Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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MP1: $225.05
MP2: $195.00
Hero (CO): $279.95
BTN: $200.00
SB: $70.00
BB: $214.35
UTG: $106.80
UTG+1: $398.50
UTG+2: $200.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is CO with A A
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $8, 3 folds, Hero raises to $24, 3 folds, UTG+1 requests TIME, UTG+1 raises to $63, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls $39

Flop: ($129.00) 6 5 2 (2 players)
UTG+1 requests TIME, UTG+1 bets $58, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls $58

Turn: ($245.00) 7 (2 players)
UTG+1 requests TIME, UTG+1 checks, Hero requests TIME, Hero bets $28, UTG+1 requests TIME, UTG+1 calls $28

River: ($301.00) T (2 players)
UTG+1 requests TIME, UTG+1 checks, Hero requests TIME, Hero bets $130.95 all in

Villain is 24/20 over 229 hands, with a 50% fold to 3b (means nothing). He previously played $2/4-25/50 and crushed but lately seems to have been playing $1/2 a lot despite no obvious ptr downswing. He knows I am a hunl reg so may view me as aggro despite me running at 15/13. I figure with this and the fact that we're slightly deep he may 4b bluff here but may not 4b QQ and AK, but perhaps I'm ridiculously out of touch with fr and I'm always supposed to shove here?

On the flop do I just get it in? Really have no idea what the best line for value is. Obviously I have the nuts but am wondering if I should've fastplayed at some point.

call flop

check turn

i think

I don't know about the rest of the hand, but the turn was played TO PERFECTION.

I think the turn is way too obvious that you're inducing. If he plays higher stakes and is good I seriously doubt he'll be spazzing vs that turn bet. check turn is good as well as betting the turn a small amount that's less obvious. your turn bet + river shove would be real sexy as a bluff however.

I think anything but shoving pre is pretty awful

Yea, who 4bet bluffs in EP?

Ok, can you help me out here? I just felt like his value range was KK+ as we're slightly deep and given positions I should give a 4b a ton of credit, but if he had any bluff range there would be way more combos of it simply because of how hard it is to balance (6 combos of KK and 1 combo of AA only so...), but he probably has no bluff range? Or do we think because he's 24/20 he will have a much wider value range here despite positions and the fact that we're just slightly deep?

this seems best

what the hell are you doing on the turn

raise flop imo, other overpairs with a club are likely to get it in thinking they have a redraw and those who don't have a club will think you have something like AcKx and are making a move.

Can anyone give me an estimate of his preflop 4b range, and his turn check ranges? I feel like all this talk is useless without them.

+1

such a big part of his range is going to shove the flop over a small flop raise...including any big pair he was raising for value pre, and any value or bluff 4bet hand containing a club J,Q,K and overcards.

bluff 4bet ranges aren't incredibly standard. Like you know the 2p2 standard is something like K2s-K7s or stuff like QTo,KJo,QJo,JTo,Axo. But a lot of people have a much wider range.

As per the turn, I don't think he's ever c/c the turn w/o a club tbh.

we aren't deep enough to raise..just call or shove.

and shoving flop would mean we think he has a lot of lower pair combos which doesn't make sense given our flat pre

and his stuff with high clubs is gonna be getting it in on later streets anyway

blah, your definitely right. I'm ******ed.... I would def prefer a small flop raise if this were only a 3bet pot.

not shoving pre is dumb because you lose soooooo much value from his value range by flatting, in a spot where he's most likely value-heavy as you have no real history/dynamic, and you say he's a decent player, so it's not like when you flat his 4b he's gonna start spewing with whatever bluffs he may have

ok i wrote a long post defending the 4bet call but then reread the OP and saw villain was crushing higher limits and he views hero as aggro. yea shove pre his value range is wider than you think

Turn is soooooooooooooo bad.

Better to check than do that.

Can someone explain to me why the flop is anything other than a super standard shove considering the pot and stack sizes? The villain is getting over 2 to 1 on a call and I see very few players able to get away from anything in spots like this.

get your money in pre or on the flop. you could definitely get it in with the naked A or K of clubs.

Not sure how that relates to the actual hand as villain 4bet from UTG