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01-28-2013 , 07:04 PM
Yo BO

Same avatar bet as last year?
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01-28-2013 , 07:07 PM
I like Feherty a lot, but there's something wrong with that 'interview' coming off the green at 18, when he says more words than Tiger does

\nit
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01-28-2013 , 07:12 PM
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Anyone else notice on that commercial where Charlie Rymer is wearing orange Puma gear, Win McMurray glances down at Holly Sonders' tits and winces in glory and smiles, then looks back up into her wanting eyes? Or just me?
That begs the question, Win or Holly? I'm firmly in camp Win. There's an innuendo there but whatever.
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01-28-2013 , 07:14 PM
Backed in to a championship...lowering my expectations from 3 to 2 majors this year. Tiger needs to pick up the pace imo!
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01-28-2013 , 07:17 PM
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Yo BO

Same avatar bet as last year?
Very doubtful, he's got another year of swing work and health under his belt which is a huge difference. If it were the same bet as last year I'd feel much more comfortable with your side of it.

But we definitely need to come up with something. I'd certainly take the under 1.5 majors, but not sure that would be fair to you. We might have to throw in another big event or two.

BO
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01-28-2013 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by King_of_NYC
I like Feherty a lot, but there's something wrong with that 'interview' coming off the green at 18, when he says more words than Tiger does

\nit
It's probably pretty difficult to do an interview with Tiger if the rule is that you have to talk less than him...
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01-28-2013 , 07:38 PM
Brandel with a solidly ignorant opinion on why he thinks Jack is better than Tiger, forever in his eyes basically. Bc the top top players aren't as good. LOL

Completely ignorant bc he admits that even the 50th and 125th guy on Tour is a shot and a half better per round than Jack's era, yet doesn't understand the implications of such a better/deeper field. Depth and strength of field is way more important than just having a handful of good players to beat.

Almost 2/3rds of the field is a SHOT AND A HALF BETTER PER ROUND, that is absurd. I'd love to see someone go back to all the majors from Jack's era, and for everyone not in the top 50 on tour take off 1.5 shots per round(lol 6 shots per major) and see how those "greats" hold up.
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01-28-2013 , 07:54 PM
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Brandel with a solidly ignorant opinion on why he thinks Jack is better than Tiger, forever in his eyes basically. Bc the top top players aren't as good. LOL

Completely ignorant bc he admits that even the 50th and 125th guy on Tour is a shot and a half better per round than Jack's era, yet doesn't understand the implications of such a better/deeper field. Depth and strength of field is way more important than just having a handful of good players to beat.

Almost 2/3rds of the field is a SHOT AND A HALF BETTER PER ROUND, that is absurd. I'd love to see someone go back to all the majors from Jack's era, and for everyone not in the top 50 on tour take off 1.5 shots per round(lol 6 shots per major) and see how those "greats" hold up.
Yeah, those comments were interesting.

However I don't think you can term his opinion ignorant, Brandel has tons more golf knowledge than either of us, no question there. You can disagree with his expert opinion, but I don't think you can term it ignorant.

And FWIW, you're no different than Brandel. You do everything you can to show Tiger is the GOAT, he does everything he can to show Jack is the GOAT. You worship Tiger, he worships Jack.

BO
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01-28-2013 , 08:07 PM
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Yeah, those comments were interesting.

However I don't think you can term his opinion ignorant, Brandel has tons more golf knowledge than either of us, no question there. You can disagree with his expert opinion, but I don't think you can term it ignorant.

And FWIW, you're no different than Brandel. You do everything you can to show Tiger is the GOAT, he does everything he can to show Jack is the GOAT. You worship Tiger, he worships Jack.

BO
Oh BO. I can 100% call his comments ignorant. He lacks awareness of how the depth and strength of a field matters despite knowing how much stronger and deeper the fields are. That's basically the definition of ignorance.

Also I don't do everything I can do to show Tiger is GOAT, implying I somehow slant all my info towards pro Tiger stuff. The numbers are in plain view.
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01-28-2013 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by NxtWrldChamp
Brandel with a solidly ignorant opinion on why he thinks Jack is better than Tiger, forever in his eyes basically. Bc the top top players aren't as good. LOL

Completely ignorant bc he admits that even the 50th and 125th guy on Tour is a shot and a half better per round than Jack's era, yet doesn't understand the implications of such a better/deeper field. Depth and strength of field is way more important than just having a handful of good players to beat.

Almost 2/3rds of the field is a SHOT AND A HALF BETTER PER ROUND, that is absurd. I'd love to see someone go back to all the majors from Jack's era, and for everyone not in the top 50 on tour take off 1.5 shots per round(lol 6 shots per major) and see how those "greats" hold up.
He has to be pulling a skip bayless re: tiger. Producers prob encouraging him to rile viewers up.

He can't be this dumb...can he?
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01-28-2013 , 08:28 PM
Yeah, ignorant is the exact right word. Math, how does it work?
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01-28-2013 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ntnBO
Yeah, those comments were interesting.

However I don't think you can term his opinion ignorant, Brandel has tons more golf knowledge than either of us, no question there. You can disagree with his expert opinion, but I don't think you can term it ignorant.

And FWIW, you're no different than Brandel. You do everything you can to show Tiger is the GOAT, he does everything he can to show Jack is the GOAT. You worship Tiger, he worships Jack.

