Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion

11-06-2011 , 06:56 PM
Bet Tiger is wishing he would have insta fired stevie instead of getting him hooked up solid with scott first...
Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion Quote
11-06-2011 , 10:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jnsiv
Bet Tiger is wishing he would have insta fired stevie instead of getting him hooked up solid with scott first...

Wouldnt of mattered he would have been hired in a heartbeat for his experience
Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion Quote
11-06-2011 , 10:42 PM
Alan Shipnuck hits it out of the park:

Silence following Williams's racial insult shows how little golf has changed

http://www.golf.com/golf/tours_news/...in&hpt=hp_bn10
Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion Quote
11-07-2011 , 12:44 AM
What he said was definitely stupid, and only Stevie knows if he meant it as racial or not.

It's interesting to wonder what would have been said about Vijay Singh if he had said after he won the 1998 PGA that he wanted to stick it up Steve Stricker's white butt. Or if Shaq would have said he wanted to stick it up Dirk Nowitski's white butt after he won the 2006 NBA championship.

I'd like to think that the vast majority of PGA Tour members don't care one iota about skin color. Perhaps that's a figment of my ignorance because I've never cared about it. Unfortunately there are those out there who are prejudiced.

Bottom line is in this age of twitter people just talk too much and then the media blows it up. If you're a high-profile athlete just shut up and do your job. Don't talk about yourself, don't talk about others in your profession. It's not difficult.

BO
Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion Quote
11-07-2011 , 03:41 AM
Williams will remain on the bag for Scott as he competes in the Australian Open next week. He will be grouped with Tiger Woods and Jason Day for the first two rounds of the event a decision made several weeks ago.

popcorn.gif
Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion Quote
11-07-2011 , 12:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ligastar
Alan Shipnuck hits it out of the park:

Silence following Williams's racial insult shows how little golf has changed

http://www.golf.com/golf/tours_news/...in&hpt=hp_bn10
I am amazed that there are no other black players on tour. Golf is still too expensive. All that 'first tee' is posturing and pr.
Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion Quote
11-07-2011 , 01:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfnutt
I am amazed that there are no other black players on tour. Golf is still too expensive. All that 'first tee' is posturing and pr.
So you're saying all African Americans are too poor to play golf?

Don't try to make something out of nothing. Why are there no white cornerbacks in the NFL?

BO
Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion Quote
11-07-2011 , 01:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ntnBO
So you're saying all African Americans are too poor to play golf?

Don't try to make something out of nothing. Why are there no white cornerbacks in the NFL?

BO
You need thousands of people to produce one star in golf. No way to tell talent at a young age (save Tiger ironically). So overall, the economics of black people don't produce golfers. I am a pretty well off exec and golf is brutally expensive for me and I am not sure if I am going to have my kids pursue it either.
Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion Quote
11-07-2011 , 02:21 PM
The US might be different but in Ireland, it's very cheap for kids to start playing golf, Holywood, where McIlroy started is about $100 a year for 8-10 year olds and about $300 for 10-18. Pickup a cheap set of clubs and a few lessons and off you go.

From the Irish pros, the only one I know that came from a middle class background is McGinley, Harrington's father was a police sergeant, McDowell's a lab technician, McIlroy's was a barman.
Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion Quote
11-07-2011 , 02:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilko111
The US might be different but in Ireland, it's very cheap for kids to start playing golf, Holywood, where McIlroy started is about $100 a year for 8-10 year olds and about $300 for 10-18. Pickup a cheap set of clubs and a few lessons and off you go.

From the Irish pros, the only one I know that came from a middle class background is McGinley, Harrington's father was a police sergeant, McDowell's a lab technician, McIlroy's was a barman.
Excellent point. In Scotland, basically everybody plays golf regardless of status.

BO
Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion Quote
11-07-2011 , 03:16 PM
We need more black Irish Tour pros.
Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion Quote
11-07-2011 , 07:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ship---this
We need more black Irish Tour pros.
There's not a huge amount of black people in Ireland, but if a young black person in Ireland hasn't been inspired to take up the game in the last few years, then they never will.

I'm following Irish golfers for a fair few years, when Harrington won the Open, I thought, that's it, things are only downhill from here.
Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion Quote
11-07-2011 , 07:51 PM
Kudo's to Tiger at the Press Conference. Not a fan but wow likeable and handling it well. When they say no more stevie questions guys still ask the same dam question.

