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07-19-2016 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Carcharodon1977
Spent an hour on Thursday putting.

3 Footers - good to go.
20 Foot lag - good to go.
30 Foot lag - 2nd attempt.
45 Feet - Around 80%. Due to time I just putted 25 balls, even if they missed to work on the speed.

I did do a pull back putting session. Lag putt from (20, 30 and 45) feet. Every miss, move back a putter length (3 feet). Keep going until you sink it. Did 6 balls from each distance. Add up strokes. Was able to 2 putt all 18 balls. Great confidence boost.

Played Saturday - did 5 lag from 20, 30 and 45 again. 20 Feet was solid, 4 out of 5 for 30 and 3 out of 5 for 45 feet.

A month ago I shot 111 on this course. Saturday I carded a 92 with 3 three putts. My chipping is horrendous. That's something I need to work on. I did drill a 23 footer on the second hole for bogey and that set the confidence tone for the rest of the day. The three putts were from 55, 75 and 81 feet by the way. Anything inside 7 feet was gold. Made most inside 10 feet. This routine continues to amaze me when I put the effort in.
Well....lesson with a Pro is booked for Wednesday. Time to work on chipping and pitching. Sub 90 goal is in the works.
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07-21-2016 , 12:31 PM
Wow. I can now chip and pitch with confidence. Even mis-hits are better than what I've been getting results wise.

Looking forward to playing next weekend.

Before the lesson I went to putt a little.

5 Footers are solid.

Did 20, 30 and 45 feet lag putts again.
20 Feet is still perfect.
30 Feet I got 75% (9 out of 12) inside 2 feet.
45 Feet is still crazy difficult. It's something I'll be spending more time on.

My goal is to beat my personal best of 87. I feel that with my new chipping and pitching method, I can do it. Especially now that my putting has improved and my driver lands in the fairway all the time.
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07-22-2016 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Carcharodon1977
Wow. I can now chip and pitch with confidence. Even mis-hits are better than what I've been getting results wise.

Looking forward to playing next weekend.

Before the lesson I went to putt a little.

5 Footers are solid.

Did 20, 30 and 45 feet lag putts again.
20 Feet is still perfect.
30 Feet I got 75% (9 out of 12) inside 2 feet.
45 Feet is still crazy difficult. It's something I'll be spending more time on.

My goal is to beat my personal best of 87. I feel that with my new chipping and pitching method, I can do it. Especially now that my putting has improved and my driver lands in the fairway all the time.
will be visiting edm sept 15 and 16. have recip memberships at petrol and derrick. let me know if you want to join us for a round.
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07-25-2016 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mendicant loafer
will be visiting edm sept 15 and 16. have recip memberships at petrol and derrick. let me know if you want to join us for a round.
That's a very generous offer, thanks. I have to pass on it though. My babies expectant due date is September 16. I think my golfing days will be done for the year by then
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09-29-2016 , 07:49 AM
So pleased to see that this is an active feed. I was meant to work through this routine last winter but didn't quite commit to it as went through a slump in my interest with the game. Partly due to the course I was member of and partly due to life commitments. Moved house in May and gave up golf club membership. Took 2 months off golf and only played every 2 weeks. Posted some high 90 scores playing some local courses near to my new home. Wasn't impressed with my performance so play a few rounds at good standard course nearest my home which I thought was hard to get onto with regards to membership, I was wrong and ended up joining there at the beginning of August 2016. Since then I've played a lot and practised a fair bit at the new course which has excellent practise facilities. Started lessons a few weeks ago also. Then I remembered about this routine last week and went over to the course yesterday and started plan A. Results were

25 3 foot putts = 25 minutes
20 putts to 20 feet in 3 foot circle = 15 minutes
20 putts to 30 feet in 3 foot circle = 19 minutes incomplete

Then hit 25 balls on the range and went and played 9 holes with 2 others. Ended up with 18 points off of a 21 handicap and that was with 2 blob holes where I had lost the ball and score ing would of been hard to do. So was pleased with the result as I missed a few easy also. Greens at the course are being treated so let myself off missing these easy putts.

Going back over tomorrow to continue where I left off as I have re read the thread again and noticed that others are running through the program over the course of 2 weeks instead of starting back at 25 out of 25 putts at 3 feet.

