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05-16-2013 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by mucksandgravs
I think he's referring to Tiger making boatloads of money off deals that were setup bc he portrayed himself as a family man
What deals did he set up based on his image as a family man?

Not trying to argue btw - I'm actually curious since the image I remember from the ads I've seen, is generally trying to portray the cool, mysterious superhuman and not particularly the caring family father.
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05-16-2013 , 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by MinusEV
What deals did he set up based on his image as a family man?

Not trying to argue btw - I'm actually curious since the image I remember from the ads I've seen, is generally trying to portray the cool, mysterious superhuman and not particularly the caring family father.
Buick


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you all miss the big picture with Sergio.

He was told his entire life he was the anointed. Tiger has completely owned him over the years, shattering his phsyche. Sergio feels he is a victim due to his twisted jealously of what Tiger has achieved, at his expense. It comes out in pressure situations. I love Sergio but he is a broken, bitter golfer, and blames Tiger.

and that is the truth. rack it.
You could see Tiger when told about Sergio he with a smile on his face Sergio' always complaining. When they tell Sergio that. He looks like he wants to kill something. One handles stress better one doesnt.
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05-16-2013 , 10:41 AM
I'd argue Accenture was one that his image had a lot to do with.
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05-16-2013 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by UCBananaboy
I'd argue Accenture was one that his image had a lot to do with.
Add AT&T to that a bit and Gillette but was surprised with gatorarde.

Could be worse and lose them all like Lance
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05-16-2013 , 11:01 AM
I was sad about Gatorade. Loved his drink line.

Luckily, I'm Asian so have minimal facial hair, so his Gillette endorsement had no utility for me.
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05-16-2013 , 11:11 AM
OK so Picasso was a huge dick too. He's also been dead since 1973. When Tiger has been dead for 40 years, I will appreciate the fact that he was awesome at golf.

That doesn't make him "not a dick". I don't know how you can clap for a douche bag like Tiger. He seriously has the maturity level of a 12 year old and is basically an awful human. Are you a big Hitler fan because of his mastery of dictatorship and genocide? Maybe that's a stretch.

Oh by the way, he hasn't won a major since 2008, and it took a playoff to beat ROCCO MEDIATE. Are we really that impressed?
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05-16-2013 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by POKEROMGLOL
OK so Picasso was a huge dick too. He's also been dead since 1973. When Tiger has been dead for 40 years, I will appreciate the fact that he was awesome at golf.

That doesn't make him "not a dick". I don't know how you can clap for a douche bag like Tiger. He seriously has the maturity level of a 12 year old and is basically an awful human. Are you a big Hitler fan because of his mastery of dictatorship and genocide? Maybe that's a stretch.
100% agree dude has the personality of a 12 year old. That annoys the hell out of me, but doesn't mean **** when he's beating everyone on the course.
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05-16-2013 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by POKEROMGLOL
Oh by the way, he hasn't won a major since 2008, and it took a playoff to beat ROCCO MEDIATE. Are we really that impressed?
Broken leg tho
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05-16-2013 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by POKEROMGLOL
OK so Picasso was a huge dick too. He's also been dead since 1973. When Tiger has been dead for 40 years, I will appreciate the fact that he was awesome at golf.

That doesn't make him "not a dick". I don't know how you can clap for a douche bag like Tiger. He seriously has the maturity level of a 12 year old and is basically an awful human. Are you a big Hitler fan because of his mastery of dictatorship and genocide? Maybe that's a stretch.

Oh by the way, he hasn't won a major since 2008, and it took a playoff to beat ROCCO MEDIATE. Are we really that impressed?
Please explain why he is an "awful human".

Because he curses on the course and flips, bangs, or kicks a club now and then? News flash - ton of pros do this. They simply aren't televised when they do, or receive a half-paragraph of press the handful of times they do end up getting mentioned. I've seen numerous people do the same things in front of me at events I've gone to.

Because he cheated on his wife? Thousands of athletes before this - a number of whom of status at or close to Tiger's level - have confirmed done the same thing. Why do they escape hate?

He's never been linked to anything criminal, any drug or addiction problems, any abusive actions towards others, and never went off the deep end with any overly inflammatory comments.

What is awful about any of this?
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05-16-2013 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ReidLockhart
Broken leg tho
That is a stretch to Its not like the bone was sticking out

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Please explain why he is an "awful human".

Because he curses on the course and flips, bangs, or kicks a club now and then? News flash - ton of pros do this. They simply aren't televised when they do, or receive a half-paragraph of press the handful of times they do end up getting mentioned. I've seen numerous people do the same things in front of me at events I've gone to.

Because he cheated on his wife? Thousands of athletes before this - a number of whom of status at or close to Tiger's level - have confirmed done the same thing. Why do they escape hate?

He's never been linked to anything criminal, any drug or addiction problems, any abusive actions towards others, and never went off the deep end with any overly inflammatory comments.

What is awful about any of this?

Yes he has been linked to drugs PEDs

As for the cursing and throwing of clubs He tells us he is going to change that and never does.

