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02-03-2013 , 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ReidLockhart
wat?
this is what it says on the score card...

u.s.g.a. rules govern all play except where modified by local rules

1. cart paths - played as obstructions:

a.) if a ball enters the cart path and bounces, it is rub of the green and shall be played from the position where it stops bouncing. if a ball enters or is on the path and it commences to roll, there are two different situations:

1.) if a ball enters of is on the path and commences rolling more than one club length down hill it must be returned to a point one club length from where it began to roll. relief can be taken from that point. drop area is provided on #15 hole. drop must be taken two club lengths from drop area sign.

2.) if a ball enters of is on the path and rolls uphill you must take the farthest advance of the ball inbounds. relief can be taken from that point. in determining the nearest point of reef under the above situations, the ball is always deemed to be at rest in the middle of the path.
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02-03-2013 , 02:44 PM
Thank you for posting that. So strange! I guess there are areas where one might gain a huge (dis)advantage from the path due to some serious hills or cart path design? I'm from flat south jersey, so I didn't immediately think about that.
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02-04-2013 , 04:43 PM
yea its a very short course but dramatic level changes and tones of o.b. both sides. some holes you can literally drop the ball on the path at the tee box and it will roll down the path to the green. on a par 4.
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02-13-2013 , 02:03 AM
Knowing the Rules of Golf can help win prizes, the following was a question from this past weekend's World's Greatest Sports Trivia competition held in St. Louis.

USGA Rule #6-7 states: “The player must play without undue delay and in accordance with any pace of play guidelines that the Committee may establish.” Violation of this rule will cost the offending player two strokes (in Stroke Play). What is the penalty for subsequent violation?

I chuckled when a player at an adjoining table complained about needing to know The Rules of Golf for a trivia contest.

Two other golf questions, which holes comprise Amen Corner and which European has appeared in the most Ryder Cups. Pretty basic stuff there.

The 99 questions and answers can be found here http://www.sportstriviachampionship....2013_QandA.pdf

BO
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02-13-2013 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ntnBO
The 99 questions and answers can be found here http://www.sportstriviachampionship....2013_QandA.pdf
Question #5: Sack #8 would've helped: link
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04-16-2013 , 11:00 PM
Quick check: playing partner tonight tried to go over an evergreen. Ball got stuck in tree but wasn't visible. Definitely never came down and was seen entering tree top about 20 feet up.

Lost ball and replay from last spot, right?
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04-16-2013 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by KenoVictoryLap
Quick check: playing partner tonight tried to go over an evergreen. Ball got stuck in tree but wasn't visible. Definitely never came down and was seen entering tree top about 20 feet up.

Lost ball and replay from last spot, right?
Yep.

BO
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04-17-2013 , 01:13 AM
amen
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Originally Posted by ntnBO
Knowing the Rules of Golf can help win prizes, the following was a question from this past weekend's World's Greatest Sports Trivia competition held in St. Louis.

USGA Rule #6-7 states: “The player must play without undue delay and in accordance with any pace of play guidelines that the Committee may establish.” Violation of this rule will cost the offending player two strokes (in Stroke Play). What is the penalty for subsequent violation?

I chuckled when a player at an adjoining table complained about needing to know The Rules of Golf for a trivia contest.

Two other golf questions, which holes comprise Amen Corner and which European has appeared in the most Ryder Cups. Pretty basic stuff there.

The 99 questions and answers can be found here http://www.sportstriviachampionship....2013_QandA.pdf

BO
amen corner duh

Westwood has racked them up recently. he's been in like 8?
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05-20-2013 , 04:24 PM
What do the rules say about the situation that occurred last weekend in Bulgaria? What are your options if your tee shot lands in the toilet bowl?
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05-20-2013 , 06:42 PM
If it's in bounds, then it should be an immovable obstruction and you get relief.

If it's OB, you have to rehit, obviously.
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05-21-2013 , 12:44 PM


Shot #1:
Drives straight into the front of the water
Shot #2:
Towering shot. We hear it hit the trees. Most likely stayed in the trees or maybe in the water.
Shot #3:
Straight into the water, about 180 yards in
Shot #4:
long towering fade shot. Everyone agrees it most likely fell in the water (where it is labeled on the pic), but no one actually saw it

The red squares are designated drop areas. (labeled D1 & D2).
Red stakes were present along the side of the water.

