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05-23-2013 , 01:45 AM
So like, I agree that it was a racist thing to say and that he should apologize for it, but doesn't anyone else think he was actually making fun of Fuzzy's foot-in-mouth commentary from 16 years ago...and that it was just a joke in really poor taste?
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05-23-2013 , 02:11 AM
No, just you.
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05-23-2013 , 02:36 AM
It's funny because it's NOT funny!!!!


(I don't think any racist commentary is ever appropriate. I was just speculating about Sergio's motives)
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05-23-2013 , 03:20 AM
I see what you are getting at but I just don't see how that is possible. Nobody has made mention of Fuzzy's comment in years in the media (well, Feherty touched on it in his interview last year). So it's not exactly topical. But usually jokes about bad jokes are regarding bad jokes that were made fairly recently and are still somewhat topical.

Fuzzy's comment was from 1997. If he was making light of that then he's really bad at using outdated references. If he's not racist he's just the least-cognizant comedian of all-time.
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05-23-2013 , 04:25 AM
I quote 80's movies all the time. Good references to bad quotes are always relevant Please note that I'm not trying to win and argument. I'm "just sayin'"
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05-23-2013 , 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ReidLockhart
So like, I agree that it was a racist thing to say and that he should apologize for it, but doesn't anyone else think he was actually making fun of Fuzzy's foot-in-mouth commentary from 16 years ago...and that it was just a joke in really poor taste?
Sergio stated yesterday that he was unaware of Zoeller's comments.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/golf/story/...io-garcia.html

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Garcia said he was unaware of Zoeller's comments because he was only 17 at the time. Even so, it was a peculiar choice of words for a player who has lived in Spain his entire life, though the 33-year-old has been a PGA Tour member since he was 20.
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05-23-2013 , 09:53 AM
Seems most of the Euros are behind Sergio. It's kinda funny how it's always Tiger having these disputes with other guys but these other guys never have disputes with anyone else. Sergio, Vijay, Phil,Rory for a short time, Elin, probably like 16 beat up whores, etc. The list just goes on and on. Only common factor there is Eldrick.

In before "they are just haters."
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05-23-2013 , 10:28 AM
Take a drink each time "hogans alley" is mentioned this week
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05-23-2013 , 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by aggy
Seems most of the Euros are behind Sergio. It's kinda funny how it's always Tiger having these disputes with other guys but these other guys never have disputes with anyone else. Sergio, Vijay, Phil,Rory for a short time, Elin, probably like 16 beat up whores, etc. The list just goes on and on. Only common factor there is Eldrick.

In before "they are just haters."
I may be completely crazy but I don't recall significant spats between Tiger and Phil/Rory. Pretty sure I've just forgotten Vijays spat.

This Sergio spat is by far the most public and drawn out spat I can remember with Tiger. Aside from maybe Stevie which I think it's become obvious he was the villain in that spat. Most spats with Tiger seem to go about like it did for Stephen Ames.


IIRC Tiger is one of the more well liked guys in the clubhouse behind closed doors.
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05-23-2013 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by aggy
Seems most of the Euros are behind Sergio. It's kinda funny how it's always Tiger having these disputes with other guys but these other guys never have disputes with anyone else. Sergio, Vijay, Phil,Rory for a short time, Elin, probably like 16 beat up whores, etc. The list just goes on and on. Only common factor there is Eldrick.

In before "they are just haters."
Lol news flash. Tiger is a jerk. That is universally agreed on. UNIVERSALLY!
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05-23-2013 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by aggy
Seems most of the Euros are behind Sergio. It's kinda funny how it's always Tiger having these disputes with other guys but these other guys never have disputes with anyone else. Sergio, Vijay, Phil,Rory for a short time, Elin, probably like 16 beat up whores, etc. The list just goes on and on. Only common factor there is Eldrick.

In before "they are just haters."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...marks/2354547/

maybe cuz many of them are racist at heart?
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05-23-2013 , 02:26 PM
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Sergio stated yesterday that he was unaware of Zoeller's comments.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/golf/story/...io-garcia.html
There is literally no way this is true.