And yes some of the things you mentioned to make him lack character. To me his ego also when he crashes his car after his wife is chasing him down the driveway with a 5 iron. He gets a pass on the DUI. Than has a press conference were only a select few are invited. Than blames his actions on a sex addiction.

Heck if he had three blondes chained up in his basement many Tiger Lovers would give him a pass on that to. GOAT yes Would I take his career over Jacks, Arnie or Phil's nope. All Tiger can say he is good at golf

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05-16-2013 , 12:45 PM
Interesting couple of lines from Harig's column re: Woods drop on 14

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Perhaps most telling was Golf Channel's paraphrased discussion Tuesday with Rolfing, the NBC on-course reporter. He said he heard Woods ask Wittenberg if he should drop back as they were walking off the tee. Wittenberg said no, the drop should occur ahead near the hazard stake.

That is an interesting exchange, one that deserves airing and suggests Woods was not trying to negotiate a better drop with Wittenberg.
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05-16-2013 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by POKEROMGLOL
Oh by the way, he hasn't won a major since 2008, and it took a playoff to beat ROCCO MEDIATE. Are we really that impressed?
ROCCO MEDIATE beat every other player that week.
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05-16-2013 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
Please explain why he is an "awful human".

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Because he curses on the course and flips, bangs, or kicks a club now and then? News flash - ton of pros do this. They simply aren't televised when they do, or receive a half-paragraph of press the handful of times they do end up getting mentioned. I've seen numerous people do the same things in front of me at events I've gone to.
There are thousands of murderers out there too, but some of them don't get much press. Doesn't make the ones who do get press not awful.

Tiger throws his goddamn clubs INTO THE CROWD and screams obscenities in front of children. The only two golfers I've seen scream obscenities in front of children and throw their clubs are Sabbatini and Woods. (Both Dicks). I saw Dufner treat his caddy like a slave...so there's that. In general, he's a huge dick to everybody at all times too.

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Because he cheated on his wife? Thousands of athletes before this - a number of whom of status at or close to Tiger's level - have confirmed done the same thing. Why do they escape hate?
They shouldn't. They are dicks too. Cheating on your spouse makes you pretty awful....Unless you are okay with your wife screwing other dudes too.


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He's never been linked to anything criminal, any drug or addiction problems, any abusive actions towards others, and never went off the deep end with any overly inflammatory comments.
Statutory rape: http://jjb.yuku.com/topic/610315#.UZURmEqH-So

Sex addiction: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...ticle-1.458887

Prescription Drug abuse: http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...and-pills.html

Performance enhancing drugs: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/1..._n_392224.html

Cheating: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/golf--t...140834313.html
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05-16-2013 , 01:31 PM
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Weekend at Bernie's was epic tho.
3 things died in that film: Bernie, and the careers of Jonathan SIlverman and Andrew McCarthy.
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05-16-2013 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by golfnpoker
you all miss the big picture with Sergio.

He was told his entire life he was the anointed. Tiger has completely owned him over the years, shattering his phsyche. Sergio feels he is a victim due to his twisted jealously of what Tiger has achieved, at his expense. It comes out in pressure situations. I love Sergio but he is a broken, bitter golfer, and blames Tiger.

and that is the truth. rack it.
This may be true but it would be funny if it was.

How many tournaments would Sergio have won if Tiger didn't enter?

Isn't it widely assumed that Ernie Els got shafted the most by Tiger? And he's not a jealous hater. He's even been dealt a child with autism and all Sergio has been dealt is a vagina with sand.
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05-16-2013 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
That is a stretch to Its not like the bone was sticking out

I call BS.


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05-16-2013 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Buick
The one where he ran about on a golf course handing out Buicks left and right?

I don't see how "Tiger - the family man" enters into that.

A lot of the advertisers dropped him when the scandal broke, but that doesn't mean he got the deals in the first place because he pretended to be dad of the year. The statement I questioned was that he got the deals because he falsely pretended to be a family man.
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05-16-2013 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Rod's Cousin
3 things died in that film: Bernie, and the careers of Jonathan SIlverman and Andrew McCarthy.
I actually looked up McCarthy on imdb just to point out how this was clearly not true, but... turns out you're right. All his good ones were actually pre-WAB
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05-16-2013 , 01:49 PM
@ POKEROMGLOL

Come on now, we both know the statutory rape link is obviously made up and there is no way that is true. Lol at that source

Sex addiction - ok yeah he may have had one but doesnt make him a terrible person

PEDs: Obviously not true, your article doesnt prove anyting

Cheating: yeah we all know what happened here

Prescription drugs: Sure he may be on some but do you have legit source confirming an addiction? thedailybeast is not a source lol
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05-16-2013 , 02:06 PM
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@ POKEROMGLOL

Come on now, we both know the statutory rape link is obviously made up and there is no way that is true. Lol at that source

Sex addiction - ok yeah he may have had one but doesnt make him a terrible person

