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03-19-2010 , 02:50 PM
Good luck to hard2tel, it'll be harder now, but i think that was a fair decision.

...the only thing that I can't understand is about "pl != nl". I mean, PLO and NLHE are differnet games and there are regs who plays exclusively one or another. LHE and NLHE are different and there are "exclusive" grinders at both games... But I don't know a single reg, who plays pot-limit cash exclusively. If there is a PL table I'm sure the only regs who will play are the NL ones... so why we consider PL an another game (at least online @FTP)?
03-19-2010 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ZuluWarrior
Good luck to hard2tel, it'll be harder now, but i think that was a fair decision.

...the only thing that I can't understand is about "pl != nl". I mean, PLO and NLHE are differnet games and there are regs who plays exclusively one or another. LHE and NLHE are different and there are "exclusive" grinders at both games... But I don't know a single reg, who plays pot-limit cash exclusively. If there is a PL table I'm sure the only regs who will play are the NL ones... so why we consider PL an another game (at least online @FTP)?
PL allows for more play post flop especially in shorter handed games.
03-19-2010 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Lusky
PL allows for more play post flop especially in shorter handed games.
maybe I'm not paying enough attention, but it doesn't feel like there's much overbetting going on in 200nl fr games
03-19-2010 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ZuluWarrior
maybe I'm not paying enough attention, but it doesn't feel like there's much overbetting going on in 200nl fr games
very true
3 bet pots cannot get bloated as easy as pot is max, same goes for isolating limpers, etc...
03-19-2010 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ZuluWarrior
maybe I'm not paying enough attention, but it doesn't feel like there's much overbetting going on in 200nl fr games
there is a ton preflop, both 3b pre, and raising limpers from the sb/bb tend to be >pot

while those aren't huge they do require you to change up your strategy a fair bit
03-19-2010 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam27X
it just shows that people will try to angleshoot whenever possible - so for those of you who are attempting to make prop bets for the future just be sure that you cover everything within the rules of the bet
yeah this. the spirit of the bet doesn't exist on internet I guess. that said I think the solution was very thoughtful/evenhanded. so props to the judges.
03-19-2010 , 04:17 PM
LOOOL, who in here is GnomeOnTilt!??
03-19-2010 , 04:36 PM
mdm13xxxx

Last edited by AceofSpades; 03-19-2010 at 04:52 PM.
03-19-2010 , 04:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZuluWarrior
Good luck to hard2tel, it'll be harder now, but i think that was a fair decision.

...the only thing that I can't understand is about "pl != nl". I mean, PLO and NLHE are differnet games and there are regs who plays exclusively one or another. LHE and NLHE are different and there are "exclusive" grinders at both games... But I don't know a single reg, who plays pot-limit cash exclusively. If there is a PL table I'm sure the only regs who will play are the NL ones... so why we consider PL an another game (at least online @FTP)?
xxxxrazyboyxxxxxx and xxxxxsleekestxxxxxx both seem to play almost exclusively PL. xxxxxrazyboyxxxx basically does nothing but start PL tables all day long (and hes a total nit and wont actually start playing till 4 or 5 ppl sit down). Several times i've sat with him and sat to his immediate right (cuz hes a nart), and he gets up and moves across the table from me then sits back out until more ppl join. its really hilarious. its like ok if you don't want position on me then don't take it you narttard
03-19-2010 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by **********
xxxxrazyboyxxxxxx and xxxxxsleekestxxxxxx both seem to play almost exclusively PL. xxxxxrazyboyxxxx basically does nothing but start PL tables all day long (and hes a total nit and wont actually start playing till 4 or 5 ppl sit down). Several times i've sat with him and sat to his immediate right (cuz hes a nart), and he gets up and moves across the table from me then sits back out until more ppl join. its really hilarious. its like ok if you don't want position on me then don't take it you narttard
well, i think its safe to say its better to get a fish on your right.
03-19-2010 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RRizGod
well, i think its safe to say its better to get a fish on your right.
yeah, I'd get annoyed if disco sat to my right too, and might move too

its not as annoying as when someone sits to your left, but **** them anyway, have some decency and sit across when you are the 2nd person
03-19-2010 , 05:03 PM
If you have sex in Denver, are you a member of the Mile High Club?
03-19-2010 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bottomset
yeah, I'd get annoyed if disco sat to my right too, and might move too

its not as annoying as when someone sits to your left, but **** them anyway, have some decency and sit across when you are the 2nd person
no ****. i dont see the point in that
03-19-2010 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bottomset
have some decency and sit across when you are the 2nd person
Agreed. I sat on Reaver#Micro's left today when a table was 4 handed, but thats because all three of the people were bunched together. (I had no idea if it was a table JUST starting, or if its broken)