Hope everyone is seeing progress with this routine and it'd be great to see the dagolfdoc make an appearance on here again ha ha. I'll be reading posts by others on here as it only strengthens my belief in this routine. More results to follow and apologies for over long post
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09-29-2016 , 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by mendicant loafer
will be visiting edm sept 15 and 16. have recip memberships at petrol and derrick. let me know if you want to join us for a round.
Hi mendicant loafer, are you still using this routine? If so how's your game going?
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09-29-2016 , 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Carcharodon1977
That's a very generous offer, thanks. I have to pass on it though. My babies expectant due date is September 16. I think my golfing days will be done for the year by then
Hi Carcharodon 1977, have you had a chance to get out and practice or play in light of your expectant arrival?
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09-30-2016 , 01:22 PM
Back over the course today to carry on with the 30foot lag putts. Couldn't get 20 in a row to stop within a 3 foot circle, best I could manage was 15. Changed my position on the green twice just couldn't quite crack it. Guess I've found my weakness

Stopped after 1 hour 8 minutes done some chipping then went out and played 18 holes with a 3 handicap golfer who had 37 years playing experience at a very high level. He gave me a few pointers about playing in the wind and playing the course in general. Took some good advice from him but didn't play very good at all. 25 points with 6 blobs.

Lesson this Sunday with pro and out to practise and play next Wednesday
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10-01-2016 , 02:23 AM
Jams,

This is what I did to help get through the lag putting when I 1st started this routine. If I was outside of 3 feet. Since the goal is to 2 putt, I could count the putt and not have to start over if I made it on a second shot . This helps break up the monotony of doing the same putt over and over and it helped me move through the routine faster. I also found it really helped me practice my 5 foot putts.
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10-01-2016 , 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by powder_8s
Jams,

This is what I did to help get through the lag putting when I 1st started this routine. If I was outside of 3 feet. Since the goal is to 2 putt, I could count the putt and not have to start over if I made it on a second shot . This helps break up the monotony of doing the same putt over and over and it helped me move through the routine faster. I also found it really helped me practice my 5 foot putts.

Thanks Powder_8 I'll give this a try. I have a really bad tendency to leave putts shirt on all different length putts. It's something I'm trying to cure as well as get through the routine, so maybe that's anouther reason my lag putts are so bad. Got a few drills to help me with this so hopefully I'll start making it passed the hole more often and improve on my lag putting.

Quick question for you, did you see an improvement in your scores after using this routine Powder?

Cheers Jams
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10-01-2016 , 12:27 PM
I absolutely improved.

I started using this routine about 2 years ago. At the time I was just stating to break 90 on a regular basis. Now I break 80 regularly. 90 is now a terrible score for me. I shot a 71 and a handful of 75s this summer.

I use this routine to practice my putting and chipping. I don't do the irons and long game. I used to do it regularly (at least once a week). Now I use it as a tune up when Im playing poorly. Of all the things I have found online. This routine was the most helpful.
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10-01-2016 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by powder_8s
I absolutely improved.

I started using this routine about 2 years ago. At the time I was just stating to break 90 on a regular basis. Now I break 80 regularly. 90 is now a terrible score for me. I shot a 71 and a handful of 75s this summer.

I use this routine to practice my putting and chipping. I don't do the irons and long game. I used to do it regularly (at least once a week). Now I use it as a tune up when Im playing poorly. Of all the things I have found online. This routine was the most helpful.
That's so good to hear Powder, gives me the impetus I need to stick with the program and carry on with this routine. I mean if your break 80's regular mad have shot low 70's your in place I want to be. Great scores by the way and thanks for the tips and for the messages regarding my lag putting cheers
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10-05-2016 , 01:49 PM
Had a lesson on Sunday with golf pro, full swing lesson mainly but we did take a good look at my lag putting and he gave me a good drill will help me with getting passed the hole. I had a go at the 20 putts in a row from 30 feet and although I didn't complete the section I did get to 14 in a row and I was a lot closer to the hole than before. Also had a new Super stroke grip fitted to my putter and I think this has a lot to do with my improvement. Bit pushed for time so had to stop after 28 minutes. Back over the course Sunday, going to dedicate 1-1/2 to 2 hours to the UPR and hopefully move on from the putting section
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10-18-2016 , 11:44 PM
Whoa....I have been struggling big time with this routine, but I believe in it. After about three weeks, I spent may hours in weeks 1 and 3 and no hours in week 2 working tough the routine. I have seen great improvement in my putting.

