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12-22-2010 , 08:00 AM

#2401

zachvac

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 13,775

So they make huge mistakes and you want to not be deep to discourage them from making those huge mistakes? Sounds about right.

12-22-2010 , 08:33 AM

#2402

King Fish

A Big Deal Around Here

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 15,065

Well they aren't mistakes when they hit, ldo.

12-22-2010 , 08:55 AM

#2403

Johnston

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 619

No hate for being deep, no hate for villain calling, no hate for getting it all in.
Only hate for ftp putting the one combination of cards on the flop that results in me going AI behind.

Hmm would prob stack off on 55x flop too.

12-22-2010 , 09:13 AM

#2404

xplore111

veteran

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,597

Quote:

Originally Posted by zachvac

So they make huge mistakes and you want to not be deep to discourage them from making those huge mistakes? Sounds about right.

Not sure what the huge mistake in calling a 3b pre with some random trash (83s) and binking an Q 8 3 rain flop and taking a large portion of our stack every time.

That is unless you just b/f in 3b pots when deep without any anguish.

12-22-2010 , 09:23 AM

#2405

psl86

adept

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,078

Quote:

Originally Posted by xplore111

Not sure what the huge mistake in calling a 3b pre with some random trash (83s) and binking an Q 8 3 rain flop and taking a large portion of our stack every time.

That is unless you just b/f in 3b pots when deep without any anguish.

A lot of the time they just hit a draw, and you take their stack instead..you cant seriously want them to fold their trash?

Ps:first post in epic thread coming to an end..

12-22-2010 , 09:31 AM

#2406

hurt

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 7,142

Quote:

Originally Posted by xplore111

I hate being deep for this very reason, you get called by like any sooted hand if you're 150bbs deep and people just slam flops you're sure they could never hit.

wtf no

12-22-2010 , 09:55 AM

#2407

Gary_Neville

veteran

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,959

Quote:

Originally Posted by xplore111

Not sure what the huge mistake in calling a 3b pre with some random trash (83s) and binking an Q 8 3 rain flop and taking a large portion of our stack every time.

That is unless you just b/f in 3b pots when deep without any anguish.

Because people flop two pair all the time when they call a 3b yeah and because when deep you always get raised when you cbet into a 3bet pot yeah?

12-22-2010 , 09:56 AM

#2408

jij452

adept

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,169

Quote:

Originally Posted by xplore111

Not sure what the huge mistake in calling a 3b pre with some random trash (83s) and binking an Q 8 3 rain flop and taking a large portion of our stack every time.

That is unless you just b/f in 3b pots when deep without any anguish.

Of course that's not a mistake to call 3bets w sooted whatever !?! ; raisonning behind this is that the 3bettor has many high cards in the range of his hands, therefore there are more little cards left in the decks, so you'll hit the flop more often than him with your little cards, .... and the more deep you play in that spot, the more deep they stack you (if there are also deep). Moreover, if they're out of the position, they will stack you faster cause they can check-raise

12-22-2010 , 10:03 AM

#2409

jij452

adept

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,169

And also, when they take the flop with say 83s, when they hit the 8 , you will never put them on the 3, so they can easily trap.

(they of course trap you with a flush draw aswell).... I have a lots of examples where I trap that I'll post to help you, explorer

12-22-2010 , 10:07 AM

#2410

YippeeKaeYay

adept

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 772

Trapping with the flush draw is such an underused play.

12-22-2010 , 10:14 AM

#2411

blankoblanco

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,395

the best street to trap with the flush draw is on river because the other guy will think "he can not be drawing anymore because there are no more cards left to come!" but he would be a damned fool. because that my friends is when you spring your trap

12-22-2010 , 10:20 AM

#2412

jij452

adept

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,169

Quote:

Originally Posted by blankoblanco

the best street to trap with the flush draw is on river because the other guy will think "he can not be drawing anymore because there are no more cards left to come!" but he would be a damned fool. because that my friends is when you spring your trap

not to mention you're more likely to have a hand by the river (cause now you can complete your cards with more cards) !

12-22-2010 , 10:39 AM

#2413

JLBorloo

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 5,222

Quote:

Originally Posted by xplore111

Not sure what the huge mistake in calling a 3b pre with some random trash (83s) and binking an Q 8 3 rain flop and taking a large portion of our stack every time.

That is unless you just b/f in 3b pots when deep without any anguish.

god, I swear if I did not know your posting history I'd be sure this is a level

12-22-2010 , 10:51 AM

#2414

xplore111

veteran

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,597

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLBorloo

god, I swear if I did not know your posting history I'd be sure this is a level

what posting history?