Of course he's aware of Fuzzy's comment and its implications. Come the **** on, Sergio.
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05-23-2013 , 08:15 PM
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...marks/2354547/

maybe cuz many of them are racist at heart?
haha wtf
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05-23-2013 , 08:49 PM
So glad my ancestors left Europe when they couldn't figure out how to grow potatoes anymore. What a backwoods continent.
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05-24-2013 , 05:55 AM
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Garcia said he was unaware of Zoeller's comments because he was only 17 at the time. Even so, it was a peculiar choice of words for a player who has lived in Spain his entire life, though the 33-year-old has been a PGA Tour member since he was 20.
LOL. I was 17 at the time too, I remember hearing all about it back then and I'm not a professional golfer.

The incident was referenced in a Puff Daddy song FFS.
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05-24-2013 , 08:44 AM
Listened to an interview that implied "fried chicken" connotation is a little different on this side of the Atlantic vs in Europe. Can a non-American verify?
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05-24-2013 , 09:02 AM
UC,

Go read the sergio thread. The euros are having a field day
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05-24-2013 , 04:07 PM
Jordan Spieth is tied for 2nd
the Golf Channel loves this guy

He went to Texas

You've been warned
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05-24-2013 , 04:59 PM
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Jordan Spieth is tied for 2nd
the Golf Channel loves this guy

He went to Texas

You've been warned
I'm in Texas and the rate at which the Golf Channel has sucked this kid off the last couple months has been unbearable.
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05-24-2013 , 05:03 PM
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Listened to an interview that implied "fried chicken" connotation is a little different on this side of the Atlantic vs in Europe. Can a non-American verify?
As an idiot from northern europe, I wouldn't even had a clue that 'fried chicken' could have anything racist about it if I hadn't figured it out from coming across, and looking into, various jokeish pictures on the internet.

And even having done so, the reason and meaning of this as racism is still fuzzy enough where it's very far from being something I'd react to as racist in itself without something else triggering that connection for me.

I don't know what Garcia specifically would link to this, but I'm pretty sure that the average European would be pretty clueless about all of this.

I'm fairly sure this is nothing that would 'instinctively' appear racist to most Europeans and that they'd actively have to look into it and mean it as an obviously racist remark for them to make it as one.

I find it pretty unlikely that Garcia would do this as it would inevitably also mean realising the fallout that would come from it and still go ahead and say it. It's not something most Europeans (probably non-Americans) would accidentally say to show an underlaying racist viewpoint.
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05-24-2013 , 05:10 PM
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As an idiot from northern europe, I wouldn't even had a clue that 'fried chicken' could have anything racist about it
Which is why, when asked the same question, you would not have said "Yeah and I'll serve him fried chicken every night."

But because Sergio went out of his way to say this, we can deduce that he was fully aware of the implications of such comments. Probably because he's been entrenched in golf since at least two years prior to the 1997 Zoeller comment.

Stop trying to make this harder to understand than it is. Europeans in this forum are coming off really, really badly.
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05-24-2013 , 06:10 PM
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As an idiot from northern europe, I wouldn't even had a clue that 'fried chicken' could have anything racist about it if I hadn't figured it out from coming across, and looking into, various jokeish pictures on the internet.
It is important to take into consideration the opinions of those who are not inherently biased by their social/cultural upbringing about the fried chicken comment, or, in fact, any matter at all.

Obviously those like A-Rod's cousin were brought up in a very, very racially sensitive environment where even the slightest whiff of race sets off loud alarms.
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05-24-2013 , 06:32 PM
I thought the fried chicken comment was about Americans being fast food lovers and generally being fat ****s.

Honestly, who gives a ****? The world we live in today is over sensitive to just about everything.

You can't say boo without some whining moaning git getting upset.
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05-24-2013 , 06:44 PM
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I thought the fried chicken comment was about Americans being fast food lovers and generally being fat ****s.

Honestly, who gives a ****? The world we live in today is over sensitive to just about everything.

You can't say boo without some whining moaning git getting upset.
100% guaranteed you are middle class, white and male.
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05-24-2013 , 06:54 PM
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So glad my ancestors left Europe when they couldn't figure out how to grow potatoes anymore. What a backwoods continent.
I'd like an apology for this comment.
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