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09-15-2013 , 11:44 AM
The best part is if he had called a rules official and told him it oscillated I'm quite sure the ruling would have been final. Then the haters would be the ones going bonkers in here.
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09-15-2013 , 12:21 PM
I am not a tiger hater at all, but the hesitating body language in the video is a pretty good giveaway imo.
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09-15-2013 , 12:39 PM
What kind of body language are you supposed to have when you're hesitant?
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09-15-2013 , 12:48 PM
It's obvious "oh ****" hesitating body language right after the ball moves. It's possible he still believes it was just oscillating, but at the very least it's clear he wasn't at all confident in that determination.
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09-15-2013 , 01:12 PM
It's like my Jenga comment. As soon as you discover that what you're pulling on is going to cause everything to crumble, you hesitate and stop pulling on it before it does. It's still an "Oh ****!" movement even if you just see it oscillate.
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09-15-2013 , 01:39 PM
Play suspended. I can feel a lift, clean, and place 59 for Tiger. Legal cheating.
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09-15-2013 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MaliceUW
It's obvious "oh ****" hesitating body language right after the ball moves. It's possible he still believes it was just oscillating, but at the very least it's clear he wasn't at all confident in that determination.
THIS. That was a pretty clear "whoops" hesitation from him, followed by a "let's just act like nothing happened". Should have called a rules official or at least checked with the cameraman imo. I'm a huge fanboi, and there is just no way to defend this one as it's a pretty clear cheatish move from Tiger.
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09-15-2013 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by tzwien
Play suspended. I can feel a lift, clean, and place 59 for Tiger. Legal cheating.


Impossible for them to play lift, clean, and place as the round started without it in place.
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09-15-2013 , 03:10 PM
Ricky Fowlers rainsuit is hot. Looks like an Augusta caddie suit.
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09-15-2013 , 03:26 PM
The ball clearly moved.

Lol at this youtube comment

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ItsVideos för 7 minuter sedan
1. TW has a bit of golf experience and knows all about this rule.
2. TW knows cameras are following his every move.
3. TW started pulling away the loose impediment, and stopped when the ball moved.
4. TW continued to play as if no ball movement occurred, knowing he could use the "oscillation" excuse if he needed to.
5. TW knows about the $10 million Fedex Cup 1st place prize.
TW is a sociopath. With $10 million+ on the line, what he did was borderline criminal. DQ!! and handcuffs!!!
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09-15-2013 , 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Rod's Cousin
I cannot afford to get mad in this forum so no I am not mad. The last 2 times I've been banned on 2p2 were for:

Exiled from OOT for defending my owning of cheap televisions in a FRUGAL thread. While multiple other posters were destructive and constantly attacked me.
2-day ban from Golf for defending my usage of a 3iron, from a mod who admittedly didn't even read the thread, but instead chose to trust some guy nobody has heard of with 400 posts reporting me because he thought I "must be trolling". While I was simply defending myself (and a few people actually agreed with me).

I'm not talking about Rory anymore. I said my case. I just think winning 2 majors by 8 shots apiece in THIS era (after bouncing back from a dreadful Masters - remember what people were saying about him after that??? I can quote posts......) is a level of talent that is truly uncommon. Think about this: If you think he's 2 strokes per round worse now than he was just 1 year ago...he would still be a serious threat to win majors.

I will gladly bet my LIFE that he'll never reach 78 wins and 14 majors like Tiger, because with the parity on Tour now (and, presumably, in the future) is too strong. I never meant to imply he was JACK or TIGER but he is definitely a threat to win more majors that's for sure. And his ceiling is still like 6-10 majors minimum.

Wow - only just saw this - so you think someone having only 400 posts makes someone a worse poster than you?

I made a post to try to make up with you, but I guess you never saw it.

I have made several thousand posts at a couple of other poker forums - ran and played in a few leagues and stuff. That's why I had a lot of posts mainly.

Not made many here because I don't play much poker any more, and the other forums I posted at are now pretty much dead.

I bet that I have a better low percentage of bad posts here than you do across the forums. Mostly because I don't just post for the sake of it.

Re-read my PM reply to you.

GL.

