Dont think Tiger ever took steroids nor do I think it ever crossed his mind. We are talking about Tiger here, not Lance Armstrong

I'll take the over on this for basically all of the past decade. He's a little trimmer now, so he may be under two bills again, but he was freaking cut for several of his peak years.

If you forced me to bet whether Tiger used SOME KIND of performance enhancing something or other I would bet that he did. But that's such a vague term, and it's fairly likely that he used some quasi legal designer thing that he could easily have thought was a legal supplement. I also couldn't care less.

this guy. asks me rhetorically if i have watched any of the tourney, and then goes on to admit that he just watched a bit on friday and monday. half his shots aye?! half of the shots you actually saw. and how many is that, 10?

well to retort, if half his shots are just plain f-ing awful and he wins by 4 shots is that not GOAT!

http://m.espn.go.com/golf/story?storyId=2921413

Cliffs: story from 2007
Tiger says he was 158 in 96 when he came on Tour. At time of article he says he weighs in between 182-185. Article list him at 6'2 and PGA had him at 6'1. Both are pushing it if you ask me, and with such a small waist(31") and notoriously skinny legs, its really tough for him to get over 200. I'd take the under on him ever being on Tour at 200 lbs.

He looks so cut bc he has so little body fat, as a result of his work out regiment and very strict diet.

lol @ steriod accusations(w/o any evidence of)

the haters will go to any lengths to find a reason to hate.

and lol @ at dood who knows tiger on a "personal level" to know tiger is a piece of garbage as a human being.

stop trying to find a hero to worship in professional sports. he's just a great golf player. the end. unless you know him personally, you sound like an idiot passing judgement on something you have no knowledge of.

i might be a fan of how he can manipulate a small golf ball to do his will but i dont go saying his the coolest guy on the planet and an ideal human being we should all strive to emulate. i havent heard any tiger fans on this forum do that. they only point out how great he plays or how he dominates the game. but you seem to go out of your way to try to destroy his character. looks pathetic.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...spray/1875089/

Talk about timing. Vijay linked to deer anler spray. (A banned anabolic hormone)

How about if he wins a major, you only have to keep the avatar for 3 weeks and if he doesn't, I keep it for a month?

Grunching,

lolozen

This isn't how quoting articles works. You can't look at what Tiger says about his weight and claim it to be fact and then disagree with other parts of the article that hurt your argument(height).

I don't believe Tiger was 185 in his prime, nor do I think he's worn a 31 inch waist for a long time. It's not tough at all for someone 6'1 to be over 200 pounds. I'm 6 foot 1, I've been in very good shape at several points of my life(NitBO laughs) and I wasn't nearly as strong as Tiger was and I weighed more than 185 the entire time. Not that my example is the only reason I think this way, Tiger was just jacked for a while, and also somewhat out of shape for a while, both times I wouldn't think he weighed that little.

nice lol

Height is over-stated religiously. I've been within feet of Tiger on a few occasions, I stand right at 6' and we were about the same height(He definitely didnt have 2 inches on me). His waist is incredibly tiny and has been for his entire career. And as for weight, I guess Tiger is the only person in the world who prides himself on getting bigger and stronger and then low balls his weight by 20 pounds. He also appears to be so jacked bc I would assume his body fat % is insanely low. Tiger has big shoulder and arms, thats about it.

Correct. Weight is also under-stated religiously for the exact same reason. I can point you to an endless amount of Wiki or B-Ref pages with hilarious underweights from people who listed their weight when they got drafted and never updated again. It's not like Tiger has to be weighed in before tournaments or something.

People like to be tall and skinny. With the exception of playing OL in the NFL I can think of very few professional athletes who want people to think they are bigger than they actually are.


Sweet bro. I'm glad that from several feet away, on a golf course(that are known for not exactly being flat), you were able to determine his height to within an inch. You should go to a carnival or something with that kind of talent, wtf is this even?


Says who? Yeah he was a skinny ass dude when he got onto the tour. He's not that guy anymore.

What the frack? People almost always want to be seen as skinner rather than heavier. Which is more impressive? 180lb guy benching 300 or the 210lb guy benching 300?

What incentive would Tiger possibly have for saying he gained a bunch of weight? There is none whatsoever. All it would have done is brought attention to him.