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

UTG: $148.15
UTG+1: $239.10
UTG+2: $40.00
MP1: $209.15
MP2: $193.90
CO: $164.20
BTN: $151.40
SB: $150.95
Hero (BB): $108.25

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with K

K

UTG raises to $2, 7 folds, Hero raises to $8, UTG calls $6

Flop: ($16.50) 7

9

T

(2 players)
Hero bets $12, UTG raises to $30, Hero raises to $100.25 all in, UTG calls $70.25

Turn: ($217.00) 2

(2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($217.00) Q

(2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $217.00
UTG shows 8

J

(a straight, Queen high)
Hero shows K

K

(a pair of Kings)
UTG wins $214.00
(Rake: $3.00)

12-22-2010 , 11:12 AM

#2415

RAW_FORCE

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 5,321

i prefer to check/post gaping anus on the flop but meh

12-22-2010 , 11:19 AM

#2416

xplore111

veteran

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,597

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAW_FORCE

i prefer to check/post gaping anus on the flop but meh

That line never works for me

12-22-2010 , 01:14 PM

#2417

porkroll

veteran

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,339

tried to make a make a pretty picture out of my most recent Rush results. it was therapeutic.

i don't draw horses very well.

12-22-2010 , 01:17 PM

#2418

King Fish

A Big Deal Around Here

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 15,065

^^^Sick "I am a winning player over 69,724 hands" brag.

12-22-2010 , 01:20 PM

#2419

jij452

adept

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,169

Here's a classic example of traping a fish with a face up hand with little cards that will hit more often, and thus grab a little bit of EV. Guy sucked out tho :-(

Full Tilt Poker $200.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

MP2: $200.00
CO: $200.00
BTN: $187.25
Hero (SB): $210.45
BB: $250.80
UTG: $268.80
UTG+1: $244.50
UTG+2: $396.65
MP1: $175.25

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is SB with 6

4

5 folds, CO raises to $7, BTN raises to $21, Hero raises to $42, 2 folds, BTN calls $21

Flop: ($93.00) 3

5

7

(2 players)
Hero bets $27.00, BTN calls $27

Turn: ($147.00) 3

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $118.25, Hero folds

Last edited by jij452; 12-22-2010 at 01:26 PM.

12-22-2010 , 01:25 PM

#2420

timchuk

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,523

LMAO how about the graphs when players take out every losing session and then brag to their friends.

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Fish

^^^Sick "I am a winning player over 69,724 hands" brag.

12-22-2010 , 01:29 PM

#2421

porkroll

veteran

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,339

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Fish

^^^Sick "I am a winning player over 69,724 hands" brag.

ya...and don't forget about all the fat stacks of cash that come with rakeback. i'm gonna be rich.

12-22-2010 , 01:48 PM

#2422

hystereo

enthusiast

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 61

jij, what are you doing in that hand?

12-22-2010 , 02:19 PM

#2423

DamnRinger

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,334

Quote:

Originally Posted by jij452

Here's a classic example of traping a fish with a face up hand with little cards that will hit more often, and thus grab a little bit of EV. Guy sucked out tho :-(

Full Tilt Poker $200.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

MP2: $200.00
CO: $200.00
BTN: $187.25
Hero (SB): $210.45
BB: $250.80
UTG: $268.80
UTG+1: $244.50
UTG+2: $396.65
MP1: $175.25

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is SB with 6

4

5 folds, CO raises to $7, BTN raises to $21, Hero raises to $42, 2 folds, BTN calls $21

Flop: ($93.00) 3

5

7

(2 players)
Hero bets $27.00, BTN calls $27

Turn: ($147.00) 3

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $118.25, Hero folds

12-22-2010 , 02:20 PM

#2424

King Fish

A Big Deal Around Here

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 15,065

Quote:

Originally Posted by hystereo

jij, what are you doing in that hand?

Getting ev, ldo.

12-22-2010 , 02:39 PM

#2425

rockrollins

veteran

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,686

Quote:

Originally Posted by jij452

Here's a classic example of traping a fish with a face up hand with little cards that will hit more often, and thus grab a little bit of EV. Guy sucked out tho :-(

Full Tilt Poker $200.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

MP2: $200.00
CO: $200.00
BTN: $187.25
Hero (SB): $210.45
BB: $250.80
UTG: $268.80
UTG+1: $244.50
UTG+2: $396.65
MP1: $175.25

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is SB with 6

4

5 folds, CO raises to $7, BTN raises to $21, Hero raises to $42, 2 folds, BTN calls $21

Flop: ($93.00) 3

5

7

(2 players)
Hero bets $27.00, BTN calls $27

Turn: ($147.00) 3

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $118.25, Hero folds

Hand of the Year. HOF candidate. Deadly serious.

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