That said, the goals are waaaay too hard. I am an 18 handicap, but I was on the shelf with an injury for about 9 months and have only recently returned to playing. My few rounds since I have returned to playing are more like a 25-27 handicap.

3 feet: I am now up to making 10 in a row with relative ease. The most I have ever made is 22. I have spent 2+ hours on the 3 ft putts at least 4-5 times. I switched to making 3 sets of 15. Doable, but extremely difficult and time consuming. Finally, I moved to 3 sets of 10. I can do that in about 45 minutes most of the time.

After watching me struggle for 8 hours one day on this routine two of the pros at my club asked what I was doing. I told them about the routine. They both said 25 in a row was unreasonably hard. They both said they did not think they could make 25 in a row.

20 feet: Oddly, I found this easier than the 3 feet putts. Of course, I tried this after working hours on the 3' putts; so the two might be related. In any event, I have very little trouble getting 20 in a row with 1 or 2 attempts.

30 feet: At first, I thought this would be impossible. My first efforts were horribly discouraging. Now, I can pretty quickly get 10 in a row. 19 is my highest.

45 feet: I have only recently tried this distance. But, I am not finding it too difficult to get 10 in a row. My highest so far is 12.

Chipping from 20 feet: Very challenging so far. But I am working a lot on technique, and my accuracy is improving. I can do about 70% (14-20), but I have only been able to do 10 in a row a couple of times.

20-30 yards: I have only tried this twice. The first time was a disaster. So I get a quick little lesson from the pro which was very helpful. But I still have a long way to go. The biggest question I have about this distance is the routine indicates that we are to land our shot on the green and stop it there. From this distance, however, I am still hitting more of a bump and run chip than a pitch. So I am purposefully pitching short of the green to let the ball run and stop on the green. Is this still a a useful approach?

I have not made it past the 20-30 yards distance because to get that far in the routine takes me typically at least 3 hours, and I only have so much time in the day....lol Not to mention how much strain my backs and legs start to feel by then.

The really good news is ..... I have played three rounds since starting the routine and have never 3 putt more than 3 times in any one round. Definite improvement there.
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10-19-2016 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by C Put 6163
Whoa....I have been struggling big time with this routine, but I believe in it. After about three weeks, I spent may hours in weeks 1 and 3 and no hours in week 2 working tough the routine. I have seen great improvement in my putting.

That said, the goals are waaaay too hard. I am an 18 handicap, but I was on the shelf with an injury for about 9 months and have only recently returned to playing. My few rounds since I have returned to playing are more like a 25-27 handicap.

3 feet: I am now up to making 10 in a row with relative ease. The most I have ever made is 22. I have spent 2+ hours on the 3 ft putts at least 4-5 times. I switched to making 3 sets of 15. Doable, but extremely difficult and time consuming. Finally, I moved to 3 sets of 10. I can do that in about 45 minutes most of the time.

After watching me struggle for 8 hours one day on this routine two of the pros at my club asked what I was doing. I told them about the routine. They both said 25 in a row was unreasonably hard. They both said they did not think they could make 25 in a row.

20 feet: Oddly, I found this easier than the 3 feet putts. Of course, I tried this after working hours on the 3' putts; so the two might be related. In any event, I have very little trouble getting 20 in a row with 1 or 2 attempts.

30 feet: At first, I thought this would be impossible. My first efforts were horribly discouraging. Now, I can pretty quickly get 10 in a row. 19 is my highest.

45 feet: I have only recently tried this distance. But, I am not finding it too difficult to get 10 in a row. My highest so far is 12.

Chipping from 20 feet: Very challenging so far. But I am working a lot on technique, and my accuracy is improving. I can do about 70% (14-20), but I have only been able to do 10 in a row a couple of times.

