‘Crazy amount of money’: Rookie pro reveals LIV Golf’s recruitment tactics
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Pierceson said he took comfort from his close friends and North Texas role models, Will Zalatoris, Scottie Scheffler and Jordan Spieth, all of whom have remained committed to the PGA Tour.
“I know all of those guys and if they believe in the PGA Tour and believe what it stands for and what they’re doing, then I think I made the right decision,” he said.
no problem. i found it enlightening and am interested in learning more about LIV tactics. i hope the PGA Tour is doing the same to come up with counter strategies. for example, perhaps a fast-track to PGA Tour membership should be created for the top dozen or so NCAA golfers each season.
the leaders of Saudi Arabia, and there doctrine of Wahhabism, has been a cancer on the world for centuries. now these same ppl want to bring a cancer to the game of golf. no thank you.
i hope the PGA Tour is doing the same to come up with counter strategies. for example, perhaps a fast-track to PGA Tour membership should be created for the top dozen or so NCAA golfers each season.
They've already been doing this for a few years now.
I think two things the PGA Tour needs to very concerned about
LIV Tour getting WGR points
LIV Tour getting a TV deal
Without those two I just can not see it succeeding
I stand by my prediction that Liv will be on Fox at some point soon (perhaps not the main network, maybe Fox Sports). They seem to be a perfect fit and Fox would probably like to add golf to their properties.
The Saudis are throwing around so much money that Fox could probably get rights for a song and be at very little financial risk.
Regardless though I still think Liv is a joke that is not a long term threat to the PGA. It may be like a USFL, except that it lasts longer because the owners don't care if it makes.money.
Yeah, I have thought about the parallel between the independent football leagues and LIV. Independent football never works. And LIV has the additional onus of being Saudi backed. It would be interesting to see what the response to LIV would be if it were an "approved" country or organization. That said, I don't see LIV surviving and then all the players who want back into the PGA are going to get screwed over.
They've already been doing this for a few years now.
is that so? then why is Pierceson Coody grinding KFT events and not playing PGA Tour events? he finished at (or near) the top of the Velocity Global Rankings?
as i mentioned, i'm talking about PGA Tour status. KFT status isn't going to be enough to stop some of these guys from jumping.
I looked it up. Possibly worst name for a tour ever, gotta admit. If you are old enough, you still cannot say the name of the game some idiot call Cornhole without laughing. As a name, LIV is better. Holy crap. LOL. I wonder what they consult on. And I guarantee that whoever named "corn hole" had no idea what they were doing. That said, there is a food product now called Soylent Green and a drug called Soma. History is just gone.
is that so? then why is Pierceson Coody grinding KFT events and not playing PGA Tour events? he finished at (or near) the top of the Velocity Global Rankings?
as i mentioned, i'm talking about PGA Tour status. KFT status isn't going to be enough to stop some of these guys from jumping.
True enough. But we both know basically the only way onto the PGA Tour these days is through the KFT. IMO, that’s giving 15 college players a pretty big head start. Of course nothing like the funny money LIV is trying to buy players with. They did nab the Okie State stud today for 3 years.
That article about Pierceson Coody is really interesting. It is such a tough decision because there is zero guarantee he makes it on the PGA Tour. If he flames out without ever making it, he may think about the millions Liv offered plus the chance to make more against weaker competition.
I am glad he said no, good for him... I am just saying it has to be even tougher for someone like that, than it would be for an established player already making an extremely good living on the PGA Tour.
True enough. But we both know basically the only way onto the PGA Tour these days is through the KFT. IMO, that’s giving 15 college players a pretty big head start. Of course nothing like the funny money LIV is trying to buy players with. They did nab the Okie State stud today for 3 years.
yeah nabbing Chacarra is a big get. he is a character on the course and exhibits a ton of passion during a golf round. sigh
Not a fan of Reed but he makes some good points. Other sports athletes still get paid while they are hurt, golfers don't.
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"You're able to actually now set out a schedule, go out and put all you have in every single event. You're not having to conserve energy ever...if you took off any period of time because you needed it for your body, you're behind now. Everyone is going to pass you in FedEx. It was forcing you to have to play, and that's not doing anything for you mentally and physically. That's wearing you down, and you do that every single year and no wonder why guys are injured in their 30s and why guys are mentally tired and you just see the grind on them because they're having to grind every single week."
Great point about what Reed said and I also am not a fan, I am from Augusta and remember him back in the day. But, he isn't wrong here. These guys have no insurance and no backing from their team (which the PGA should be for them).
No question that pro golfers peak, and trail off for various reasons.
In a merit-based system, you play well or you fall down the ladder and eventually are replaced. Up until a few years ago LPGA was able to keep a lot of their older players around thru various means when they were not truly competitive. That has changed, though, and younger players have more opportunity to qualify and establish themselves at the expense of older players moving on.
PGA Tour also keeps less competitive players around to some degree. The fact that some events have trouble filling (when you see Tommy Gainey or John Rollins playing you know that is the case) means that the Tour provides opportunities for these less competitive players to continue to make $ and sustain some kind of career.
No question that the PGA Tour is bifurcated into at least 2, more like 3 levels of players.
I can see a day when the compensation profile of pro "tour" golf changes from a merit-based system to a contract-based system similar to MLB and the other major leagues. I imagine the source of $ will be the TV networks, with charities forced out, or at least significantly diminished. The big tour events will represent something akin to All-Star games where players earn entry thru either fan voting or qualify thru performance or other metrics.
Players want control, and a lot of them don't see the PGA Tour as that avenue.
This is a story about MBS and Patrick Reed
Two young lovers with nothin' that will succeed
They sit around the house, get high, and watch the tube
And here is what happened when they decided to cut loose
They headed down to, ooh, old Trump National
That's where they ran into a great big hassle
MBS cut up a man while invading his castle
Patrick Reed took the money and run
Great point about what Reed said and I also am not a fan, I am from Augusta and remember him back in the day. But, he isn't wrong here. These guys have no insurance and no backing from their team (which the PGA should be for them).
Could be wrong but I think some purchase their own insurance. An example of this would be Anthony Kim but if he tees it up in a competitive round again that money is gone. But ya for majority of guys there is no fall back plan.
Major-less Matt Kuchar wins a bronze medal in the Olympics, and is bragging around the locker room that major mega-champs Woods and Mickelson don't have an Olympic medal. PHIL invites Michael Phelps to a tournament and introduces him to Kuch: "Matt, this is Michael Phelps. Show him your bronze medal ... he's never seen one."
