

#440

imfromsweden

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So, I was thinking about moving up to 100NL, and I'd love if you guys could take a look at my stats from 50&25NL, to maybe identify some leaks. Thanks!

General stats:

Positional stats:

Graph:

06-14-2009 , 07:17 PM

#441

Fishpocalypse

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Quote:

Originally Posted by imfromsweden

So, I was thinking about moving up to 100NL, and I'd love if you guys could take a look at my stats from 50&25NL, to maybe identify some leaks. Thanks!

1) Keep running well.
2) Figure out how to play 3bet pots.
3) Figure out what you're doing in the blinds.

06-15-2009 , 04:30 AM

#442

wakeup

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wat r decent loss from SB/BB
i know there've been threads but i cant seem to find em
over the last 200k im at

sb -11bb/100
bb -32bb/100

pretty concerning cos my BB $ lost = my $ won from B
ugh

06-15-2009 , 06:46 PM

#443

giddieup12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wakeup

wat r decent loss from SB/BB
i know there've been threads but i cant seem to find em
over the last 200k im at

sb -11bb/100
bb -32bb/100

pretty concerning cos my BB $ lost = my $ won from B
ugh

hey, not positive but 90% sure bout this

-.15bb/hand from SB
and -.25bb/hand from BB
numbers equal too or less than this is pretty good

thoughts from other regs??
looks like u r doing well in SB but could work on the BB play maybe
my stats r -.13bb/hand from SB or 13bb/100 and
-.19bb/hand or -19bb/100 from BB over 110Khands

Last edited by giddieup12; 06-15-2009 at 06:50 PM. Reason: forgot something

06-16-2009 , 02:06 PM

#444

imfromsweden

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What!? I'm losing 0.46 bb/100 in the BB

06-18-2009 , 11:45 PM

#445

achilles157

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Quote:

Originally Posted by imfromsweden

So, I was thinking about moving up to 100NL, and I'd love if you guys could take a look at my stats from 50&25NL, to maybe identify some leaks. Thanks!

Also find a good coach to give you 5-10hrs. moving from 50nl to 200nl+ would be a TON easier unless your "poker IQ" is already really high.

06-19-2009 , 07:54 PM

#446

pontylad

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Quote:

Originally Posted by imfromsweden

What!? I'm losing 0.46 bb/100 in the BB

hmm i seem to be losing 30.54bb/100 from the BB.

06-20-2009 , 01:49 PM

#447

imfromsweden

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Quote:

Originally Posted by achilles157

Also find a good coach to give you 5-10hrs. moving from 50nl to 200nl+ would be a TON easier unless your "poker IQ" is already really high.

Moving up to 200+ should be noooo problem

06-21-2009 , 07:33 PM

#448

Penguinz21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KurtSF

Having a pretty red line is over-rated imo.

Sure its cool, but certainly not necessary.

I remember this from the SNE pursuit thread... $4 pre guarantees a VPP if there's flop. $3.50 it'll have to be multiway or have further action. Small change, big difference.

Is this actually good advice? Assuming you win MOST of the pots where you are the preflop raiser and you get heads up to the flop... aren't you just winning more pots that are raked heavier? Probably doesn't increase profit at all when you consider this factor, no?

06-23-2009 , 08:57 AM

#449

GT30

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well the rake is somewhat linear while vpps are more discrete so if you have a $7.95 pot you are still raked $0.35 and get no vpp while if you have $8 pot there is $0.40 rake and you get 1 vpp which is worth well over $0.05