20-30 yards: I have only tried this twice. The first time was a disaster. So I get a quick little lesson from the pro which was very helpful. But I still have a long way to go. The biggest question I have about this distance is the routine indicates that we are to land our shot on the green and stop it there. From this distance, however, I am still hitting more of a bump and run chip than a pitch. So I am purposefully pitching short of the green to let the ball run and stop on the green. Is this still a a useful approach?

I have not made it past the 20-30 yards distance because to get that far in the routine takes me typically at least 3 hours, and I only have so much time in the day....lol Not to mention how much strain my backs and legs start to feel by then.

The really good news is ..... I have played three rounds since starting the routine and have never 3 putt more than 3 times in any one round. Definite improvement there.
We'll done C put, glad you are seeing an improvement in your game. I've had to side line this routine because of full swing issues I need to address. Going to start back up soon though as my putting still needs loads of work. As for the stopping on the green question I would assume there is nothing wrong in what you are doing as the end result is that the ball stops on the green. I know the routine asks that you land and stop the ball on the green but unless you know how to spin the ball back quite well this might be too much of an ask.
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10-31-2016 , 07:47 AM
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20-30 yards: I have only tried this twice. The first time was a disaster. So I get a quick little lesson from the pro which was very helpful. But I still have a long way to go. The biggest question I have about this distance is the routine indicates that we are to land our shot on the green and stop it there. From this distance, however, I am still hitting more of a bump and run chip than a pitch. So I am purposefully pitching short of the green to let the ball run and stop on the green. Is this still a a useful approach?
It is definitely still a useful approach, and that is something I changed that helped my game a lot. There are many instances where you SHOULD be using bump and run instead of land/stop (particularly tiered greens, very hard fairways etc).

The problem though is that on more tricky courses you will often have a bunker in the way, or the green will be on a big mound, or there is rough, or water, or something stopping you from bump and running.

If you only play on one course, and that isn't a factor though... then keep bump and running!
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08-11-2017 , 04:28 PM
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Hi Carcharodon 1977, have you had a chance to get out and practice or play in light of your expectant arrival?
I did not. Haven't been on here in forever. Haven't worked on this too much since the baby came. Maybe in the winter at home I can work on my SkLZ putting green. 3-5-7 feet. Need to find a good putting grip/stroke. I keep tinkering.

I did manage to shoot 89 on Saturday. 36 putts. One was a 3 putt. I also had a 2 putt G.I.R bogey (Yip, going for the birdie I smoked the ball off the green, lol).
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08-12-2017 , 01:26 AM
i stayed with the routine three months which means i dedicated several hours at least five days a week to improving my short game. my cap dropped seven strokes last year.

this year i got into a funk with my full swing, lots of toe-shanking, and failing to shift my weight. solved that with a couple lessons and lots more work hitting wedges 35 - 70 yards. the short game remains solid. followed a pro around during a tournament (jhared hack) and copied his putting routine. big improvement.

couple of tips; hold your finish when you putt. helps ensure you accelerate your putter down the line.

i start each practice session hitting 30-35 pitches to various distances.
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01-16-2018 , 11:41 AM
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i start each practice session hitting 30-35 pitches to various distances.
That sounds like good advice. I got GameGolf and it says I need to work on 10-33 foot putts and shots from 25 yards out to save about 7 strokes a round.

I found last year I was constantly around 35 yards from the flag. So I'm going to work a lot more on my chipping and pitching this year. I'll also double down on 10-35 foot putts.
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05-31-2018 , 11:28 AM
Just started doing this routine today and I am now hooked - thanks, I love it!

3 foot putts took a while and got there after 1.25 hrs. No problems with the 20 & 30 ft lag putts and currently stuck on the 45 ft lag putts - that is tough.

Still hooked and even thinking about going up to the course tonight to continue.
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05-31-2018 , 10:25 PM
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You nailed the problem with common instruction (imo). Most instructors only focus on the full-swing. Once you learn a solid pitching technique, you'll get that in no time! Having a solid pitching game is the benchmark behind my philosophy - if you can pitch/putt, it takes a lot of pressure off your full-swing. You can lay up or pitch out after a poor drive & still have the opportunity to save par or make bogey at worst. If you can't find a good instructor in the NOLA area, post or send me a couple videos of your pitching & I'll be happy to help you with the technique.



