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03-23-2010 , 11:51 PM

#10026

AllTheCheese

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Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 11,898

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamnRinger

Go Go Gadget Red Line!!!

Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (MP1): $200.00
MP2: $537.55
CO: $236.70
BTN: $210.55
SB: $211.05
BB: $117.30
UTG: $337.45
UTG+1: $200.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is MP1 with A

2 folds, Hero raises to $6, 1 fold, CO calls $6, BTN calls $6, 1 fold, BB calls $4

Flop: ($25.00) 6

(4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $18, CO raises to $54, BTN folds, BB folds, Hero calls $36

Turn: ($133.00) K

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $133, Hero raises to $140 all in, CO folds

Final Pot: $399.00
Hero wins $396.00
(Rake: $3.00)

I mean I'm assuming it's not a misclick since multitablers don't really play hands this way (even before the fold). I'm tempted to put him on like 98, but donks are so unbelievably stupid, I wouldn't be surprised if he had 33 or a pair 4s that he folded for $7 because he got caught in his bluff.

03-24-2010 , 12:04 AM

#10027

DamnRinger

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Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,334

he is most certainly not a regular btw. I literally LOL'd when he snap folded, that's right he didn't request time. I'd say this is never a misclick given how bad villain was.

03-24-2010 , 12:05 AM

#10028

roflcopter88

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 304

When you're beat, you're beat.

03-24-2010 , 12:10 AM

#10029

d_smith77

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 14,652

Quote:

Originally Posted by AceofSpades

nah my 2+2 name isnt related at all. but i do run (ai ev hot) about 50 bi's over last 300k hands, which I think is due to stylistic play and shows how it really isn't a good measure of run good.

i bet its not

03-24-2010 , 12:11 AM

#10030

MATEUSZEK

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Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,598

Quote:

Originally Posted by AceofSpades

i used to jam my bluffs and call down/bet with my big hands so my opponent sucking out could happen when i had the best hand and instead I'd be folding/paying off and it wouldn't show up in ai ev.

03-24-2010 , 12:18 AM

#10031

porkroll

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,339

i think there are a few holes in his concept AIEV

03-24-2010 , 12:19 AM

#10032

LacieK

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,802

that whole stylistic thing really makes no sense btw. your winning money that you shouldn't be, thats the end of it.

50BI is a ****load as well, though form dec-april 08-09 i was +85BI at allinev. i lost it all and more over the next few months.

03-24-2010 , 12:27 AM

#10033

DamnRinger

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Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,334

wow... I haven't heard the argument for style playing into running bad/god since goldseraph stopped posting. A+ hilarity.

03-24-2010 , 12:29 AM

#10034

K.O.S.

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 20,798

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lesmurphy7's Wife

Tax/HEM question.

How can Les use filters in HEM to get the total amount of monies won and the total amount of monies lost?? Not the net of both, but each individual total?? Thx in advance!

Les, I'm pretty sure this has been proven to be a myth and/or an incorrect interpretation of the law. There is no "definite correct way" to do it, but you certainly won't be punished for NOT doing it this specific way. My CPA told me the best way to do it was by how much money I deposited into my bank during the calendar year (as opposed to actual table winnings, which aren't technically in your pocket until you cash out of the site). If you ask five different accountants, I'm sure you'll get five different responses on how to file, but you should be fine as long as you file honestly and aren't trying to cheat the system.

03-24-2010 , 12:38 AM

#10035

skelm

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Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,448

Quote:

Originally Posted by porkroll

i think there are a few holes in his concept AIEV

More then a few.

Consider how variance works and it's pretty easy to see that measuring your luck by aEV is more then inaccurate:

You could keep flopping sets when your opponent has air
You could not get KK, AA for 1348 hands
You could get set over set five times in a session

etc', etc'

aEV is only a measurement of how lucky you run in one particular scenario and given that there's no great way of measuring your true luck because of the many, many ways that variance can kick you down.

03-24-2010 , 12:41 AM

#10036

MATEUSZEK

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Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,598

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/96...thread-742982/

03-24-2010 , 12:42 AM

#10037

Element 45

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 549

i would pay big $$$ to learn the secrets of the ev line.

03-24-2010 , 12:43 AM

#10038

Element 45

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 549

Quote:

Originally Posted by MATEUSZEK

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/96...thread-742982/

my gut tells me that you don't get action on this

03-24-2010 , 12:45 AM

#10039

MATEUSZEK

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Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,598

Quote:

Originally Posted by Element 45

my gut tells me that you don't get action on this

I don't want like 20k in action... just small/friendly stuff. like I said, I'm no H2T or zachvac or yuckymonkey. Those guys are studs.

03-24-2010 , 12:46 AM

#10040

porkroll

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,339

Quote:

Originally Posted by MATEUSZEK

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/96...thread-742982/

i'm afraid all ur gonna get out this is getting flamed.

03-24-2010 , 12:46 AM

#10041

MATEUSZEK

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Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,598

I'm aware. It's okay. I'm a big boy.

Tough when a guy just tried to make 40k at NL200.

03-24-2010 , 12:47 AM

#10042

skelm

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Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,448

Quote:

Originally Posted by MATEUSZEK

I don't want like 20k in action... just small/friendly stuff. like I said, I'm no H2T or zachvac or yuckymonkey. Those guys are studs.

I'll put something down, not sure how much yet given that I just lost 2k betting hard2tel would make it (still a good bet at 5:1 imo). Will have a think about it and let you know later today.

03-24-2010 , 12:48 AM

#10043

vizer02

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Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,432

Wow the only way you would get action on that is if you regularly played like 10k hands a month and were horrible, but you once played like 25k hands in a DAY so I doubt that's gonna work for you

03-24-2010 , 12:49 AM

#10044

Jah Onion

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I'm with Element on this one. although your PTR graph might swing things in your favour. You've made ~3x as much in 1 million hands over a period of time where games haven't gotten easier. has to help

03-24-2010 , 12:50 AM

#10045

d_smith77

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dear god how do you play 25k hands in a day on ftp?? is that even possible?

03-24-2010 , 12:53 AM

#10046

vizer02

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Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,432

I don't know how many hands he really played, but it was a **** ton.

03-24-2010 , 12:54 AM

#10047

MATEUSZEK

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Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,598

What can I say, I said 5k and I'm not even confident I can make that TBH. I can post this months graph. It's redic.

Hmmmmmmmmmm

03-24-2010 , 12:54 AM

#10048

HappyPixel

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,586

Quote:

Originally Posted by MATEUSZEK

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/96...thread-742982/

you're probs better off finding other people who want to do something similar and starting a pool, much easier than finding action on a bet imo

03-24-2010 , 12:55 AM

#10049

K.O.S.

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 20,798

If you need motivation, you might be better off just entering one of those monthly hand pools.

03-24-2010 , 12:56 AM

#10050

skelm

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Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,448

Quote:

Originally Posted by HappyPixel

you're probs better off finding other people who want to do something similar and starting a pool, much easier than finding action on a bet imo

Best feedback so far imo

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