This thread told me the only people playing for LIV are people who can't win on the PGA tour anymore or were never good enough in the first place. Which category are we putting Rahm in?

“Will our lifestyle change if I got $400 million? No, it will not change one bit,” he said. “Truth be told, I could retire right now with what I’ve made and live a very happy life and not play golf again. So I’ve never really played the game of golf for monetary reasons. I play for the love of the game, and I want to play against the best in the world. I’ve always been interested in history and legacy, and right now the PGA Tour has that”

“To be honest, part of the (LIV) format is not really appealing to me. Shotgun three days to me is not a golf tournament, no cut. It’s that simple,” Rahm said at the 2022 U.S. Open. “I want to play against the best in the world in a format that’s been going on for hundreds of years”

With this aged well like all the anti-LIV posts itt.

Jon Rahm will be captain of his own team. I doubt he’s taking guys that have to go through the LIV qualifying tourney. He and Finau are supposedly good friends. Maybe he comes too, and the Hojgaards, Meronk, Min Woo or some of those guys that split the eurotard and pga tour. Cam Davis is another one that I can see coming. More are coming for sure that are actual big names.

When the LIV bots pound the same exact tune for 18 months they eventually will be right. Congrats??

All I’ve ever said to the anti-LIV crowd is that it’s going nowhere and will continue to grow and get talented players. That and don’t watch if you don’t like it. Meanwhile the anti-LIV crowd has been wrong on every prediction so far bc they can’t stop obsessing over a league that they claim to hate and not even watch.

Handwriting was on the wall when Rahm de-committed on that tent simulator money grab.

He plays 4 times a year against the best in the world in the only events that matter anymore.

Apparently more top golfers than I thought are nothing but money grabbing whores. Sad. Professional golfers used to hold themselves to a higher standard than athletes in other sports.

It’s the fake fealty I can’t take, stand up for the tour in public ala Phil and DJ, but when the bag gets big enough they give in and suck the dick.

Are they going to add a 13th team and have 52 players now?

Norman's dick no less.

Rahm already said in his interview yesterday that he always loved team golf growing up in Spain, and part of the appeal was what LIV had to offer and the chance to LEAD a team. So he's definitely coming to join any existing team.

My guess is he will have his own team immediately (as that's where the money is in being Captain of the team and percentage money rights), and maybe a 2nd other is added this year. I think their goal was 15 overall max, but who knows.

There’s no guess, he will captain a team and have part ownership. Adding a 13th team changes quite a few things from a practical point of view.

I suppose the team limit would be whatever number they can get on the course and still make the shotgun starts work.

Perhaps that is what you said but this is not true of the vast majority of LIVtards on social media predicting teams would sell for $2B etc


tbf virtually no one is watching Ant-LIV or not...about that prediction we were correct

Yes once LIV gets Adrian Meronk and Rasmus Hojgaard the ratings will Soar

Finau all but confirmed, Hatton deep in negotiations.

Looks that way especially based on his Cameron Smith like evasiveness this weekend.

He might need the bag to settle the two lawsuits totaling 20 million against him.

I don't pretend to be able predict the future, but Liv already had Phil, Bryson, Brooks, DJ, Cam, etc... and still nobody watched. I don't see Rahm or Finau or anyone else not named Tiger or Rory suddenly changing that.

Golf is a weird niche sport. Aside from majors the overall audience just isn't that big, and they aren't fanatically into it the way football or baseball fans are. People just turn on the golf and watch for a while because it's on and they like golf.

It's why I don't see team golf ever catching on. They've tried it with tennis a bunch of times over the years and there just isn't the interest. These are individual sports.

Not to say losing Rahm or Finau doesn't hurt the PGA, it does. But it's not going to bring big ratings to Liv. No one will think about Rahm until we see him at the majors, just like no one knows or cares how well Brooks did on Liv last year.

Tennis is a way different sport than golf. It's 1v1 or 2v2. Team golf has a bunch of interesting scenarios that can play out and it's played at every level except professionally. The success of things like the Ryder Cup is proof team golf can be intriguing. Whether or not that happens is anyone's guess, but 2 years ago nobody would have predicted what has happened in professional golf landscape and the amount of talent would be part of LIV.

well put revots. echoing my sentiments to a "T"

texted two of my golf buddies a few days ago and said professional men's golf is doing a good job of pushing me away from their game (not me personally playing the sport, but following the sport and devoting time to watching events on TV). they both replied "same"

i've gravitated towards watching more coverage of college events the past few yrs and i've always enjoyed coverage of all the fringe USGA Am events. my overall viewership of golf will go down + more hrs that i do watch will be devoted to amateur events

i'll also add i enjoy watching LPGA events and will continue my normal viewership habits for that product

See I think you are confusing the talent leaving for LIV as something to do with the quality of the league or its format. It is neither of those things in the least

It’s simply PIF spending like a drunken sailor. That’s it. Without that fact they literally have nothing.

Team values, sponsorships, equity in the product, etc…none of that would matter

If Livtards are ok that then so be it. Just be honest about it

Well they’re too good for the eurotard tour at this point and are now on the PGA. I just said they’re young and talented and would be good long term guys to bring on board. Meronk basically debunked going to LIV though recently.

Lol this is some joint venture that has been agreed to between PGA and LIV. All the talent is just leaving and going to LIV. Unless I missed something, 7-15 major wins since 2020 are LIV now. Good luck having Brian Harman and Wyndham Clark ever win another one. What’s it going to take for the PGA to drop their silly line in the sand of playing a LIV event disqualifies you from the PGA nonsense? About 90% of the tournaments LIV hosted were against PGA events that none of the top players played in anyways. It’s the dumbest thing the PGA ever did.

Also I’ve always liked the PGA Tour and the broadcast and don’t want to see it go away bc LIV takes over. When the Honda Classic is on, I’m tuning into LIV. When a big event on the PGA is on and it’s one of the rare times LIV scheduled simultaneously against the PGA Tour , then I’m watching the PGA Tour. Probably 75% of the time I’m watching the PGA Tour, but they have a lot of duds where there’s nothing wrong with flipping to LIV.

I don't think the strategy is to sign some more big name players, and then get killer ratings for CW broadcasts.

The thing holding LIV back is being blocked from contracts with major networks, and lack of OWGR points which leads to players being out of majors. If they can suck enough good players away from the PGAT, then they can eventually get the leverage to get on a major network and get their players into majors. Once they achieve that then they have the opportunity to grow viewership for LIV.

In a strange twist ratings/interest for majors will likely get better after this. Masters will become the clear premier major event.

Count me a golf fan, but even I don't care who won xyz tournament last year. Like tennis, majors are all that matter anymore.

Cancel Finau, looks like he's staying on the PGAT.

Hatton packs his bags and signs up.

Not a shocker as he was rumored for a while, and is a much bigger get that the supposed news of Adri Arnaus a few weeks ago. He was good for about 6 months 2 years ago. He and Rahm are supposed to be close and was predicted to join.

I keep waiting for somebody like Day or Rickie to be next as the prime earning years are 100% gone and they should just take the money. At this point I don't see it being Cantlay or Xander as rumored since the first year. You would figure that they would have gone by now.