the urge to collect dopamine jolts from online interactions instead of being kind to the people who are physically around you

The first part about voting is dumb as ****, but as to the second part, yeah, it's pretty shitty and I don't like it.

What is WAY weirder than judging golfers for taking the money is how passionate you are in favor of it. You've shown more "outrage" than anyone speaking against it.

interesting read: https://www.sportinglife.com/golf/ne...rnament/201425

^^^^^

yep. good read. thx for posting red

Clearly 78 golfers can play a shotgun start (18 A groups + 8 B groups). Even easier with 144 and invitational sized fields.

Shotgun starts allow for significantly faster play than the traditional #1 tee start, and marginally faster play then #1/#10 start, as most holes only have a single group playing. The principal advantages though are dealing with suspended rounds due to weather, and all players essentially playing Saturday and Sunday rounds in the same conditions (weather and greens).

Of course shotgun start would be more difficult logistically for TV production, as there is no "finishing hole" so to speak, and covering all players would require more cameras as everybody is playing at the same time (at least on the weekend).

... otherwise known as alienation stemming from self-alienation.

I'll predict a big cheating scandal involving Reed, where he takes the equivalent of an Alford plea and everything keeps right on truckin' like it never happened. Yup, it's happening.

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Good share. I haven’t found anything about the team rigging, only mentions like this without detail…what’s the story there?

it was rigged. they ensured an all ENG and RSA team would be formed. 'team captain' Oosthuizen's draft instructions were leaked and it indicated who he was to pick and in what round. i can't find the leaked pic now.

It just goes to show what a joke Liv is. The "draft" is a joke. It would not matter if there wasn't a large amount of money at stake for the team portion, but in this case it just shows that no one with Liv really cares about any type of integrity. They are all making bank and could care less.

I recommend checking out Rory and Rahm's US Open press conferences from today. They both gave very thoughtful and persuasive reasons why the PGA Tour and its history matters. If it's all about money then who cares? We know they're all millionaires.

Not a fan of LIV or Saudi Arabia, but it raises some very interesting points:

1. A case study in how monopolies (PGA Tour) behave when there is any competition.

2. How many LIV critics own a phone made by a slave labor factory in China that has suicide nets?

3. The US has been in bed with the Saudis for decades, why is this all of a sudden bad?

4. Why is Saudi Arabia worse than China? Kissing China butt is the norm in sports.

And I could go on with examples of US executing people and starting wars, yet no one takes away Jeff Bezos' yacht or bans Americans from everything.

My biggest questions regarding golf and LIV is how will world rankings now be determined and what will Augusta National do in regard to its invitations?

I know you think those are great arguments. They’re not.

whataboutery!
let's all just throw up our hands and quit trying to care about anything

another group's perspective
https://911familiesunited.org/9-11-f...-saudi-arabia/

just listened to Koepka's presser today

he gone

gut tells me he announces for LIV next week

They could play like sixteen shotgun and the last couple with the leaders together. Don't think it matters a ton watching on tv though

It's the obvious choice for him given what he has spoken about in the past. He basically say's he only really turns up for the majors. He wants shorter tournaments and play less if I remember correctly

Thanks for sharing - pure gold :-)

Come Saturday's final round, the question was would Schwartzel win as expected or might Hennie Du Plessis or Peter Uihlein catch him. When Greg Norman signed up to be the face of LIV Golf, such a scenario would've been close to worst-case.

Saturday's final round, the only one I sat through, was a conveyor belt of nonsense, which I'll try to sum up quickly. First, just after I'd tuned in, someone said 'it's a masterclass from Schwartzel and Du Plessis', who at the time had played seven holes each and hadn't made a birdie.

LIV players are simply being paid (a lot) to dance in front of Saudi princes. When the princes get bored with looking at them dance, the "tour" is over.

I dunno, I suppose that "kill off the PGA Tour then we'll figure out a profitable business model" is technically a viable business plan.

I was responding to this:
The logic supporting faster play for shotgun starts is the same as faster play for #1/#10 tee starts. The groups are staggered on separate holes instead of lined up starting behind other groups on #1. I noted 78 golfers per flight can still use a SG format but with 8 B groups. I have no idea what LIV did IRT their tournament, but it's probably safe to ignore any of their attempts at running a smooth running event, SG start or not.

At the risk of repeating myself, yes, because SG does not have a single finishing hole TV production becomes problematic, along with the additional crews required for all 18 holes of simultaneous coverage.

ntnbo is 100% correct with the problems of 78 (or 72, or whatever) players warming up at the same time. IMO this is the single biggest non-starter for SG starts.

Does fairness of playing at the same time and faster play outweigh TV production issues and logistical challenges of warming up and getting to the tee? Nope.

100% agree. His rant made that fairly obvious. I posted in the other thread that it would make sense for him to at least consider the move, as his brother is in LIV and his game is fading.

Phil takes his $200 million retirement parachute and rides into infamy. I still haven't read the book. Don't know if he's coming across like a gambling sicko that really did lose tens of millions, or just a whale splashing around with money and income to burn. I remember his arrogant sounding comment after I think the Tiger match: showing a $100 bill saying, "I made 90,000 of these yesterday." Wow ... that's an eye opener. There are huge, huge, huge levels of gambling that just don't amount to a hill of beans with this kind of income. So I'm very skeptical about it being destructive gambling as compared to just whale shyt.

Agreed but they will have wheelbarrows full of cash and the PGA will take them back after the LIV folds

Yet the USA will keep giving MBS what ever he wants in the way of weapons to commit bigger atrocities than Russia is carrying out on Yemen that no one will care about.