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100NL: 4bet pot gone wrong 100NL: 4bet pot gone wrong

01-05-2013 , 04:18 PM
Villain is 24/17 3b 5% 1.4k hands fold to 4b 0%

Do I just call pre instead of 4b or any other suggestions?

$100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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SB: $184.06
BB: $370.66
UTG: $101.50
UTG+1: $97.50
UTG+2: $103.00
MP1: $83.87
MP2: $76.25
Hero (CO): $108.02
BTN: $102.24

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with Q K
5 folds, Hero raises to $3, BTN raises to $10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $23, BTN calls $13

Flop: ($47.50) 3 2 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $16.75, BTN calls $16.75

Turn: ($81.00) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $68.27, BTN calls $62.49 all in

River: ($205.98) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $205.98
Hero shows Q K
BTN shows 4 4
Hero wins $5.78
BTN wins $202.48
(Rake: $-2.28)
01-05-2013 , 04:40 PM
you both played it awfully
01-05-2013 , 04:42 PM
thank you
01-05-2013 , 04:44 PM
turn jam is spew against your average 100nl reg who won't fold JJ/QQ

take a note that he's ****ing awful and god seat him in future
01-05-2013 , 04:53 PM
dont listen to usernames, you played this hand fine. you need 10% fold equity against QQ and none against JJ-. Hands don't really play themselves much easier than this.
01-05-2013 , 05:06 PM
oh wow I've just seen you turned a flush draw, forget everything I said
01-05-2013 , 06:18 PM
Call pre. As played its fine. Make note that villain sucks
01-05-2013 , 07:24 PM
Me likey
01-05-2013 , 09:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lolusernames
turn jam is spew against your average 100nl reg who won't fold JJ/QQ

take a note that he's ****ing awful and god seat him in future
I don't think many 100nl regs, save the chinese, play JJ/QQ this way
01-06-2013 , 06:25 AM
I don`t get your oop 4bet to 23$ pre.
We know that he is going to call and we know that we have to play KQ oop in a pretty big pot.

I just call pre but maybe I am missing something?
01-06-2013 , 09:02 AM
I like the way you played this hand.
01-06-2013 , 11:44 AM
So we know he never folds to 4bets yet people are advocating 4betting here? just seems like a ****ty spot vs a lag tard in pos.

Although calling and folding is close, I tend to like a call just because, his range of 3betting will be a little wider on button and it achieves the same as the 4bet and we can let him barrell off everything when we hit. Its a less riskier play with more reward.

but me being a nit here says folding pre aint so bad neither but calling is slightly better, I really dont like 4betting vs villain If he had a fold button I would like it.
But all your really achiebeing here is just bloating the pot from what i can see

however as played with a 4bet ,I like your play
01-07-2013 , 11:46 AM
I play unl, so maybe I'm saying something really stupid here, but isn't the small donk bet otf exploitable? What do we do if we are raised / shoved on here? This sizing seems to telegraph we want to keep the possibility of getting away from the hand. Unless you size your bets similarly when we flop really strong in a 4-bet pot you can be exploited, no?
01-07-2013 , 01:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NL_Niels
I play unl, so maybe I'm saying something really stupid here, but isn't the small donk bet otf exploitable? What do we do if we are raised / shoved on here? This sizing seems to telegraph we want to keep the possibility of getting away from the hand. Unless you size your bets similarly when we flop really strong in a 4-bet pot you can be exploited, no?
I do size my bets the same with the nuts.
01-08-2013 , 05:51 PM
I fold PF w/o history. As played, I like your line. As said, villain plays are atrocious.
01-08-2013 , 05:58 PM
After preflop the hand pretty much plays itself. Calling or even folding tbh are both options pre. Also, villain is ****ing awful.

      
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