Villain is 10/8/3.3 over 189 hands.

Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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UTG+1: $191.00
UTG+2: $299.65
MP1: $400.00
MP2: $200.00
Hero (CO): $221.45
BTN: $109.45
SB: $200.65
BB: $190.00
UTG: $203.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is CO with 7 7
UTG raises to $8, 3 folds, MP2 calls $8, Hero calls $8, 3 folds

Standard.

Flop: ($27.00) Q 7 Q (3 players)
UTG requests TIME, UTG bets $18, MP2 folds, Hero requests TIME, Hero raises to $40, UTG requests TIME, UTG calls $22

I raise trying to make size look kind of weird, but should i just 3 or 4x it?

Turn: ($107.00) 3 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $40, UTG requests TIME, UTG calls $40

I think i bet too small. Once he calls flop, is he ever folding AA/KK here?

River: ($187.00) K (2 players)
UTG bets $115 all in, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls $115

I think i have to call river here. Do any hands take this line that i beat? Comments on any street appreciated.

I can't think of a single hand you beat.

he has teh flush. easy monies

flat flop, fold river

the reason hurt says flat flop is because the only Q this particular villain has in his range is QQ.

but I don't really care, I has a boat and I'm gonna at least try to make more than $35 with it.

TBh , I don't see anything you did wrong in the hand except on the turn you should have bet $55 instead of $40... and then of course the river is very questionable whether you should call as played.

I make it more on the flop to try to rep a flush draw or a bluff and encourage a shove, since his range is prob pretty strong OTF 88-AA, AQ, maybe bluff with AK?

As it stands, your bet sizing looks like "PLEASE GOD CALL." Alternately, it may look like "PLEASE GOD DON'T RAISE," but when you finally put in the big bet, it's gonna be crystal clear you weren't gay betting 99-JJ to see a cheap showdown.

yeah looks like KK or even quads but I like full 3x raise on flop because with your hand the only way your getting stacks in most times good is if he has QX so i like raise flop to build the pot and make your line look weird because most players prob flat Qx or 7s full there, I would bomb turn 60-75 to make a bluff look possible. at that point i would never be able to fold because pot would be bigger but looks like a pay off spot to KK or QQ river. Cooler , wouldnt put too much thought in folding river because your getting 3/1 and if your wrong its a huge mistake. your going to be shown flushes , AQ and some spazzy stuff like AK and AA enough of the time that the times you see QQ KQ and KK are made up for.

I think i agree about paying off river given price, if i bomb turn bigger it's no brainer. So people honestly think river is a fold? Getting wide ranging opinions on river.

Smells like K-K I thought the key is to be able to lay down on the river sometimes knowing your beat. I would also have a tough time laying this down

its's pretty ugly...

with bet sizing u created an ugly spot... so it's obv to raise more on flop and bomb more on turn that u r commited anyway...

vs. a standard 10/8 I prolly fold that River bc the only hands he might jam there we beat is AQ (with that line pretty unlikely) and a flush (in my eyes also unlikely that a 10/8 is going that far with a FD on a paired board... but it's nevertheless possible...). Furthermore AKhh and AQhh is impossible for him to have and that are pretty much the only hands he will raise from that position... considerung this I guess it's a fold...

however if villain is vinivici I call there bc he's turning AA into a bluff at that point

i could fold but i probably won't on Mondays-Wednesdays or Fridays and Sunday mornings.,,

i can't tell you how pissed I'd be if villain had QQ here, this is exactly how these 10/8's would play QQ...man it makes me so mad. I wouldn't care if he had KK... but when these guys play the nuts like this, it irritates me so hard. I like when someone 3bet's one of these 10/8's and they flat and then insta donk mash pot on like a 442 flop

once this thread dies can you say whether he had KK or QQ or whether you somehow won here?

Im guessing he rivered Kings full. I like raising the flop, it's paired so people always think one is FOS there.

He had KK. Just wondering if i can actually fold this here, ever. I guess some people think so. Dunno.

I don't understand the 40 dollar bet on the turn. You're giving villain 4 to 1 on a call. If you put him on an hand such as KK. That 3 on the turn changes nothing if he doesn't think you have a queen.

This would make your river call much easier will a 70-80 dollar bet on the turn.

You can't fold the river here just because non-Q paint peeled off, no. River is fine.

I was sweating him and once villain called flop we both said "This is AA/KK". I think he can find a fold if bet almost pot on the turn, so that's why we decided to put a small sucker bet.

wat

are you saying a Q is a better river for hero than a K?

I think this is fine.

exactly.

My poker training is of the classical sort where I try to size every flop and turn to prepare the river for a shove, but at the 200nl FR nit-fest I think we just have to accept that we are not getting stacks from regs with our sets all that often. I probably would have bet $55 on the turn in real life, but villain probably would have folded i mean who are we kidding (he basically calls the flop hoping that we check back the turn, and he's so ready to fold if we fire again, but when hero fires so small, villain is dumb and decides he's good???). So, I really kind of like the turn bet and then once he calls, he is gonna definitely call at least $65 on the river if it's not an A. So, doing it this I think we will often make $145'ish but he will get away on the turn soooo often if we make it a little bigger. Hand is played well I think.

I would never play this hand like this, but if I did I'd snap fold river

Try again.

ill pass but thanks

more on flop and turn

and this is a fold on river

Whats the reason for raising flop in the first place? If he has a pocket pair hes not going to feel comfortable anymore while he might barrel turn + river if you just flat. If he has a queen hes stacking off anyway and if he has ace high he might improve to a second best hand which will also bet turn and/or river. If your going to raise i dont see the point of raising this small. It doesn't look bluffy at all and you cant inudce nits. You also didnt supply a solid read that you have seen villain spaz out on paired boards before. If you are making a play are you ever going to bet the turn in the first place once he calls? Im assuming villain doesnt see you as a ****** so he must know your not going to play back at him light on paired boards. River is really tricky and while you dont beat alot he can still have aq here sometimes so i probably dont fold even though i dont expect to be good alot here.

Becaue he's so tight his range is basiclly AQ+, QQ+.

Raising big is bad, because he will fold KK/AA alot. AK folds as well.

Flatting is good, if we think he's likely to barrel, or has AK alot.

Raising small gives us max value from AA/KK.

We chose no. 3.