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10-20-2011 , 11:16 AM

#21201

NCSU07

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Vizer confirmed botter. I'm telling on youuuu

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10-20-2011 , 11:44 AM

#21202

nsoshnikov

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Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,986

AGCC are lying scumbags!

http://www.subjectpoker.com/2011/10/...1m-wrong-159m/

10-20-2011 , 12:20 PM

#21203

NCSU07

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Ima be pissed if the agcc faces no repercussions for all of this crap we've been finding out over the past few months.

10-20-2011 , 12:42 PM

#21204

TheRenaissance

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vizer02

Google pokerai or winholdem and check out their forums and your head will explode.

Meh, bots have been around for years, and it was only a matter of time before a winning 100bb bot would come around. The problem is that once one working bot has been made it can be replicated infinitely. It really is like fighting the borg, you are fighting a collective with a pooled database which is ever improving and adjusting. GG online pokers.

10-20-2011 , 12:59 PM

#21205

UCDLaCrosse

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,903

hey guys, one of my students needs to swap 270$ Pokerstars for 270$ Paypal. He will pay a small vig. He is DonMelchor on the forums. PM me please

10-20-2011 , 01:21 PM

#21206

waffe23

old hand

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRenaissance

captcha?

10-20-2011 , 01:30 PM

#21207

TheRenaissance

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you assume the pokersites are eager to get rid of the bots, and are capable of long term thinking.

10-20-2011 , 01:39 PM

#21208

gadolparah

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captcha has its own problems

10-20-2011 , 01:42 PM

#21209

waffe23

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,881

Ok, I give up. In all seriousness though, I think the "scaling" of bots is a problem worse than the existence of bots.

10-20-2011 , 01:54 PM

#21210

thejuggernaut

See my Staking thread

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRenaissance

you assume the pokersites are eager to get rid of the bots, and are capable of long term thinking.

If you look at ongame for example, its pretty obvious that they are.

The owner of the network owns BWIN, which makes far more money from sportsbetting and casino than poker. If you've watched an interview with him, he pretty much states they hate grinders. (see: the essence system)

No matter how much the bots rake, they are hurting the major sportsbooks bottom lines, and they are who have the most pull here. Something will be done imo.

10-20-2011 , 02:24 PM

#21211

TheRenaissance

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Talk is cheap. Let us see what they actually do. Some bots have been around since 2010. I have to say bot-building seems like an interesting challenge though. I'd rather try that than get back into grinding.

10-20-2011 , 05:15 PM

#21212

Cursefree

journeyman

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 268

I withdrew the last of my bankrolls a few weeks back and have gone self-employed. As I read about poker and ponder the changes within the last year, I grow increasingly grateful that I bailed out. I can imagine things will only get worse in the coming months and years until we reach a point where playing poker is no different to playing online casinos.

10-20-2011 , 05:33 PM

#21213

juan valdez

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former teammate. pretty amazing http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/bob_mckenzie/?id=378538

10-20-2011 , 06:15 PM

#21214

Jah Onion

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quick linecheck pls vs this 51/34 whale with 100% cbet of 54 hands:

Poker Stars $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
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UTG+1: $127.05
MP1: $103.35
Hero (MP2): $100.00
CO: $138.00
BTN: $101.75
SB: $40.00
BB: $97.00
UTG: $143.70

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP2 with A

UTG calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4, 4 folds, UTG raises to $10, Hero calls $6

Flop: ($21.50) 5

(2 players)
UTG bets $11.00, Hero calls $11

Turn: ($43.50) 2

(2 players)
UTG bets $19.00, Hero calls $19

River: ($81.50) T

(2 players)
UTG bets $52.00 Hero folds?

10-20-2011 , 06:20 PM

#21215

TheRenaissance

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lol? i never fold. the thought wouldnt enter my mind in fact.

10-20-2011 , 06:20 PM

#21216

gadolparah

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calls. hes a whale

10-20-2011 , 06:21 PM

#21217

gadolparah

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probably shove for value

10-20-2011 , 06:27 PM

#21218

TheRenaissance

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he reps one combo and he has maniac-like stats...

10-20-2011 , 06:31 PM

#21219

Jah Onion

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Quote:

he reps one combo and he has maniac-like stats...

AA/AQ/AT/A2/A5/QQ/TT/KJ ?

it's not like i'm considering folding b/c i put him on AA lol

10-20-2011 , 06:33 PM

#21220

bw07507

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Way closer to a shove than a fold. I prob just call though.

10-20-2011 , 06:35 PM

#21221

TheRenaissance

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jah Onion

AA/AQ/AT/A2/A5/QQ/TT/KJ ?

it's not like i'm considering folding b/c i put him on AA lol

fish rep AA by limp rr utg. it is what they do. oh and some regs. think about it, if you feel he can have KJ/A2 then he must also have a bajillion other hands in his range.

10-20-2011 , 06:36 PM

#21222

Jah Onion

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bw07507

Way closer to a shove than a fold. I prob just call though.

no levels in reg thread

10-20-2011 , 06:37 PM

#21223

MATEUSZEK

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GeckoMike

Nice!

Glad someone appreciates greatness!

10-20-2011 , 06:42 PM

#21224

Jah Onion

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@ ren sure he can have a bajilion things but i feel that even for an aggro fish this board is kinda scary to bluff at when there's all those scare cards out there