UTG+1 is 12/6 over 495 hands and I feel his range is heavily weighted towards small PPs.

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UTG: $100.00
UTG+1: $103.00
MP1: $49.70
Hero (MP2): $135.35
CO: $19.70
BTN: $45.95
SB: $58.00
BB: $43.80

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP2 with K K
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $4.50, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.50) 3 J T (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($10.50) 8 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

River: ($10.50) 8 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $8,

Does this look okay? Am I wrong in my assumption that his range has mostly PPs?

Thanks for any help

level?

Did you take this line because villain check-raises alot? I can see if that was the case, but I think bcb or bbc and fold to a raise at any point are good lines to take here.

Gosh, i hope he called you on the river...zomg....

WTF. Bet the flop he may still call with his pocket pair and put you on a C-bet with AK/AQ etc...

not ok at all...

HUH?!??!?!?!? you know the chances of hitting a set on the flop right?
you have position; c-bet/c/b or c-bet/b/c, you can basically pot control that giving him 5 free cards here is soooo bad...

too thin imo

I'm not checking because I am afraid of a set... I have his range crushed... Should I be betting flop to protect my hand against a smaller PP? Or do we expect villain to call oop with 22-99?

I'm only giving him 2 free cards, right? He paid for the first 3. If he has a small PP, he has two outs, I'm not too worried about free cards if it will help me get a hero call on the river.

I am confused. Do you hate money? You should be betting for value on flop or turn. I would bet flop and turn, maybe check back river if I was running bad that day.

No, it's not that. I'm not worried about running bad or him hitting his set or whatever. I understand that I have a good hand that is way ahead of villain's range. I am trying to focus on the underpair portion of villain's range, which is the vast majority of his range. I expect him to open with TT+ so I am only behind 33 and 88. I'm basically never behind here. But I really don't expect villain to call a flop bet oop with 55 here. Do you? I mean, if this type of villain is calling 2 streets oop with an underpair, then by all means, I should be betting the flop. But I feel like he isn't going to float oop 2 streets with 3rd pair.

I think your hand is under-repped

That's the point. That is why I think he will call with 22-99. Should I just betpot on the flop so villain knows he should fold his missed set?

That's right, make him play perfect vs. you.

His range is slightly wider than just PP's, he will have some 89ss, 67ss, A2s, etc in his UTG limping range as well. Having said that, I think I would check flop, and bet turn and river but only expect to get called on one street.

Level? I think I would rather villain make mistakes than play perfect, I dunno though.

I guess I could have gone this route. At the time, I was honestly thinking I would be lucky to get one street of value, but I guess it wouldn't hurt to try to go for two since I have such a strong hand. At the same time though, if villain is only going to call one street, it is more likely he does so on the river for obvious reasons, right?

I totally agree that were most likely only going to get one street against a villan like this. Typically we would want to try and make that one street the flop just because its where we bet the most often, but with the board being slightly coordinated and most likely being two overs to his likely range I cant see him peeling all that light here. I would prefer to make my bet on the turn just because we always have the best hand and he may call everyonce in a while thinking that were betting a draw we picked up or something. Basically Im betting the river not because he will call very often but because I have the best hand, if he calls we make money and when he doesnt call he doesnt get the benefit of seeing our hand.

i think you are good here most of the time coz i can't see him checking 3 times with a set. however, what if the river wasn't an 8? what if it's another low card which does not pair the board?

do you check it down now? so say you don't and you get check raised. what now? can you lay it down?

what i'm trying to say here is that by not betting flop or turn, you are risking more than what you stand to earn...

surely, surely you have got to bet at least one of flop and turn. in fact, with your line of thoughts in wanting to get a hero call on the river, would it not be better to bet flop, check turn and call river? or bet again and try to get 2 streets of value if he checks river?

so many questions which i hope are actually answers to what i think is a better line to take...

this line is so bad

back to 25nl

but seriously, lead the flop

honestly, op if this thread isn't a level you should consider moving down to 25nl or even 10nl for maybe 100k hands only. They will help you in the micro forum with basic ideas like value betting etc. Posting hands like this here is going to get a bunch of sarcastic responses.

I really don't understand the c-bet , although that bet on the river may induce a thought of bluff to villain, so villain may call with his medium pocket, IMO

I didn't bet the river because the board paired. I'm not worried about a set.

It's not a level, I kinda wish it was though. You really expect villain to peel flop oop with 55 here? Really? He is a 12/6 setminer.

i dont think a 12/6 is just a set miner. a 7/3 or something but i think a 12/6 has more than pps in his range.