I like Utley's thoughts on pitching/chipping (not as much on putting), Phil's book on short game is pretty simple. I, personally, am not a fan of Pelz. Watsons book "Getting Up & Down" was a bible to me as a junior golfer. If you can find it, Paul Runyan's book "The Short Way to Lower Scoring" is probably as good as they come. He was the instructor that taught me the value of the short game, and he was pretty much the best short game player to ever play on tour. There are some remarkable stories about Paul & what he did around the green when he played.

I believe the better you get at the short stuff, the more you enjoy practicing it, so keep at it & you'll improve & have more fun!
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Hey guys - I've been on the road for the past 6 days & haven't had a chance to reply to some questions I had via PM - my apologies. Hopefully, I can get most answered tonight!

One question was regarding putting grips - there are many types of grips: traditional, cross-handed, claw, saw, etc. I'll touch on traditional.

I personally prefer the grip to match the players body type - if you take your take your normal putting grip & take your bottom hand off the club (right hand for a rh player) then flatten your left wrist, take a look at the face - is it square? For most players I see, when they flatten the wrist, the face is open - if this is the case, you'll want to turn your left hand clockwise until the back of the left wrist and the face match. A good starting point would be putting your left thumb on the right corner of the grip - this will allow you to square the face without any manipulation. You'll then want to put your right hand on the club so it matches the left hand (it will probably feel very much "under" the club and it may feel like the palm is facing more skyward). The first few putts will feel pretty awkward, but after 10-20 putts, you'll notice a more consistent roll & the balls will be starting on line much better. This isn't a one-size-fits-all grip, but it's definitely a good start if you're searching for a consistent grip. If you can find a video of Brad Faxon putting, his hands sit like this on the putter. I have some great video of him, but don't have it on this computer - I'll try to post them this week. Once again -not everyone putts like this, so I don't want anyone to think I'm saying this is the ONLY way to do it - just a good starting point for anyone who's struggling with the putter. One thing I do like to see in all putter grips is that the shaft and the forearms are in line (when looking down the line) - if your putter grip is proper - the shaft will blend perfectly in line with the forearms, and in most great putters, the forearms and the thighs are parallel.

Another question I received was about using one club or several around the green. I might have touched on this in another thread, but I prefer to learn to hit multiple shots with one club as opposed to using several. I grew up using several different clubs around the green, and I found, at least for me, that it lead to too much confusion when I was decided which club to use. Once I went to primarily one club (I use 58* for 95% of my shots around the green & use my 54* for longer, running shots) I had more confidence & commitment to the shots, in addition to making practice easier since I only had to use 1 club around the green. Lot's of great players have used multiple clubs, and in certain situations I'll still use a hybrid or 7-iron to chip, but overall I prefer learning get really good with 1-club instead of being mediocre with several. For a player who might be struggling with club selection, starting with one club around the greens is a probably an easy & effective way to simplify & improve.
Reminder to self: Get books on short game.
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05-31-2018 , 11:59 PM
Has anyone here ever actually made 25 5-footers in a row? I've been doing make 25 in a row drills since I read Greg Norman's book 'Shark Attack' in the late 80's. I've never completed it with 5 footers.
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06-04-2018 , 05:54 AM
Started my second time doing this practice routine & things clicked a little bit faster.
Managed to get all putts & chips done inside 4 hrs (two sessions) - for the 45 ft lag putts I did ease off a little on the "20 target" by enabling up to 2 to count if I managed to putt them.

Note, although I am seeing progress in practice - it has yet to show itself on the course - still managed 5 3-putts yesterday & fell apart on the last 9.
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06-04-2018 , 05:58 AM
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Has anyone here ever actually made 25 5-footers in a row? I've been doing make 25 in a row drills since I read Greg Norman's book 'Shark Attack' in the late 80's. I've never completed it with 5 footers.
Don`t be so hard on yourself - on GN site he indicates that he only rarely makes 25 5-ft putts in a row.

http://shark.com/the-shark/golf-tips/lesson-56/
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06-18-2018 , 10:02 AM
Update:

Stuck to the UPR for 2-3 weeks & now starting to see improvement on course.

Up & downs 40% (4 from 10 to include 0 for 2 sand), did not miss a putt under 3 ft, 34 putts & only 2 3-putts.

Still room for improvement & feeling much more confident around the green.
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