200 and 100NL.

How many buyins is considered standard?

LAG 30+
TAG 20+

I see this frequently, and it doesn't make sense.

If you plan to 24 table with full stacks, likely to go broke with 30 buyins.

I would say about 60 is needed if you plan to 24 table and have no access to additional bankroll. If you can redeposit easily, then maybe you can get away with 40-45.

I 4 table.

and I agree 20-30 seems way too light, even 4 tabling. IDK i'm new to cash though.

this hasn't been covered before...

20 broke
40 hobby
60 serious hobby
100 pro

I play MAG (18/14) on 8 tables with a solid WR over a good sample. I am currently on a -15bi downswing, so that should give you some indication of how ****ty a 20 buy-in roll is.

50

yup this is about right

Number of tables really doesn't make a difference unless you're prone to tilting and basically Ren nailed it.

really? surely requirement for no. of buyins is gonna be different for 4-tabling and 24-tabling. your winrates gonna be lower 24tabling and so variance is gonna be higher

the only thing thats different is that if u have a 15 buyin downswing with a 20 bi roll you can't 16 table anymore. the variance isn't higher, you just get through it quicker.

I've never had more than than a 3 BI downswing over 100k hands, so for me 20BI is more than enough...

But I dunno, maybe I've just gotten lucky

I'd say 40. I twenty four table though.

this is insane

except for making sure you have enough money to be playing that many tables

I frequently find I need way over 30 buyins to be active at 24 tables at one time

It all depends on whether you are willing/able to move down or not. If you're a pro that cannot afford to play below a certain level, then you need a bigger bankroll. If poker is just a side income for you, then you can take more risks and still not go broke if you always move down and grind it back up. Winrate obviously is very important as well - if you're just barely over breakeven you are going to have huge downswings.

In general though, bankroll grows at a much faster rate than skill. Unless you are withdrawing huge chunks of your bankroll all the time, I really don't see how anyone could actually be able to beat a stake, yet still be underrolled for it.

Personally I've always been massively overrolled for the stakes I play. In theory, that has cost me money, but if I don't feel confident that I can beat a stake then it doesn't matter how many buyins I have for it.

ya you have

Of course you've gotten lucky. But you can obv get by with less buyins than the normal person if you want. But then again I don't understand why people would cut it so close like that. I have to have 100+ buyins online just for my peace of mind and i'm a nit at the tables.

You realize variance is independent of winrate right? But you're right that if your winrate goes down ror is higher. Also missing from this thread is the fact that a rakeback pro has to have a ton more buy-ins than someone beating the game at 5 ptbb/100 for the same ror.

And yeah MT2R you're right I have my BR spread across a few sites and keep as little online as I can and unless you rathole when you double up if you're 24-tabling you probably need 30-35 buy-ins just to avoid running out of money to top up even during winning sessions.

lol, MAG nice work

My new policy is to beat the games for 4BB/100 and to keep my roll small for my level. With a roll spread around sites its fine to run a little light if you do not want to play 24+ tables. I have around 11BI current and feel very happy working with that amount.

FWIW i like to keep my rolls spread to avoid sites stiffing me in the arse as seems to be the rage these days.

I was thinking "Fairly Aggressive," but that didn't quite work

Once I lose 2 buy ins, I take a break and maybe move down a level, and I'm not prone to tilt. 20 buy ins is more than enough for me.

looooooooool, im sorry i dont mean to be laughing at you, whatever makes you happy, but when i think about the swings i can have in a session this is just very very lol.

F.AG or SLAG, take your pick. MAGs dont cut it around here.