Sometimes its like The Price is Right. You either gotta bet $1, or $1501.
03-19-2010 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bottomset
while those aren't huge they do require you to change up your strategy a fair bit
I have very little PL experience, so I'm asking honestly without any 2nd thought - do you really want to say that these games are so different that H2T should've specifically write "nl/pl" in prop bet rules?
03-19-2010 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by **********
xxxxrazyboyxxxxxx and xxxxxsleekestxxxxxx both seem to play almost exclusively PL.
how the hell can they put any amount of hands in then? right now there are 2 100pl and 1 200pl tables with like 30+ 200nl ones
03-19-2010 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by **********
lol at PL hands not counting. whats this world coming to. how can you not think to specify this beforehand? der de dar
Easy to say that now...and from the sidelines.
03-19-2010 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DukeMuscle
If you have sex in Denver, are you a member of the Mile High Club?
Not if you have to pay for it...so in your case no
03-19-2010 , 05:20 PM
typing with my nose right now as i had to chop off both hands to stop myself from commenting on h2tel's prop
03-19-2010 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ZuluWarrior
I have very little PL experience, so I'm asking honestly without any 2nd thought - do you really want to say that these games are so different that H2T should've specifically write "nl/pl" in prop bet rules?
They aren't different at all but I needed to specify so the rules wouldn't be up for interpretation. To us 200nl might mean 200 nl/pl but to a lot of the bettors etc it just means 200 no limit.
03-19-2010 , 05:25 PM
NL is NL. not NL + PL.

the ruling was fair, it just sucks that the problem came up at all.
03-19-2010 , 05:26 PM
xxfishsticksmanxx. This guy sits out my left while starting tables. I dont recognize him but see that i have like 1k hands on him and he plays 7/5 (no wonder i dont recognize him) hes on my left on 2 tables, which he did on purpose. I see him by himself on a table so i sit to his left. we play like couple hands and then people jump in and he gets up and sits to my left again. I cant take it anymore and I have to say something.

tonz: wow cheap move fishsticks
xxfishsticksmanxx:
tonz: thats bad ettiquette
tonz: dont do it again
xxfishsticksmanxx: i dont think its bad ettoquette
tonz: it is
xxfishsticksmanxx: how so?
xxxjeetjetjeetxx: blah big WHAT??? im gonna complain big CCOOOCCkkKk
tonz: u know why
tonz: dont act dumb
xxKampKoolxx: hey fish are u friends with tonz?
xxfishsticksmanxx: in any poker game you can change ur seat..live/online..so i really dont get it
xxfishsticksmanxx: ill sit where ever i want
xxfishsticksmanxx: its not first come first serve
xxKampKoolxx: i see in few tables your sitting right after bigkawik
tonz: ya cause hes a tool
xxKampKoolxx: perhaps collusion
tonz: i will happily leave if u want me too
xxKampKoolxx: prop in your best interest to
xxKampKoolxx: other wise im reporting it

At this point I was gonna leave but I was like "Im a frickin man! Nobody tells me what to do!". So I stayed cause I thought i would look guilty if I left.

tonz: u can report it
tonz: there is no collusion
tonz: i hate this guy
xxKampKoolxx: 2 fishy and odd he sits right after in multiple tables, even seen him switch spots to sit right after u
tonz: hes following me around
xxKampKoolxx: ok well doing it now
tonz: hes purposely doing it
xxgangsta_crunkxx: theory is you sit behind maniac players,
xxKampKoolxx: lol tonz isnt an iditot
xxKampKoolxx: or super wild
xxgangsta_crunkxx: my note on him is a reraise to $25 preflop with K2o
KampKool: hes roughly up about $xxxxx

**** YOU PTR

xxfishsticksmanxx: lol ignore him tonz..u souldnt respond to people like that..see our convo i was actually being serious

DONT EVEN TRY TO BE MY FRIEND NOW

xxKampKoolxx: every1 makes mistakes or gets carried away at times
tonz: thats not cool

was referring to the guy who said how much I won

xxgangsta_crunkxx: oh look they r both from the USA that proves it
tonz: I AM NOT FRIENDS WITH THIS DOUCHEBAG
xxKampKoolxx: whatever doesnt matter
xxgangsta_crunkxx: jk jk
xxKampKoolxx: i almost done reporting it now, i dc have fun, i just know tilt closees account rather quickly, figure itd be smart for u 2 leave then risk possible investigation

if I could punch this guy thru the computer for being an idiot azzhole I would have

xxfishsticksmanxx: there just going to laugh at you and respond..people play at the same tables all the time..thyere call regs
xxKampKoolxx: thats fine, they will still look into it, nsfark
xxKampKoolxx: in many
xxKampKoolxx: i know plenty of regs
xxKampKoolxx: just awkward direclty after him in table after table ect
xxKampKoolxx: and swithcing to sit right after him
xxKampKoolxx: losing 2 min of time no big deal

TL;DR
I REALLY HATE THESE 2 DOUCHEBAGS. At the time I didnt even really know what to say cause I was so mad and on tilt. i was even visualizing FT closing my account cause theyre so effin dumb which made me even angrier.
03-19-2010 , 05:26 PM
wall of text ITT
03-19-2010 , 05:28 PM
tldr but its probably your fault
03-19-2010 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TONZ
xxfishsticksmanxx. This guy sits out my left while starting tables. I dont recognize him but see that i have like 1k hands on him and he plays 7/5 (no wonder i dont recognize him) hes on my left on 2 tables, which he did on purpose. I see him by himself on a table so i sit to his left. we play like couple hands and then people jump in and he gets up and sits to my left again. I cant take it anymore and I have to say something.


You should be fistpumping to have this guy on your left.

      
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