BO
It's actually worse than ignorance. He apparently knows all the data, but reaches an absurd conclusion.
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01-28-2013 , 09:06 PM
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It's actually worse than ignorance. He apparently knows all the data, but reaches an absurd conclusion.
Don't confuse being entertaining with being misinformed. Dick Morris predicted a landslide win for Romney, not because he is uninformed but because those predictions moved the needle. People in the punditry business hate Nate Silver because he pulls back the curtain.
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01-28-2013 , 09:26 PM
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Almost 2/3rds of the field is a SHOT AND A HALF BETTER PER ROUND, that is absurd. I'd love to see someone go back to all the majors from Jack's era, and for everyone not in the top 50 on tour take off 1.5 shots per round(lol 6 shots per major) and see how those "greats" hold up.
To be fair I think it would hold up pretty well, because in reality if they were 6 shots better off most of them would choke to some degree.

I do think though that Tiger is the better of the two, he is ahead in close to every stat except majors won and is equal in majors won at Tigers current age.
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01-28-2013 , 09:26 PM
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Don't confuse being entertaining with being misinformed. Dick Morris predicted a landslide win for Romney, not because he is uninformed but because those predictions moved the needle. People in the punditry business hate Nate Silver because he pulls back the curtain.
Careful, you are giving political pundits way to much credit if you think what they say is more for entertainment in their eyes. Tons of conservatives were ignorant to the numbers this past election.
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01-28-2013 , 09:31 PM
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It's actually worse than ignorance. He apparently knows all the data, but reaches an absurd conclusion.
An absurd conclusion to you and many that concur that Tiger competed when the fields were tougher placing more significance on his wins. Many times Brandel has asked who is the one player that can dominate like Tiger did and his answer is Tiger. So he may not be the number one Tiger fan but does give the odd props.

We still don't have all the answers on weather Tiger has competed clean though and we will never know. Questions will always remain on his association with the CDN Steroid Doc.

As much as I dislike Tiger I do think he is the GOAT all time but also think he has used performance enhancing drugs

Mike Weir made money finally
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01-28-2013 , 09:35 PM
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An absurd conclusion to you
No. It is a mathematically incorrect conclusion. It is not a matter of opinion.
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01-28-2013 , 09:36 PM
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Careful, you are giving political pundits way to much credit if you think what they say is more for entertainment in their eyes. Tons of conservatives were ignorant to the numbers this past election.
Karl Rove's meltdown on election night (and all the stories about Team Romney on that same night) is all one needs to know to understand that Republicans believed their own (wildly incorrect) forecasts.
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01-28-2013 , 09:48 PM
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Karl Rove's meltdown on election night (and all the stories about Team Romney on that same night) is all one needs to know to understand that Republicans believed their own (wildly incorrect) forecasts.
Basically. Fair and Balanced tho.
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01-28-2013 , 09:53 PM
If Jack was better he wouldn't have made his competition look so good. If only Tiger let Phil, Ernie, and Singh win more then Chamblee might be saying how GOAT Tiger is since his competition is so tough!
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01-28-2013 , 10:33 PM
gc is turnning into into the fox news of golf.

why does it seem all the tiger haters or doubters on tv are square, old, white men. it seems most non-whites have either forgiven or accepted tigers past transgressions and have moved on, or didnt give a f... to begin with.

is it because tiger has the potential to smash nickalus'(white people's holy grail of the sport) major recorded while already being considered by many as GOAT; steadily bangs white chicks; and had a white wife he cheated on with other white hookers; all the while being a double whammy black/asian?

i mean who the f... gets this much criticism for winning a prestigeous tournament by 4 shots?

he spanked the field by 4 strokes but...

"there's so much doubt about his game being all the way back"

"there's much to be worked on going forward"

its pretty comical now

although brandel is right about one thing. until tiger reaches jack's record of majors, its hard to say tiger is the GOAT of pga.

tiger may be the greatest skilled golfer of all time but if he wants to be the greatest pro of all time then he needs that record. i believe if healthy its inevitable
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01-28-2013 , 10:46 PM
Maybe...maybe not. It's not inconceivable he could get to 100 tour victories, with many coming against elite fields in WGC events and such. It'd be pretty hard to argue against him being GOAT if that happens, even if he comes up one or two majors short.
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01-28-2013 , 11:01 PM
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Maybe...maybe not. It's not inconceivable he could get to 100 tour victories, with many coming against elite fields in WGC events and such. It'd be pretty hard to argue against him being GOAT if that happens, even if he comes up one or two majors short.
It's already hard. Jack lovers simply refuse to adjust for era.

Tiger could win 200 events and 17 majors and you'd STILL see nitbo claiming Jack is the GOAT.
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01-28-2013 , 11:23 PM
Wait so Brandel Chumlee admits that the competition is better today but then claims that that is a point in favor of Jack? ...How?

Isn't there way more parity in the modern tour than there used to be? Players way further down on the OWGR list can win a tournament as compared to the 60s.

In before BO points out the OWGR didn't exist back then. I'm talking the theoretical OWGR.

This is not unlike the argument that Babe Ruth is better than Bonds because he hit more homers in a season than the rest of the entire league. Has nothing to do with the fact that the rest of the league was fat drunk white American-only guys who worked full-time jobs in the offseason and didn't have nearly the financial incentive to get better, as they do now.
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01-28-2013 , 11:26 PM
Brandel only thinks the bottom 2/3rds of the Tour is much better nowadays.

As for baseball, no hitting stats that exist before the slider was introduced to the game matter.
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