PEDs: Obviously not true, your article doesnt prove anyting

Cheating: yeah we all know what happened here

Prescription drugs: Sure he may be on some but do you have legit source confirming an addiction? thedailybeast is not a source lol
I have no idea if all or none of those links are true or the validity of the sources, etc. He has been linked, quite literally, to all of those things. I'm not trying to prove anything. I think he's an awful human and I would never cheer or root for him. I understand he's a great golfer, but what I don't understand is how you can wear a Tiger Woods hat and hope he takes down a guy like Rory McIlroy at the Masters. I just have a really hard time cheering for huge *******s who cheat on their wives. I've told the story where I have personally seen Tiger be a HUGE DICK years ago at the Byron Nelson to a small kid for no reason other than he's a huge dick. For example, I thing Sergio is immature, cocky, and a golf brat, but I've seen him be really cool and genuine to kids. I think his Tiger assessment was pretty much right on, to be honest. Sure, if the NBC camera thing really was legit, his shot had nothing to do with Tiger pulling a wood out, but the other stuff was right on.

As for the "Jack was a dick too" stuff...well, that's not what we are talking about. Jack was always known as a family man and I've never heard allegations of him cheating on his wife, doing other hugely dick things. That's not to say he wasn't like that or that he doesn't play up the FAMILY MAN, NONE OF MY MAJORS MEAN ANYTHING LOVE MY FAMILY MORE angle, but I just don't have any real indication that he's a dick.

A good example is Jordan. I was a huge fanboy of Jordan back in the day and put inspirational quotes all over my wall and wanted to be like Mike and all that stuff. Turns out he is a gigantic *******. Screw him. I feel defrauded and am no longer a fan at all. Doesn't matter to me that he was great at basketball.
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05-16-2013 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by POKEROMGLOL
I have no idea if all or none of those links are true or the validity of the sources, etc. He has been linked, quite literally, to all of those things. I'm not trying to prove anything. I think he's an awful human and I would never cheer or root for him. I understand he's a great golfer, but what I don't understand is how you can wear a Tiger Woods hat and hope he takes down a guy like Rory McIlroy at the Masters. I just have a really hard time cheering for huge *******s who cheat on their wives. I've told the story where I have personally seen Tiger be a HUGE DICK years ago at the Byron Nelson to a small kid for no reason other than he's a huge dick. For example, I thing Sergio is immature, cocky, and a golf brat, but I've seen him be really cool and genuine to kids. I think his Tiger assessment was pretty much right on, to be honest. Sure, if the NBC camera thing really was legit, his shot had nothing to do with Tiger pulling a wood out, but the other stuff was right on.

As for the "Jack was a dick too" stuff...well, that's not what we are talking about. Jack was always known as a family man and I've never heard allegations of him cheating on his wife, doing other hugely dick things. That's not to say he wasn't like that or that he doesn't play up the FAMILY MAN, NONE OF MY MAJORS MEAN ANYTHING LOVE MY FAMILY MORE angle, but I just don't have any real indication that he's a dick.

A good example is Jordan. I was a huge fanboy of Jordan back in the day and put inspirational quotes all over my wall and wanted to be like Mike and all that stuff. Turns out he is a gigantic *******. Screw him. I feel defrauded and am no longer a fan at all. Doesn't matter to me that he was great at basketball.
You just have trouble separating greatness and talent from the person and I would have to think that the people that think Jack is GOAT do too. I could care less what Tiger does away from the golf course. I know he isnt near as much of a dick as you think though. Most tour pros dont really think that way about him at all. But yeah dont care either way but I like watching greatness in all sports. I cant stand Lebron James but Id never let that take away from what he does on the bball court. The guy is a freak and could very well be the best ever one day. Who knows?

Quick question though that someone may know the answer to. Does Tiger have an autograph contract meaning that he can only sign so many per year? Could very well be why he ignores people at times but people are too hard on him. He is there to win the golf tournament, not to have a book signing. He acknowledges the crowd on every single hole pretty much. That should be enough
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05-16-2013 , 02:16 PM
...and you're perfectly entitled to hate Tiger if you want. Just hate him for being a prick, not for baseless allegations of PEDs and statutory rape or whatever you want to make up. And don't let that hate cloud your judgement of his golf skills (like so many people seem to do)
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05-16-2013 , 02:30 PM
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...and you're perfectly entitled to hate Tiger if you want. Just hate him for being a prick, not for baseless allegations of PEDs and statutory rape or whatever you want to make up. And don't let that hate cloud your judgement of his golf skills (like so many people seem to do)
Has any of us that dislike Tiger questioned his overall skills. Heck three swing changes and all those victories and majors how can you?
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05-16-2013 , 02:32 PM
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Has any of us that dislike Tiger questioned his overall skills. Heck three swing changes and all those victories and majors how can you?
He also meant letting it affect your judgement when it comes to the GOAT and clearly people let their hate and dislike for Tiger get in the way
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05-16-2013 , 02:46 PM
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Has any of us that dislike Tiger questioned his overall skills. Heck three swing changes and all those victories and majors how can you?
Do i really need to remind you that you thought he would never win again post scandal?
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