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Originally Posted by g-bebe
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Any general thoughts on the power creep with irons these days? By that I refer to the increasingly delofted iron sets.
If someone is looking at a new iron set, do you think it is at a disadvantage to have to add in additional wedges when all these iron sets have PW at 44 degrees or even lower lofts?
FWIW I currently play Taylormade R11's, 4-AW. PW is 45*, AW is 50*, and I also have 52* and 56* wedges. But I find it kind of annoying that I have in essence two gap wedges. Is this line of thought stupid? Or should one just look at iron sets with wedges down to a certain loft, and fill in the gaps with additional wedges?
With your R11's, the ideal additions would be a 54 and 58.
Here's the tricky part in adding wedges. Let's say you want to add a Vokey 54 and 58 to your current R11's. Your AW is 50 so 54 is seemingly a perfect number and then 58. But the R11 AW and the Vokey are made totally different. The R11 AW will go significantly farther than a Vokey 50 for instance. So you have to make an educated guess on what the difference will be.
So in reality, you'd want to bend the Vokey 54 to a 53 to maintain consistent gapping. In your current setup, if your 52 and 56 are blade type wedges, you could bend the 52 to a 53 and the 56 to a 57 and the gaps should be pretty consistent.
Loft creep is something I've witnessed for 20 years now probably. Early in my pro career a standard PW was 48, now my PW is 45. Then I add a 50,55, and 60 because the clubs are all made similarly therefore the gaps are consistent. I am very, very detailed in my gapping at the wedge end of the bag.
But it's always solvable from a fitting point of view. For example, let's say a golfer shoots 100 and therefore needs super game improvement clubs that have a PW loft of 43. This golfer is not going to want Vokey wedges, rather wedges that are easier to hit, so you just continue with the matching gap and sand wedges in that set and you've got good gapping. Conversely, a golfer that needs Vokey wedges isn't going to play a PW with a crazy low loft.
In the end, it's all about how far the ball flies with each wedge, not the number on the club. But it's fairly standard to "cheat" 1 degree with the loft when going from a game improvement club to a blade like wedge.