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05-23-2008 , 04:20 PM
24-Tabling Like a Pro: Part III

Autohotkey is a free program that helps you automate tasks on your computer. You can get it at http://www.autohotkey.com/. There is plenty of reference material on the website if you want to tinker around with the programming language. It is pretty simple and easy to learn the basics, and I would suggest any serious online poker player (or anybody who uses their computer for a large portion of their day) to become acquainted with it. A little AHK knowledge can go a long long way.

I'll be discussing some of the pre-made scripts that you can use to speed up your actions. I did not have anything to do with the creation of these scripts, I just mooch them The talented guys at overcards.com are the ones who put these together.

BetPot
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=379
This is a script that you can use to automate all of your table actions - including your bet sizing. There is plenty of how-to explanation in the thread, but the important thing to remember is that you can customize all of your actions to basically anything you want. I've heard of people even using video game controllers. Being the computer nerd that I am, I was most efficient with all of my table actions programmed to my mouse.

MY SETUP
Logitech G9 Mouse
I chose this mouse because it was quick, efficient, customizable (2 "body" choices, and the option to add/remove weight). Betpot works with the mouse very well.
Left Click: Standard
Right Click: Fold
Side Button1: Call
Side Button2: Raise
Scroll Wheel Up/Down: Increase/Decrease bet size
Scroll Wheel Press: Pot size raise

With this configuration, I really only ever need to use my right hand to play all 24 tables. I don't even need to aim. I just need to have my mouse over the table. This leaves your left hand free to take care of other things.

Stars Planner
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=398
This is a great script that helps you save LOTS of clicks while playing. You can set it to automatically buy in for you, to keep the Stars lobby activated at all times (most multitablers know how much of a pain it is to have to reactivate stars every time you join a table), and quite a few other options. It increases multitabling efficiency dramatically, and I'd suggest giving it a try. I use version 0.4d, which has always been extremely stable for me.

I personally do not like the autoreloader scripts, as they interfere with a stacked table layout. With Stars Planner, all you need to do is click Options...>Add more chips, and the script takes care of the rest. Very easy.


*LEARN AHK*
The possibilities are endless for making poker and other computer related tasks more efficient. A very basic understanding of the language will be all you need to be able to customize other scripts, or make your own.
Here's just a small example of a simple one I use, which has helped very much.

Code:
SetTitleMatchMode, 2

Home::
WinGetActiveTitle, Title1
WinMove, %Title1%,, 0, 0
return

End::
WinGetActiveTitle, Title1
WinMove, %Title1%,, 0, 600
return

PgUp::
WinGetActiveTitle, Title1
WinMove, %Title1%,, 800, 0
return

PgDn::
WinGetActiveTitle, Title1
WinMove, %Title1%,, 800, 600
return
You can change the X and Y coordinates to whatever works for you. This is a script that simply moves the active window to 1 of 4 spots on your screen, using the Home, End, PgUp, and PgDn keys.

I use this script constantly. When I have my stack of 24 tables going, and I get a hand where I need to pay more attention, or want to see the results of, I can just hit 1 key and move it to an open area of the screen. 23 tables stay in the normal spot, and the 1 important table is visible without being interrupted. Once the hand is over, 1 keystroke brings it back.

There are tons of other various pre-made scripts in the 2+2 software forums. The ability to customize them, or to use bits and pieces of them with other scripts is a great asset.

Some other suggestions of poker-related scripts one might write:
-A "Startup" script that runs PT and starts an auto-import, PAHud, Poker Lobby, 2+2, etc
-A script to block you from looking at your cashier or PT stats, which is a nasty counter-productive habit we tend to develop.


