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Jack can be the GOAT most majors won player, for right now. You can argue he has the GOAT career accomplishments so far. It shouldn't really be arguable that he is the GOAT GOLFER though.

Bill Russell has the most NBA championships won, but isn't considered the GOAT basketball player by many. Yeah thats a team sport but I think majors and nba titles won are somewhat similar in this discussion and are obv getting weighted way too much if that is your main and only factor in choosing a GOAT. It would be diff if Tiger only had like 5 majors or somethin silly or like 8 and his career was done already. But this isn't the case and it's not really close when talking about the GOAT golfer imo.

But not everyone is really clear on what they mean by GOAT.

Everytime I see Cink on tv I mutter, "**** you Cink, I hate you". God damn Watson, why didn't you winnnnnnn?

Not that I have any great feeling one way or another, but what's with the Cink hate? Seems like a decent guy.

If it wasn't for him, Tom Watson wins The Open at age 59. No other reason.

He does seem to be a decent guy.

BO

I just watched the hour long recap of the 2005 masters and the part about Jack's last round made it a little dusty in my room.

Why did that ball have to hit so firm?!?

woulda been something special

It seemed that he has a twitter following, or at least used to. He's always just seemed kind of standoffishly dickish to me. I went to the 2007 Match Play in Tucson and followed a match between Stephen Ames and him. Ames was extremely likable and engaging, whereas Cink didn't acknowledge the four or five of us who were on the ropes. Granted, he's not obligated to and there's nothing wrong with focus but it wasn't endearing.

This was a couple of years after he "stole" a win at Harbour Town in a playoff from one of my high school teammates (Ted Purdy) when he more or less built a lie in a sandy area. It led to a rule change. While it wasn't cheating and I may do the same considering a title, all that comes with it, and hundreds of thousands of dollars on the line, it was still suspect and Purdy told me later that a lot of pros gave their condolences to him the following week, although he certainly harbors no grudge towards Cink.

Then there was 2009. My heart still hurts about that. 71 1/2 holes of magic, one big bounce, and it goes from the biggest story in the history of golf, hands down with no close second to Stewart ****ing Cink beating Tom Watson in a playoff. Just awful. Why couldn't it at least by someone I like?

that was similar to gary player's go-to move out of the rough. pick the fw first then change to an iron

Cink>Donald. More majors.

I doubt this. He's South African and those people have high morals and ethics.

I remember that. He pretty much drew a line in the sand behind his ball so it was sitting up. IMHO completely obvious rules infraction as sand is not a moveable obstruction unless its on the green.

And Tom Watson can suck it. I met him and he while engaging is kinda dickish. Really you write to the Masters committee to get McCord
blackballed? You scam on Dennis Watson's ex two months after the split.... that is so wrong. Don't ask me what he thought why Stanford's football team was struggled a few years back...

Cink
- 39 yrs old
- nine Top 10s in majors


Donald
- 36 yrs old
- seven Top 10s in majors

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I'd be curious - Cink's Open win largely had no impact on anything. He's one of those forgotten Major winners much like Immelman, Micheel, etc.

How would things be different if Watson had won?

Watson would be 5.55% more GOAT, Cink would be 5.55% less GOAT.

you may want to google "apartheid"

in all seriousness, your reaction was the same as mine.

but this article is pretty scathing. smoke often equals fire and it seems like it was a common view of gary as opposed to a feud with one person (it may have been that too)

http://thesandtrap.com/b/swing_thoughts/he_cheated

I don't really know where you're going with this. It's not about who won, it's about who didn't win. Watson would have totally crushed Nicklaus in '86, Ouimet at the US Open and everything else - sorry, I can't think of a comparable non-American equivalent off the top of my head - and been by far the biggest story in the modern history of the game. It was more interesting because he wasn't just some random old guy, they absolutely adore Tom (aka TOOM!) over there going back to the romance he had with the Open Championship in the late 70s / early 80s. Don't laugh at this: to the old timers he could easily be as popular as Jack and Tiger or any other American to win there.

As much as I don't like Cink he belongs a level above Micheel / Immelman / et al. He's had trouble closing but was relevant for many years before his recent fall-off, including of course the 2001 debacle at Southern Hills. He's probably made several Ryder Cup and President's Cup teams combined.

immelman's funny. dominant victory at most prestigious major but largely forgotten

i'd add michael campbell to your list

He would have been the oldest player ever to win a major championship. People would never forget about that, but Cink winning took that all away.

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It's too bad Tom Watson didn't play well enough to win.

I don't understand getting butthurt over some guy winning a tourney. They earned it. That's the great thing about golf - there isn't really any ambiguity (unless you are DJ in an unbeknownst bunker).

Tom didn't play well enough to win, Stewart did. Nothing to be mad over.

IIRC, when Stewart won he told Tom "This should have been you." and Tom replied "It was. 5 times before." Tom ain't mad.

It would have been the biggest story in the history of sports eclipsing the Miracle on Ice. Would have absolutely dwarfed Jack's amazing '86 win.

BO

no, BO. Just no.

I remember that and I think everyone wanted him to win. There were no Watson haters that wanted him to lose. It would have been up there in the greatest sport history wins if it happened