Not to mention weights for athletes fluctuate ALOT. I've played rounds of golf in Texas where I've lost 5-7 pounds of water weight alone. I'm sure for a professional athlete working out a ton, playing golf a ton, and on a super hardcore eating regimen he would go up and down quite a bit. Not to mention his injuries and stuff.

fwiw i was shocked at how slim holyfield and tyson's waists were at weigh-ins

and when talking waist size there is huge diff between jean size and tailors measurement

You guys don't understand how steroids work. With how hard Tiger worked out for all those years, he would be absolutely JACKED! Beefy bodybuilder jacked.

He gradually gained weight over many years and became very strong. There is nothing out of the ordinary there. That's what the human body does when you stress it continuously for a prolonged period. Many of you don't know that because you don't work out hard enough. You think anytime someone gets big it's because they juice.

If he was juicing he would have been a meat head within like 6 months with how hard he pushed himself. Instead he gains like 30 pounds in, what, 6 or 7 years?

Take 10 minutes to read about how steroids work so we don't have to keep reading about your uneducated bashes at Tiger.

And lol lolzen. Never gets old hearing people say Tiger is a trash human being.

He hasn't hurt anyone, stolen anything, or anything else that would cause harm to anyone. He's cheated on his wife which happens in probably about 50% of marriages. Are you saying anyone who cheats are horrible humans?

If cheating alone makes him horrible, he's still gotta be in the top 15% of human morality.

Back to golf, I'll say the GOAT is GOATing 1 major and 5 other tourneys this year.

LOL whatever man. This is going nowhere.

re:ZBTHorton

Sigh. I'm not even really arguing that he used them at this point but this post is ridiculous.

Not everyone who used steroids gets JACKED. Not everyone who uses them becomes a body builder. Look at all of the people busted for them in MLB. You've got Barry Bonds body builder types and Chuck Knoblauch types. Everyones body reacts differently, everyone works out differently, and it's completely asinine to pretend we would know how Tiger's body would have reacted. Especially since we have no idea what he would have hypothetically even taken.

Not to mention the fact that Tiger was pretty damn jacked for a few years. Not Barry Bonds jacked, but certainly not scrawny little Tiger either. Now he's somewhere in between. What does any of this mean?...Probably nothing.

anderson silva, dan henderson, vitor belfort, chael sonnen, rich franklin, etc. - all 6' - 6'2" and 185lbs.

randy couture, rampage jackson, chuck liddell, lyoto machida, maurico rua, etc - all 6'-6'2" and 205lbs.

is tiger bigger than anderson silva and vitor belfort? mmmmmaybe.

is tiger bigger than rampage, shogun, couture? i doubt it!

i think you see tiger standing next to all those other "physical specimens" of professional golfers and your perception is skewed. irl he's probably not that swoll.

looks just like Tiger Woods IMO



Tiger in 06, pretty close to prime Tiger

Yea I can see the comparison to someone else who is his height and ~200 lbs.

Because not everyone lifts hard enough and often enough to see the full benefits of steroids. You can demolish your muscles and recover in time for the same workout the next day. From what I've read, Tiger was busting his ass and would have been packing on muscle like no other if he was juicing. That's not what we saw in reality. It took a long, long time for him to get big.

Of course there's people who take it and think it will automatically make them huge. You still have to bust your ass to see any benefit of roiding up. Most people looking for that shortcut aren't the bust ass type.

BO and the Tiger haters just making things up now. Love it.

Cheating on his pregnant wife is just a small part of it for me. His temper tantrums on the course, total disregard for fans. His ego with the press when he cheated and held his press conference with only selected members. His ill change speech and back to his antics on the course

As for the PED. Why fly in a doctor known for PED and steroids from Canada to treat you when many other doctors available?

Its golf the testing is about as brutal as the NFL. I guess so few NFL players have been caught that only a tiny percentage use.

Will see if he has another major at the end of this year?

Lozen, remember when you proclaimed he would never win another golf tournament again....?

Good times.

He's up to 5 (4 official) since that incredible call.

FWIW, the widely available betting line is 2-1 against Tiger winning at least one major. So like 33% shot. So it should be BO getting the avatar for a month and you getting it for 2 weeks.