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06-27-2010 , 08:52 PM

notontilt09

chopping down Ivey

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 5,764

villain is TomasQ, note we're really deep

Poker Stars $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em $0.40 Ante - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP2: $200.30
CO: $527.85
BTN: $321.75
SB: $310.00
Hero (BB): $515.45
UTG: $570.70
UTG+1: $487.55
UTG+2: $251.40
MP1: $803.80

Pre Flop: ($6.60) Hero is BB with J

1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2, 1 fold, MP1 calls $2, 1 fold, CO raises to $12, 2 folds, Hero calls $10, UTG+1 calls $10, MP1 calls $10

Flop: ($52.60) 3

(4 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, CO checks

Turn: ($52.60) 8

(4 players)
Hero bets $33.90, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $33.90, CO calls $33.90

River: ($154.30) Q

(3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $144, CO folds, Hero?

I could see doing all 3 things now

06-27-2010 , 08:56 PM

13_Xerxes

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,968

So, you are not beaten like ever, thanks to PF action.

CMR, try to rep the misclick, and be called by 33, J8s, Q8s or Ahx.

06-27-2010 , 09:00 PM

notontilt09

chopping down Ivey

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 5,764

he full potted river fwiw

06-27-2010 , 09:03 PM

13_Xerxes

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,968

And ? We have a FH, he is a regz, and never ever have 88, T9hh and QQ...

OK, you can fold if he ships over the CMR

06-27-2010 , 09:07 PM

Shaffer

veteran

Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,556

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13_Xerxes

So, you are not beaten like ever, thanks to PF action.

9h Th. Maybe I'm seeing MUB but I could totally see villain not wanting to raise that particular turn with a middling flush, and then potting the river once he hits his jesus card.

I'm not folding top FH on a 4-suit board, basically, ever, but the full PSB on the river makes me puke in my mouth a little. I guess I'm a supernit but I'm totally 100% okay with just calling here.

06-27-2010 , 09:12 PM

hard2tel

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 15,750

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13_Xerxes

And ? We have a FH, he is a regz, and never ever have 88, T9hh and QQ...

OK, you can fold if he ships over the CMR

Why can't he have those hands?

But I don't see why he can't have Ah or even Kh either...and definitely 33. But I'm not sure if he's ever calling a shove with those hands. I definitely shove in the moment but calling might be better.

06-27-2010 , 09:13 PM

frosty012

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 396

easy call, no chance tommy boy's callin with worse if you ship anyways!

06-27-2010 , 09:16 PM

xxMephistoxx

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 289

who is CO ?
any reason why you didn't donk flop.

as played i call and don't expect to win that often

06-27-2010 , 09:17 PM

hard2tel

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Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 15,750

Wait he probably has some J8s/Q8s in his range..and is he really calling turn with QQ no heart? shove it imo

06-27-2010 , 09:19 PM

#10

13_Xerxes

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,968

If you think he got 9Thh, you should just fold the river...

And I am sure if you posted, obvious he got 9Thh, and he plays it horrific, and that's a brag post : OMG I am so good, I have only lost 190.30$ with the nut FH in a situation which happened 1 times in 1 million hand.

TomasQ : 45$ or 333$, please ! They will never fold a FH, even if you overbet ship the riva...

06-27-2010 , 09:19 PM

#11

hoplo

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,265

why not donk flops? were you planning on c/r?

Obviously you were set hunting with JJ here with that many players in a 3b pot i'm sure someone is holding over-cards or Ah.

i would pot/pot/shove in multiway but i'm no pro.

06-27-2010 , 09:21 PM

#12

Shaffer

veteran

Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,556

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13_Xerxes

Thinking 9h Th is the only hand he could have that he calls/ships a raise with != "Thinking he has 9h Th".

06-27-2010 , 09:21 PM

#13

hard2tel

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Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 15,750

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13_Xerxes

If you think he got 9Thh, you should just fold the river...

And I am sure if you posted, obvious he got 9Thh, and he plays it horrific, and that's a brag post : OMG I am so good, I have only lost 190.30$ with the nut FH in a sitation which happened 1 times in 1 million hand.

TomasQ : 45$ or 333$, please ! They will never fold, even if you overbet ship the riva...

he played it horrific?

06-27-2010 , 09:22 PM

#14

hurt

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Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 7,142

why'd you check the river

can't imagine that he doesn't iso UTG+1 with 9Ts btw... he's deep too

06-27-2010 , 09:23 PM

#15

13_Xerxes

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,968

Quote:

Originally Posted by hard2tel

he played it horrific?

Limp PF, check the flop, (call turn is good imo), and full pot river, OMFG...

I understand better his huge winrate...

06-27-2010 , 09:30 PM

#16

hurt

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Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 7,142

pot river isn't that bad imo, Jx can't call anyway, and better than Jx is hard to fold for a lot of people. agree about preflop/flop.

06-27-2010 , 09:32 PM

#17

13_Xerxes

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,968

Better than Jx is 8x or 2hx. I don't think it is hard to fold !

06-27-2010 , 09:37 PM

#18

notontilt09

chopping down Ivey

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 5,764

Quote:

Originally Posted by hurt

why'd you check the river

can't imagine that he doesn't iso UTG+1 with 9Ts btw... he's deep too

well the plan was c/r, but his betsize threw that plan out the window...

06-27-2010 , 09:37 PM

#19

hurt

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Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 7,142

misread board a little bit, 2p2 should implement 4 color deck imo

06-27-2010 , 09:39 PM

#20

Shaffer

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Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,556

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13_Xerxes

Better than Jx is 8x or 2hx. I don't think it is hard to fold !

Expecting everyone to play every hand as you think is optimal versus you is -EV.

06-27-2010 , 10:04 PM

#21

krolewicz

adept

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,070

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxMephistoxx

who is CO ?
any reason why you didn't donk flop.

as played i call and don't expect to win that often

Seat 2: 24kgilded ( $527.85 USD ) <- CO

sick spot ldo

06-27-2010 , 10:09 PM

#22

notontilt09

chopping down Ivey

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 5,764

Quote:

Originally Posted by krolewicz

Seat 2: 24kgilded ( $527.85 USD ) <- CO

sick spot ldo

you didn't fold Ah did you? it seemed to be your most likely hand at the time, but if i remember you snap folded

06-27-2010 , 10:12 PM

#23

coordi

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 24,049

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxMephistoxx

who is CO ?
any reason why you didn't donk flop.

as played i call and don't expect to win that often

i agree you should donk here

that way you can play a small pot oop on a drawy board!

06-27-2010 , 10:17 PM

#24

krolewicz

adept

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,070

As8s ; not really happy with the turn call but w/e its hard to make trips and i never fold while on quadsdraw

It was a bit puzzled when the table pops up again, ... well no spoiling atm!

06-28-2010 , 12:30 AM

#25

springsteen87

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 8,998

Donk this 100% of the time

i don't think he's calling 33 if you raise, sick to just call this but i don't see what worse hand calls a raise

I'm unfamiliar with TomasQ, is he just some nit?

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