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11-13-2012 , 03:51 PM

#10201

W3ll_D0ne

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 305

0.20 @ 100 (15/12 or something...)

11-13-2012 , 04:57 PM

#10202

premiss

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 524

SN?

11-13-2012 , 05:00 PM

#10203

juan valdez

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,686

any interest in creating a 2011 vs 2012 thread where you post your vpp/hand, MGR, RB, etc for each year

11-13-2012 , 05:31 PM

#10204

Mexican_Natis

adept

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 987

I think it would be more interesting if you had a thread that shows vpp/hand from first 3 months of this year vs that 3 months of this year to show the impact that 40bb stacks have on the amount of rake paid.

11-13-2012 , 05:33 PM

#10205

vinivici9586

Breakfast?

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 11,609

cant you just analyze in your own DB different 40bbers, and how many VPPs theyre getting compared to fullstacked regs?

11-13-2012 , 05:38 PM

#10206

Mexican_Natis

adept

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 987

Yea that would be interesting too, I was thinking more along the lines of how they impact the amount of rake paid by 100bb stacks. I wouldn't doubt if the average rake per hand has dropped a good amount as the year has progressed due to the infestation, Pokerstars would see a pretty nice increase of rake paid per hand if min buy in was 65 imo.

11-13-2012 , 06:52 PM

#10207

Slugant

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 7,137

vpp/hand is decreasing on a monthly basis now, and that goes parallel with the increase in shortstackers..
im thinking about sne in 2013 but my vpp/hand shouldnt drop any further or it will be quite impossible

edit: wow aljufo how do you get 0,40 @ 200nl, that really seems like a lot, even more because u arent the 24/20 player

11-13-2012 , 06:56 PM

#10208

Mexican_Natis

adept

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 987

Thinking about not 3betting for rest of year in order to try and reach sne while the ball is not dropping on New Years.

11-13-2012 , 07:09 PM

#10209

RKi

banned

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,141

shortstackers made me play 15/12/3.7 today

Constantly had to fold good **** in the hj/co because of the scum behind

11-13-2012 , 08:00 PM

#10210

aljufo

journeyman

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 365

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slugant

edit: wow aljufo how do you get 0,40 @ 200nl, that really seems like a lot, even more because u arent the 24/20 player

Idk, was a bit surprised also cause didn't check this for a long time. Probably the reason is starting tables.

11-13-2012 , 08:26 PM

#10211

ishipkq

old hand

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,479

i get 0.36-39 @ 200 (don't remember exactly)

11-13-2012 , 08:27 PM

#10212

Mexican_Natis

adept

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 987

is there a stat on hem1 that shows vpp rate with the wc rake method yet? Probably should know this considering it's 11 months into the year now, but am not sure.

11-13-2012 , 08:50 PM

#10213

W3ll_D0ne

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 305

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mexican_Natis

is there a stat on hem1 that shows vpp rate with the wc rake method yet? Probably should know this considering it's 11 months into the year now, but am not sure.

Sadly, there isn't...

11-13-2012 , 10:54 PM

#10214

d_smith77

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 14,652

i REALLY hate the army of fake table starters at 100. i know an argument can be made for their value, blah blah blah.... **** em

11-13-2012 , 11:48 PM

#10215

Deco354

veteran

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,270

15-20 tabling 200NL with a little 100NL mixed in. SNE possible? I suspect it isn't unless I work 60hr weeks.

I'll probably wait till 2014 when I'm at midstakes and hopefully managing more tables. Milestone bonuses don't seem like much of an incentive, I guess 500K would be an easy target though.
100K VPPs = 37%
500K VPPs = 45%
1Mil VPPs = 71%

11-14-2012 , 03:46 AM

#10216

TimStone

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 8,375

impossible is nothing but it is a ****load of work (especially if you not even play 200+ exclusively)... and if you wanna do it u have to learn to play 24...

and teh midstakes calculation is nice but a little flawed...

1. while you can 24 table 100 and if you are good 200 with a winrate this will become significantly moar difficult at 400++
2. it's very unlikely if nothing changes that you will even find enough tables fullring at teh midstakes...

11-14-2012 , 09:17 AM

#10217

Phantazee

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 307

Or you can invest in 44tabling.

11-14-2012 , 09:28 AM

#10218

MaskedManQc

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 620

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimStone

Exact, very good point!
Very often, during week-days and sometimes week-ends in the morning (eastern time) there are less than 10 tables running at midstakes. Plus, without even waiting for a fish or a whale, there are probably a couple of tables you don't want to play at.....

So, you will have to mix it in with 200 at least, or mix FR and 6 max or play Zoom.

11-14-2012 , 09:46 AM

#10219

MaskedManQc

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 620

Plus, I really don't know what will the the conditions of the games in 2014

11-14-2012 , 10:26 AM

#10220

Slugant

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 7,137

are we gonna skip a year because the 13 is bad luck?

11-14-2012 , 11:21 AM

#10221

MaskedManQc

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 620

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slugant

are we gonna skip a year because the 13 is bad luck?

This :

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deco354

I'll probably wait till 2014 when I'm at midstakes

11-14-2012 , 11:32 AM

#10222

Slugant

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 7,137

oh sorry my bad for not reading

and i didnt expect anyone to make poker plans for 2014 because its all so unpredictable imo

11-14-2012 , 11:40 AM

#10223

Glanza_Mike

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 4,098

What a silly little slug

11-14-2012 , 12:17 PM

#10224

Slugant

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 7,137

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glanza_Mike

What a silly little slug

would a silly slug 4bet/call 55 vs a tight MP opener?

11-14-2012 , 12:25 PM

#10225

Glanza_Mike

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 4,098

I think u lost me pal :/

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