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07-04-2008 , 11:53 PM
No hand history so from memory

Effective stacks $200, no reads on villain

Hero is in mp1 w/ QQ

UTG1 raises to $7, Hero raises to $25, UTG1 calls
Pot: $53
Flop: 873
UTG1 checks, Hero bets $30, UTG1 calls, Pot = $113
Turn: 3
UTG1 checks, Hero bets $60, UTG1 calls, Pot = $233
River: 8
UTG1 checks, Hero?

Thoughts anywhere appreciated, but especially - do people value bet this river or check down?

Last edited by jawhoo; 07-05-2008 at 12:13 AM. Reason: no reads on villain
bodog 200 nl - QQ, value bet overpair on river?
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07-05-2008 , 12:16 AM
No stats?

Your image counts a lot in this spot too.

Against tights good regs and nits I'd check (we are ahead their hand, but no value in a push).

Against looses and donkeys I'd push.

Without stats I think there are more donkeys at NL200 than good players and push.
07-05-2008 , 12:18 AM
Pretty easy shove given the action.

I'd be betting more on the flop so I could shove turn.
07-05-2008 , 01:43 AM
shove it in
07-05-2008 , 04:20 PM
With a 1/3 pot bet left in your stack, it wouldn't seem to matter a lot, but remember that you need to be >50% equity to profitably push the rest. I'd probably check because you're ahead of a limited range: probably Js, Ts, and 9s (if they'd even call preflop) and flush draws (which there's no value in betting against).

On the other hand, with the preflop rr you've created a SPR of 3.5/1, which is one you should be willing to get all in with, given no overcards. The rather small sizes of your postflop bets do confuse me. It would be a more obvious all in on the turn if you had bet bigger on the flop.

Edit: what do the people recommending shoves think he has?
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