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03-03-2011 , 09:43 AM

dizeerascal

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 246

villain 29/14/1.4 3bet 2.6 % raise cbet 7% 3.6k hands

SB: $101.90
BB: $130.15
UTG: $118.35
UTG+1: $250.00
MP1: $287.60
Hero (MP2): $106.20
CO: $253.60
BTN: $316.60

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP2 with A

3 folds, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, BTN calls $3, 2 folds

Flop: ($7.50) 3

(2 players)
Hero bets $6.90, BTN raises to $13.80, Hero ?

How best to proceed ?

03-03-2011 , 10:11 AM

Curtlow

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,383

Call. C/c turn. c/evaluate river, probably folding unimproved if he bombs every street.

03-03-2011 , 10:52 AM

Ijizz

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,651

we block some cool draws so I would not get it in on the river.

poster above suggestion is fine, however I would have a hard time folding certain boards even unimproved.

03-03-2011 , 11:42 AM

Mike Kelley

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,670

He's not bluffing and you are not getting stacks in if 5 falls. Fold the flop

03-03-2011 , 11:55 AM

dizeerascal

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 246

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Kelley

He's not bluffing and you are not getting stacks in if 5 falls. Fold the flop

Do you not think he could be doing this with hands like 77 - JJ to "find out where he's out" seeing as he is not a great player

03-03-2011 , 12:19 PM

Mike Kelley

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,670

He raises CB's 7% of the time. You flop a set around 11%. If you have HUD info over thousands of hands you might as well use it.

Min reraises are usually either the absolute nuts or they are complete air. They are almost never hands that have showdown value.

03-03-2011 , 12:25 PM

dizeerascal

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 246

Fair point

03-03-2011 , 01:59 PM

xplore111

veteran

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,597

I always think this could be like TT/JJ but you'd be amazed how often they pot control turn after the min raise anyway.

03-03-2011 , 02:36 PM

rockrollins

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Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,686

Quote:

Originally Posted by xplore111

I always think this could be like TT/JJ but you'd be amazed how often they pot control turn after the min raise anyway.

I'm utterly convinced that nobody ever checks back a turn anymore in this spot. Like, never ever never ever never. Everytime I peel here I end up feeling like an ATM.

03-03-2011 , 02:42 PM

#10

Banis

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 32

Why have nobody thought about raise it and call shove?

03-03-2011 , 02:53 PM

#11

Curtlow

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,383

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banis

Why have nobody thought about raise it and call shove?

Because that's burning money.

03-03-2011 , 03:56 PM

#12

Banis

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curtlow

Because that's burning money.

That kind of player never stack off here 66+ or 54s?

03-03-2011 , 03:58 PM

#13

negipai98

veteran

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,758

5x, 55-JJ, KcQc and other club draws must naturally be out of his range. Sure, sets are possible as is 5,6, but c'mon, are we really advocating folding the flop here? Caveat...I have not been playing much recently, but are games really that nitty now where folding flop or ch/folding blank turns is optimal?

03-03-2011 , 06:24 PM

#14

Curtlow

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,383

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banis

That kind of player never stack off here 66+ or 54s?

Not in my experience.

03-05-2011 , 05:25 PM

#15

OMGjackingo

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 150

That is an easy fold to turn raise. His fold to 3bet is so high. I would probably check/call turn

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