Question #1:
Does this body of water count as a "Lateral Water Hazard"?

Question #2:
Where would the second shot be taken from? (for each shot)
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05-21-2013 , 12:49 PM
pic is sideways. couldn't rotate it. sorry about that.
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06-08-2013 , 03:34 PM
OK your in the bunker and have not grounded your club as you pull it back in your swing your brush the sand. You never stop your swing Penalty Stroke?

I did that today and was unsure. Took the penalty as my one buddy said yes.
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06-08-2013 , 03:54 PM
I can't remember the rule's wording off the top of my head, but yes it is a penalty.
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06-11-2013 , 07:37 PM
Scenario: I hit my shot 1st and it ends up off the green. Playing competitor then plays his shot. It lands off the green and leaves a mark in my intended line of play. I believe I am entitled to fix his mark off the green in this scenario because we are sure the ball mark was made after I had hit my shot?
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06-11-2013 , 08:31 PM
99.999% sure you can fix ball marks regardless of if he made it or not
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06-11-2013 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MinRaze
Scenario: I hit my shot 1st and it ends up off the green. Playing competitor then plays his shot. It lands off the green and leaves a mark in my intended line of play. I believe I am entitled to fix his mark off the green in this scenario because we are sure the ball mark was made after I had hit my shot?
Wouldnt he mark his ball and than fix his ball mark himself?
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06-11-2013 , 08:48 PM
Pretty sure the question is whether you can fix a ball mark that is OFF the green.
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06-11-2013 , 09:03 PM
You are entitled to the lie, line, and stance when your ball came to rest (part of the equity decisions). So yes, you can repair your opponent's pitch mark even if it's off the green.
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06-12-2013 , 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Rexx
You are entitled to the lie, line, and stance when your ball came to rest (part of the equity decisions). So yes, you can repair your opponent's pitch mark even if it's off the green.
This was my understanding also but it lead to a friendly post round bar argument. What about if my ball is on the fringe and someone hits a subsequent bunker shot and a bunch of sand lands on the fringe? Can I remove the sand that's off the green but in my line? I've been told bunker sand is not considered a loose impediment and therefore can not be removed when off the green.
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06-12-2013 , 07:24 AM
Yep... you can remove the sand as well in this case. Hopefully, you got some free beer(s) from these debates.

Edit: You can also lift, clean, and place your ball if there is sand on it.

Disclaimer: I'm not a rules official, but I have read the USGA Rules Book.

Last edited by Rexx; 06-12-2013 at 07:38 AM.
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06-12-2013 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Rexx
Yep... you can remove the sand as well in this case. Hopefully, you got some free beer(s) from these debates.

Edit: You can also lift, clean, and place your ball if there is sand on it.

Disclaimer: I'm not a rules official, but I have read the USGA Rules Book.
Thanks Rexx...sounds like the free beers will be claimed at the next game.
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08-10-2013 , 09:29 PM
Suppose your ball is on the edge of a cart path. On the side that is the nearest point of relief there is about 18 inches of grass and then a water hazard. There is room to drop the ball in the grass, but hitting it will require standing in the hazard.

Do you have to drop the ball (if you decide to take a drop) in the spot that will require you to stand in the hazard? Or can you drop on the opposite side of the path?
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08-12-2013 , 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
Suppose your ball is on the edge of a cart path. On the side that is the nearest point of relief there is about 18 inches of grass and then a water hazard. There is room to drop the ball in the grass, but hitting it will require standing in the hazard.

Do you have to drop the ball (if you decide to take a drop) in the spot that will require you to stand in the hazard? Or can you drop on the opposite side of the path?
Nearly certain you have to drop in the grass even if that means standing in the hazard. It's all about lie of ball once you take complete relief from an obstruction.

BO
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08-12-2013 , 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ntnBO
Nearly certain you have to drop in the grass even if that means standing in the hazard. It's all about lie of ball once you take complete relief from an obstruction.

BO
I was going to post the same thing but wasn't sure if standing in a hazard means you don't have "complete relief." I think you can always play from where it lies; IIRC taking relief isn't mandatory.
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