The USGA has an exceptional score document that lists the probabilities of certain handicaps shooting less than their course handicap.

Unfortunately it only goes to 10 below target score. Assuming the guys course handicap (not his index) was 18 and a par 72 course, he shot 14 shots less than his target. Which I'm guessing is something like a literal million to one shot for a legit 18.

Rory folding.

AROD - 28 handicap lololol, get out and practice just a few times a year and I think you could get below a 20 pretty easily

All the "x handicap should never shoot y" talk is kind of pointless without the context of rating/slope. Plus I imagine the amateurs were playing a much shorter course than the pros, maybe 6200 yards or so. So long as the crowd doesn't freak them out - and most of them are loaded and probably play every year - it's not out of the question for them to have a great round since as noted they've probably had a ton of lessons and practice prior to the event.

Not to mention, they will take a ton of heat at their home course for a low round whether they're sandbaggers or not. No low round goes unpunished (unless it goes undiscovered).

Tony Romo and Jordan Spieth shot 29 under par.
Jordon Spieth shot 8 under par.
Tony Romo is a scratch.
Does that mean that Romo went 21 under GROSS on holes not used by Spieth?

Clearly not. Imagine a scenario where Spieth made 29 birdies and 21 bogies. That would be -8 for him, and Romo could have made par on the 21 bogey holes, for a team best ball of -29. Obviously that's not what happened in reality.

But I believe I heard on the broadcast yesterday that Romo had made 13-14 birdies and an eagle over the first 3 days. So give him similar stats on Sunday and he might have contributed 20+ birdies to the team score. Give a long hitting scratch-ish player pro-am tees and good greens and you would expect him to take it deep though.

Damn. So Romo really is better at golf than at football.

You are right. Spieth had 9 bogies and 1 double. That must mean that Romo, at a minimum, went 18 under on those other holes. 16 birdies and an eagle without taking into account that he probably birdied some of the same holes Spieth did as well.

Pretty incredible. How much shorter though are the am tees?

Romo legit great golfer.

I wonder if he blew up a few holes. Even still, his ability to score must be pretty legit.

John Daly

according the the USGA the odds of a 18 handicapper shooting ten under his course handicap is 37,000 to one. Who knows what shooting -14 is...

True story at a NCGA ( northern California Golf association) tourney an 18 capper shot 72 at Poppy Hills. They gave him his trophy and banned him for life at any future NCGA events.

Pebble is only 6800ish from the tips, and the other two courses are less than 7000, so I'm guessing the am's played it sub 6300 at least, and maybe closer to 6000. A pitch and putt for Romo, essentially par 68's for him.

Still, Pebble is a tough course even when it's playing shorter, right? Everything is sloped like crazy and the greens are not easy to putt on.

I used to play in a golf league with two halves to the season. We would have guys that might lose their first two matches of the first half and then tank the rest of the half shooting 60+ for 9 holes every week. Let their handicap inflate and then in the second half you couldn't beat them.

They were legit 11-12s getting a shot on every hole on myself and my partner who were both 9s.

that's just wrong. The industrial league I play in the pro has a rolling 3 round ( nine holes) handicap system. Say for three rounds you score 42,50,48 the total is 140. He looks at his table and would say 140 is a 11 for nine holes. next score the 42 would drop out and the new nine added. Caveat is you cannot gain more then two strokes from one week to the next, but you can drop as many as six strokes from week too week.

Is there money involved in this league? 1) I have no idea why these guys weren't constantly called out on this ridiculous behavior, and 2) it's amazing how they have no pride whatsoever, not to mention being blatant cheaters.

I'm guessing it's not a money league because I may lose to these guys once but I'd never play in the same league with them again.

pebble for men,

White 71 71.3 132 6101


spyglass

White 72 72.2 132 6128

MPCC

they played the Shore but its set up different for the tourney this is probably close.

Black/Blue (Shore) 71 70.8 128 6189

Spyglass most difficult then Pebble then MPCC.

on #2 last year on sunday romo had to be at least 80 yards past mickelson, i thought it was closer to 100. i think the am tees were 50 yards up. mickelson puts it through small opening with 3i while romo pushed 7 or 8i

Three-club courses. 3 wood, PW, and putter.

Most of these guys have ego handicaps. There are some sandbaggers, but most have probably never had to finish every putt/hole in their lives and have sycophants give them whatever score they want.

Anybody really believe Jack Nicholson shot a 64 at Lakeside Country Club?

How well did you play at your best?
I peaked six or seven years ago. Played around par for a couple months. I've always been a good putter, on a good day, anyway. That goes back to the miniature golf. My best round ever? I shot 64 at Lakeside. With witnesses, fortunately. That was a total anomaly. Missed two greens all day, got up and down both times.

http://www.golfdigest.com/magazine/2...#ixzz2KdMTbbSJ

If I'm reading that right though #2 at Pebble probably plays as a par-4 for amateurs (it's listed as a par 71 for them and that's by far the most likely par-5 to play as a four, as it has in the past in the Open for the pros), which is relevant from a to-par perspective for the team.

Of course, them playing it as a four may then make it one of the harder holes on the course in which case a lot of them will be getting a stroke there, so for many of them it's effectively no different other than the reallocation of a stroke hole from somewhere else.

On some GC show Romo was on and he said he plays to a +3

Peaked 5 year ago, hdcp of like 2, low round 68. I suck now, no money or time

It was a money league, they were booted the next year. They played really bad the first few weeks and then made up some BS about how they where just starting to get their games in gear in the second half.

The good news is they were both really bad poker players.

Peaked at a 17 handicap 10 years ago and needed a bogey to break 80 on 18. Before I tee off my buddy says " wow if you get a bogey or better youll break 80" Shot 81

Now a 25 Handicap at best. Still love playing though

best handicap was also a 17. that is where i'm currently at. however, my sticks are back in the States and i'm in Prague. less chances at playing now.