Villain is 22-17 this session, but I have him as 15-12 this month at 2-4.
He probably views me as good. Thoughts?



Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 7 Players
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UTG+1: $360.70
MP: $430
CO: $317
BTN: $461.25
SB: $618.80
Hero (BB): $400
UTG: $132.60

Pre-Flop: 5 5 dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $4, MP raises to $20, 3 folds, Hero calls $16, UTG+1 folds

Flop: ($46) 4 3 8 (2 Players)
Hero bets $12, MP calls $12

Turn: ($70) 2 (2 Players)
Hero bets $44, MP calls $44

River: ($158) 8 (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP bets $112, Hero raises to $324 and is All-In
$212 for him to call

do not want

yeah 3 word answers, without any analysis aren't exactly what i am looking for =). explain please. ty ty. <3

explain flop and turn please

I imagine you have a pretty crazy image with this player as I play a similar style to this villain and I know you like to get crazy with me from time to time. If for some reason you have a tight/straightforward image than this may work but against someone who is observant and against whom youve mixed it up a great deal I dont think you'll be able to fold out most overpairs (which is obviously his most likely holding).

The pot will be 380ish and it will be 212$ for him to call so he'll have just under 2 to 1 odds and I dont think youll be able to get him off his hand often enough for this to be a +EV move.

You're pretty much never leading flop and turn with 8x (or are you?) so you have to make him buy the fact that you have 65 or hit a set on the flop which is probably not going to happen.

i am capable of leading flatted big pairs, sets, stright draws, air here as I assume everyone is. flop bet is grossly small, but with him flatting how much credit do we give him for a big overpair, which is what I assume is is repping. Don't think he isolates an EP limp with A8ss from MP.

and yes I suppose I do get crazy from time to time, and as a result maybe some of you don't give me credit. I'm okay with that tho. =)

I don't think he's folding anything he value bets (probably JJ+). He'll be getting pretty good odds to call, and if you have any kind of aggressive image at all you'll get a lot of "fvck you calls."

turn is a followthrough from flop.

in villains shoes, i find that calling river cr is a losing proposition. i don't think many people are all that capable at 2-4 of river cr bluffing. i don't see it too often. i sometimes see a bluff shove over a value bet however.

I can't say that I play this high, but isn't villain knocking behind with OP's on the river? After flatting the flop and turn donk bets, I can't imagine he's b/fing often enough to make the c/rai +EV. What part of his range do you think he's b/fing river with?

I agree that river CR bluffs are infrequent at 2/4 but if youve played with this villain enough he'll realize that you are one of the players capable of pulling one.

i think he should fold 99-JJ.

moreso I can't think of many hands he v bets given he flatted $12 on the flop.

I don't like it really, but flop line seems super ******ed in my mind.

well, my plan for a raise was to 3 bet, if that makes you happier.

also, in villains shoes, what does everyone do with their range to the baby flop lead?

mench would you really take this line with a FH or trips? this line just seems full of ****

Wow way to copy my baby flop leading. Regardless, this is bad...the whole idea behind lines like this is that they look FOS and thus always get looked up.

I think it is strange that he flatted the flop. It makes me think that some 8x hands might be in his range (especially if original limper was weak tight and likely to fold pf or flop most of the time then villain would certainly have a wider range.) On the other hand some AK/AQ overcard hands may be in his range as well which he called the flop with because of the tiny bet and called turn when they picked up a gutter. Its feasible that he could take this line and turn those hands into bluffs on the river (though youre ahead of those hands anyway).

Just some thought on him maybe having a wider range based on the small flop donk.

Agreed, I like this line when we can beat AA.

STOP POSTING

i doubt he's ever b/f when it is likely you could have tripped up...

its good to know no one here likes to lead sets or draws i suppose.

i just cant see any villain, inclusing a lot of us here, to flat that flop with TT JJ QQ?

and I dont know that he knows I am capable of this, I do it very infrequently

If he can't have an overpair and it's unlikely for him to turn 66/77 into a bluff here (I'm just conjecturing), why not just call instead of raise?

An 8 makes a lot of sense for this line imo.

Ugh I got played here well done sir. Not sure what the **** I was doing.

Does anyone want to see the hand from my perspective?