Last edited by MikkeD; 09-15-2013 at 09:35 PM. Reason: Bonuswhores and Pokertips
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09-15-2013 , 09:39 PM
All I meant was generally people with 100 posts per year over a 4 year period don't have a ton of pull with mods. But when mods are out to get you, as Tuq is, they will ban you without even reading the thread, simply because somebody - anybody - said they "think you are trolling". Even though that person redacted that thought. And one poster in general here has been trolling for months without nary a "hey stop doing that BO".

Seriously, he didn't even read the thread. Just said "PHB has 50 posts so I'm gonna assume they are bad and ban him". He's the legit worst poster/mod here. Everything about Tuq screams "abusive". It's incredible that there is someone worse than Dids who mods on 2p2.
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09-15-2013 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Rod's Cousin
All I meant was generally people with 100 posts per year over a 4 year period don't have a ton of pull with mods. But when mods are out to get you, as Tuq is, they will ban you without even reading the thread, simply because somebody - anybody - said they "think you are trolling". Even though that person redacted that thought. And one poster in general here has been trolling for months without nary a "hey stop doing that BO".

Seriously, he didn't even read the thread. Just said "PHB has 50 posts so I'm gonna assume they are bad and ban him". He's the legit worst poster/mod here. Everything about Tuq screams "abusive". It's incredible that there is someone worse than Dids who mods on 2p2.
So, I must now assume that I am now not on ignore as you said I was - that you read my post about bad backs and lets get over the hassle?

That's cool with me if it is with you.

Won't mean that I might not disagree with you again though!
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09-15-2013 , 10:12 PM
Will the final round air on the golf channel live tomorrow morning ?
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09-15-2013 , 10:18 PM
Yes. At 10 AM I believe.
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09-16-2013 , 11:43 AM
Hey guys, not sure if you've heard on the broadcast but Phil Mickelson's short game is REALLY REALLY GOOD.

So good he ranked 83rd on Tour this year

Announcers would also lead you to believe he's the one of the greats from the sand as well, however he hasn't cracked the top 25 in that category for 5 years.
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09-16-2013 , 12:18 PM
can i get a slowmo iphone replay of that "relief" from the grandstand please????
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09-16-2013 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by NxtWrldChamp
Hey guys, not sure if you've heard on the broadcast but Phil Mickelson's short game is REALLY REALLY GOOD.

So good he ranked 83rd on Tour this year

Announcers would also lead you to believe he's the one of the greats from the sand as well, however he hasn't cracked the top 25 in that category for 5 years.
Has he consistently been ranked this low? Not trolling just have no idea and too lazy too look up. And what specific category is this?

I do think Phil was/is very creative and when he is on seems to be ridic on/around the greens. I also think people remember the absurd flop shots, short sided up and downs, etc. and that is the basis for their observations about his short game. I remember 5-6 years ago when he was a disaster from 3-6 feet and people still talked about his as one of the best putters in the game and that obv did not compute. Of course, I am not using any stats either to back up my claim here....lol
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09-16-2013 , 03:02 PM
announcers go with a narrative for each player, even if the narrative is no longer accurate (or ever was)
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09-16-2013 , 03:28 PM
The stat he's talking about is scrambling.
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09-16-2013 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by NxtWrldChamp
Hey guys, not sure if you've heard on the broadcast but Phil Mickelson's short game is REALLY REALLY GOOD.

So good he ranked 83rd on Tour this year

Announcers would also lead you to believe he's the one of the greats from the sand as well, however he hasn't cracked the top 25 in that category for 5 years.
You do realize that you can't just use Scrambling or Sand Saves to determine how good a guy is at something, right? Phil plays harder golf courses on a year-by-year basis than anybody but probably Tiger and the European Tour guys who come over for Majors. Neither stat controls for difficulty of lie, distance to the pin, difficulty of course, or putting ability.

*none of the above paragraph should be construed as agreement with any part of the Phil Narrative btw
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09-16-2013 , 03:58 PM
And that Jim is why you aren't on the President's Cup team.
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09-16-2013 , 04:49 PM
Did Stenson break his driver?
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09-16-2013 , 05:29 PM
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Did Stenson break his driver?
Yes.
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09-16-2013 , 06:08 PM
I love how ZJ waited until he was a few minutes into his interview before mentioning the Lord. You know the haters were expecting it right out of the gate, then just when they think they are safe he hits them between the eyes with it.
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