Also Stevie apologized in person and Tiger's words " Stevie is not a racist"

Last edited by lozen; 11-07-2011 at 07:57 PM.
Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion Quote
11-08-2011 , 01:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilko111
There's not a huge amount of black people in Ireland, but if a young black person in Ireland hasn't been inspired to take up the game in the last few years, then they never will.

I'm following Irish golfers for a fair few years, when Harrington won the Open, I thought, that's it, things are only downhill from here.
black irish is just an irish guy with a darker complexion-- possibly/partially of iberian decent. it was a jopke, i'm guessing.

(doesn't mean african descent).
Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion Quote
11-08-2011 , 01:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfnutt
I am amazed that there are no other black players on tour. Golf is still too expensive. All that 'first tee' is posturing and pr.
Charlie Sifford, Jim Dent, Calvin Peete and Lee Elder all became solid pros when golf was arguably more elitist and blacks were even less able to afford golf.
Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion Quote
11-08-2011 , 05:56 AM
If you are a black Irishman it just means you have drank too much Guinness.
Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion Quote
11-08-2011 , 06:00 AM
I think it has much less to do with $$ than it does with the fact that golf isn't a 'black sport'. I imagine a black kid would often get teased by his friends if he played golf.

Last edited by BeerMoney; 11-08-2011 at 06:00 AM. Reason: don't wanna go there............
Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion Quote
11-08-2011 , 11:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ntnBO
Why are there no white cornerbacks in the NFL?

BO
White kids are all too busy playing shuffleboard on the decks of their yachts, ldo.
Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion Quote
11-08-2011 , 12:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shemp
black irish is just an irish guy with a darker complexion-- .
I thought Black Irish was a black or very dark haired irishman...
Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion Quote
11-08-2011 , 04:10 PM
Such a stupid world.

Stupid that this is seen as a HORRIBLE racial epithet (all he did was mention the color of the butt into which he wanted to place the trophy).

Stupid also because a multi-millionaire high-profile CADDIE doesn't have the common sense to realize how this will be heard by the armchair people out in TV Land.

Just stupid.

I wish Woods would have taken the opportunity to say something like this instead:

"Listen, I don't know who appointed all of you people the guardians of my blackness or whatever, but I will thank you to get off my black jock. Steve and I, back when we were friends, used to say this and worse on a daily basis. Lighten the hell up you idiots."
Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion Quote
11-08-2011 , 06:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rushmore
Such a stupid world.

Stupid that this is seen as a HORRIBLE racial epithet (all he did was mention the color of the butt into which he wanted to place the trophy).

Stupid also because a multi-millionaire high-profile CADDIE doesn't have the common sense to realize how this will be heard by the armchair people out in TV Land.

Just stupid.

I wish Woods would have taken the opportunity to say something like this instead:

"Listen, I don't know who appointed all of you people the guardians of my blackness or whatever, but I will thank you to get off my black jock. Steve and I, back when we were friends, used to say this and worse on a daily basis. Lighten the hell up you idiots."
Yeah, but then who'd be offended. Surely SOMEONE has to be offended!!!
Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion Quote
11-08-2011 , 07:23 PM
should've said ''stuck it up his Cablinasian arse''.
Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion Quote
11-08-2011 , 07:38 PM
Much different interview from tiger than in the past, be interesting to see if this continues.

Here's the complete press conference for anyone who missed it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rknjUh70aw

Last edited by 47aces; 11-08-2011 at 07:39 PM. Reason: fixed link
Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion Quote
11-09-2011 , 02:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jnsiv
I thought Black Irish was a black or very dark haired irishman...
Yeah I always thought "black Irish" meant:

Irish
blue eyes
black hair

typically with darker skin than most but not necessary. Pierce Brosnan is a good example of "black Irish". And Feherty. These guys do good with the ladies. My two brothers and dad are all considered black Irish. I somehow got stuck with the Norman ginger hair. lol. Mom blond, little sis brown hair. With dad's silver now we've got every damn hair color covered but we've all got the same eyes.

Anyway I see old black guys playing golf all the time here in Houston. I do play a lot at cheap munis during the daytime though, but there's always old black dudes out playing and they have a good time. They seem to really enjoy hammering a little white thing 60 times a day.
Report : tiger splits with williams / tipping discussion Quote
11-09-2011 , 11:55 AM

      
m