The specifics of AHK really can't be covered in this article, though. There are hundreds of pages of documentation on autohotkey.com, which are what I used to learn the language. The purpose of this part of the article is more to stress the importance of learning AHK, and show what is possible when it is used correctly. You don't need to be good enough to write all of the scripts yourself - you just need to be good enough to mooch other peoples work and adapt it to fit your own style.
05-23-2008 , 04:57 PM
can u set up my AHK for me Belok, I'll pay ya. only need a few features like hotkeys and and that move table out of cascade/stack feature u mentioned sounds nice.
05-23-2008 , 05:53 PM
another great post, Belok. one thing you forgot to mention:
"Right Click: Fold" this becomes check/fold if you have starsplanner running.

some questions about the code for moving a table:
Can I put that into my betpot_default_hotkeys.ahk file or do i have to make it a separate file? does it resize the window as well? Doesn't seem that great for a tiler.


Johnny, I can help you setup the hotkeys, but don't know anything about the move table code. pm me with aim/msn if you wish.
05-23-2008 , 06:49 PM
I've tried learning AHK, but apparently, I'm ******ed with computer stuff. Can someone give me an example of the coding needed to, for example: start PT, start auto-import, open Full Tilt, log into Full Tilt, and open PAHud?
05-24-2008 , 10:39 PM
Belok, that is an AWESOME script. I like to stack as well, but I've always been slowed down by dragging that one in 50 hands I actually would like to watch.

If you're ever in Thailand, drop me a PM, I owe you a beer.

Thanks again!

Best,
Flux
05-24-2008 , 11:20 PM
This thread is awesome! Thanks guys.

Quick question,
Right now I 8 table on my macbook but will be buying a monitor as soon as I get to Vegas for the WSOP and plan to play ~16 tables. Assuming you guys recommend 1 30 inch monitor over two 20-24's, which brand/model would you recommend? Is it worth paying the extra money for HD? Is a Macbook powerfull enough for this? And are there any other bits of hardware that you feel are a must?
05-25-2008 , 01:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fluxboy
Belok, that is an AWESOME script. I like to stack as well, but I've always been slowed down by dragging that one in 50 hands I actually would like to watch.
Ya same here. Thanks a lot. I altered it a bit for the X,Y on the return to the stack as my stack is roughly in the middle of my screen. After some searching I found that Stars stores the pixel location of your stack in the configuration settings on your hard drive.

I even found myself reading the documentation on basic AHK. Its very interesting and the possibilities are endless as Belok stated. I'm terrible at coding geek ****. If I can do it...lol
05-25-2008 , 01:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Belok
Plus, if you keep an eye on your PT import text, it tells you how many files it is reading from - which lets you know how many tables you are actually active on.
wow, this is great! I never thought of it before


also, I wanted to throw in a tip that somebody told me on here that I find very useful for cascading: when you get your max tables up and cascaded, save your layout so you are always just one click away from having your layout fully restored back to normal. this is even more important on Full Tilt because if you accidentally tile them and then try to cascade them, it won't resize back to normal (and clicking the "back to default size" option on every table sucks balls obv.)
05-25-2008 , 04:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ricky1231
This thread is awesome! Thanks guys.

Quick question,
Right now I 8 table on my macbook but will be buying a monitor as soon as I get to Vegas for the WSOP and plan to play ~16 tables. Assuming you guys recommend 1 30 inch monitor over two 20-24's, which brand/model would you recommend? Is it worth paying the extra money for HD? Is a Macbook powerfull enough for this? And are there any other bits of hardware that you feel are a must?


Why would one prefer one 30"monitor over 2 24" monitors?..
I ask b/c i am currently looking to get a new setup (to tile 20+)
05-25-2008 , 04:29 AM
you guys should also look for the ahk script that clicks the timebank for you

I recently started to use it and it is the tits.
05-25-2008 , 06:14 AM
name?
05-25-2008 , 06:15 AM
Also I have acquired two great things from this thread, btw. Belok's script, which I modified to suit my own screen/ways of playing, and the great idea to put the windows bar on the left, so you can see every table flashing very easily.

thanks all!
05-25-2008 , 12:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by diebitter
name?
He's probably talking about Stars Assistant. I also just started using it and its great. Its at the standard places, check 2p2 software forum or overcards.com
05-25-2008 , 04:03 PM
stars move to urgent table and auto click timebank

