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200nl, AA turn decision board is gettin ugly

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12-24-2007 , 07:07 PM

-VINNY-

adept

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 955

Stats on villain are 22/4/.50 not a great turn but also a great bluffing card for him

on the turn you do what and why?

anyone ever c/r ai here? Is that a long term leak on this type of board?

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG: $402.55
UTG+1: $186.10
Hero (MP1): $233.60
MP2: $194
CO: $77.90
BTN: $40.80
SB: $1,060.40
BB: $110.65

Pre-Flop: A

dealt to Hero (MP1)
2 folds, Hero raises to $7, MP2 calls $7, 4 folds

Flop: ($17) 8

(2 Players)
Hero bets $14, MP2 calls $14

Turn: ($45) J

(2 Players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $30

Results: $45 Pot ($45 Rake)

12-25-2007 , 03:53 AM

ranka

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 7,496

I would bet/fold turn. All jacks probably raise, draws call and other hands fold. Check-calling is bad because you give him chance to complete his draw with free or he can dictate draw prize. If he is bluffing or he don't complete his draw on the river then probably you can't get any penny from him and obviously he shooting another barrel with jack.

12-25-2007 , 08:50 AM

Zuccala

newbie

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 16

Bet turn. That way of he calls/raises you are done. As played you let him steal the pot from you if he was floating. If I am in positon and call that flop, I am betting that turn 100% of the time u check.

12-25-2007 , 04:18 PM

-VINNY-

adept

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 955

bet turn, he calls and river comes a blank...then we c/c or c/f? his aggression being so low, I feel like c/f on the turn may be a good line in the long run against this type of player. Against someone aggressive as hell then obviously this would not be an optimal line.

Whatcha all think?

12-25-2007 , 10:25 PM

Naslund

banned

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 122

I think you need to bet the turn and fold to a raise. If he just calls I think he is more likely to have a draw then anything else, and if the river comes a blank I would either bet/fold to a raise or check/call.

12-26-2007 , 02:05 PM

CybrPunk

veteran

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,330

I think spots like this are tough against players that never raise with their good hands. If he calls a turn bet I would probably just assume he has a Jack and shut down on the river unless I hit one of my 2 outs. Bet/fold isn't an option because this genius is never raising your bets so I would say lead the turn for about 2/3 pot and decide what to do based on his action and the river card. Check/folding here seems too weak for me.

12-26-2007 , 02:08 PM

Stonewalled

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,791

Bet/fold the turn. Against this passive player, he's most likely going to let you know there if he has a monster.

12-26-2007 , 02:09 PM

Flu

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 198

C/R ai against a villain this passive is out of the question, imo. Against an aggressive player it would be a good(ish) line.

12-26-2007 , 02:09 PM

Stonewalled

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,791

Quote:

Originally Posted by VINNY VT

bet turn, he calls and river comes a blank...then we c/c or c/f?

Good spot for a blocking bet on the river of about 1/3 the pot IMO.

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