It's really sweet.... i only use it to click timebanks, so I did the modifications listed toward the end of page 1 for those that correctly set their options
05-25-2008 , 04:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MyTurn2Raise
stars move to urgent table and auto click timebank

It's really sweet.... i only use it to click timebanks, so I did the modifications listed toward the end of page 1 for those that correctly set their options
Ok. It seems that Stars Assistant

http://overcards.com/wiki/moin.cgi/StarsAssistant

is just a rework of Stars Urgent Table with some more options. I didn't find many of them useful as they are for stuff like SnG's or already covered by Starsplanner. Like MyTurn, I just use it for the timebank feature.
05-25-2008 , 06:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackRain
Ok. It seems that Stars Assistant

http://overcards.com/wiki/moin.cgi/StarsAssistant

is just a rework of Stars Urgent Table with some more options. I didn't find many of them useful as they are for stuff like SnG's or already covered by Starsplanner. Like MyTurn, I just use it for the timebank feature.
QFT
05-26-2008 , 12:55 PM
yep...
I use:
1) stars betpot
2) stars planner
3) modified urgent table-timebank
so only the timebank thing happens
4) modified autoreloader
so that only my one button reload is active and my cpu resources aren't used in the loop searching all 20+ of my tables
5) PT2, ldo
6) PokerAce HUD, ldo

I don't use any of the table searching methods and such
At 100NL, almost all the regs still have leaks (like myself). I just study the regs hand histories to learn their tendencies.
05-27-2008 , 04:17 AM
Thanx very much for this OP, it has solved a few issues I had whilst multi tabling with AHK scripts, cheers.
05-29-2008 , 10:46 PM
What do other multi-monitor/multi-tablers use as a clear-to-see mouse pointer? Obviously it's not really an issue playing stacked on a single screen, but with tiled tables spread across 3 screens, I can sometimes lose the pointer for a split second.

I like the yellow highlighted effect seen on some of the Poker vids, which I think is part of the recording software; Camtasia Studio? Is there anything like this available for general use?
06-03-2008 , 01:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by diebitter
Also I have acquired two great things from this thread, btw. Belok's script, which I modified to suit my own screen/ways of playing, and the great idea to put the windows bar on the left, so you can see every table flashing very easily.

thanks all!
i still don't get this...

having the windows bar on the bottom (default), you can still see every table flashing as well...

am i missing something?
06-03-2008 , 02:38 AM
Does Beloks script work on FTP? Because of this thread I started stacking after years of tiling and I have to say stacking is awesome. The only thing I miss is being able to see timing tells etc...but playing 16 tables without really moving the mouse is pretty awesome so having this script would make it even better. I'm thinking about buying a laptop so I can 16 table on my lazy boy...thats how great stacking is.
06-03-2008 , 02:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by effang
i still don't get this...

having the windows bar on the bottom (default), you can still see every table flashing as well...

am i missing something?
most people don't have a bar at the bottom that displays more than 22 windows at a time
06-03-2008 , 02:43 AM
one beauty of 24 tabling is it is impossible for people to get timing tells on me
I act when I can... lol
06-03-2008 , 03:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MyTurn2Raise
most people don't have a bar at the bottom that displays more than 22 windows at a time
that is just as vague as what berge said...

you CAN'T see 22 windows at the bottom (because they are grouped), or you can't because it's not readable, or you can't because it doesn't fit?

i mean, sure, 22 windows at the bottom, the tables won't be readable, but it will flash when it's your action?
06-03-2008 , 04:16 AM
I'm at work now and I just purchased PT3 and PAhud. I'm eager to go home and try 24-tabling with HUD but I'm wondering if it takes too much resources to use PAhud with 24 tables. Any comments? My pc is up to date and quite fast but 24 tabling with HUD enabled sounds like crazy resource eating. At ongame, even 8-tabling with HUD on is kinda slow.

      
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