Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread

03-29-2013 , 01:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KenoVictoryLap
A shot clock is impractical. When does it start? When you get to your ball? When the green clears? When your partner hits? So if you are away you get 2 minutes and if you are second to hit you get 4 minutes? Is there a guy with a stopwatch following every group?

Solution in search of a problem imo.
They just need to make sure players keep up though. Problem is lets say you have a group falling behind and Keegan Bradley and John Daly are in the group.
If they fall behind one warning and a penalty. But penalize the slow player. They do it on the ladies tour and the Champions tour. PGA they give 10 warnings.

Than I go golfing with my buddy and he has to look at the putt from all angles cause he saw it on tour.


Be fun to see a shot clock on tour though. Just to many players
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Quote
03-29-2013 , 01:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BreakYaNeck
I think there is a decent chance we see something done about slow play at some point though. They did a segment 2 weeks ago? on slow play and the tour realizes it is an issue. Would be shocked if something wasnt done in the next 5 years
I hope so. I cant stand watching slow players. The only slow player I enjoy watching is Kevin Na just for the lulz. Pull the ****in trigger bro! I still have some of his swings on dvr where he cant take it back. Its priceless
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Quote
03-29-2013 , 01:52 PM
Wtf is up with Brian Davis? He looks like an amateur whose coach has been drilling posture, posture, posture into his head. Cant be comfortable.

Hes getting it done this week though, so far.
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Quote
03-29-2013 , 01:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mucksandgravs
I hope so. I cant stand watching slow players. The only slow player I enjoy watching is Kevin Na just for the lulz. Pull the ****in trigger bro! I still have some of his swings on dvr where he cant take it back. Its priceless
Kevin Na is just lololol. Love the whiff practice swing
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Quote
03-29-2013 , 02:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mucksandgravs
I like your thinking here, but I just don't ever see this happening. Golf is too rich in its history to make this drastic of a change. Its a methodical game in which each person deals with the situation differently. For example; Ricky takes virtually no time through his pre shot routine where as Keegan likes to think and visualize before each shot.

As long as they are done between 6 and 6:30, that's all that matters as far as pace goes. Its all about TV. I hate to say this, but if it wasn't for TV, rounds would take far longer.
6:30 hr rounds would cause me to quit golf immediately, lodge a 6i into the heads of the laggers and bitchslap the marshall.(if they even have one)

easy solution for even idiots like keegan.... take care of your prep work while waiting for the other guy to hit. dont start your stupid siezure dance once your parnter has already hit and watched where the ball came to rest!

Last edited by nih han; 03-29-2013 at 02:13 PM. Reason: not the rountine to hit but yardages, club selection, wind, etc. then after partner hits step into routine
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Quote
03-29-2013 , 02:11 PM
What do you guys think about the tour eventually allowing players to use rangefinders? Seems like that could help speed up play. Im guessing guys like Grandpa BO will be against it (with all due respect) but some of us younger guys may be for it.
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Quote
03-29-2013 , 02:17 PM
seems silly that range finders are not allowed. you're allowed to find your yardage but it must be done in the most rudimentary way possible. it's like giving an arithmetic test and outlawing calculators but allowing an abacus.
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Quote
03-29-2013 , 02:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nih han
6:30 hr rounds would cause me to quit golf immediately, lodge a 6i into the heads of the laggers and bitchslap the marshall.(if they even have one)

easy solution for even idiots like keegan.... take care of your prep work while waiting for the other guy to hit. dont start your stupid siezure dance once your parnter has already hit and watched where the ball came to rest!
Sorry I meant 6-6:30pm in the east. Not 6 hour round. But lol at your post
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Quote
03-29-2013 , 02:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by augie_
seems silly that range finders are not allowed. you're allowed to find your yardage but it must be done in the most rudimentary way possible. it's like giving an arithmetic test and outlawing calculators but allowing an abacus.
they will allow technology to make the ball go a 1000 yards, but god forbid if technology keeps you from having to walk off the yardage.
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Quote
03-29-2013 , 02:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mucksandgravs
Sorry I meant 6-6:30pm in the east. Not 6 hour round. But lol at your post
lol. my mistake. however i have played a damn near 6 hour round before, and it was one of the worst golf experience i ever had(also 90+ degrees). i rather loose a box of balls and shoot 110+ but keep it under 4 1/2 hrs.
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Quote
03-29-2013 , 02:42 PM
Why Yes I do have Steve Wheatcroft in my line-up on Yahoo

This segment I've only been trolling the bottom feeders in each group. 31st%

woo hoo

Next segment I'll get serious and play Tiger et. all.
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Quote
03-29-2013 , 02:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BreakYaNeck
What do you guys think about the tour eventually allowing players to use rangefinders? Seems like that could help speed up play. Im guessing guys like Grandpa BO will be against it (with all due respect) but some of us younger guys may be for it.
For me, range finders are a non issue for the majority of guys on tour. The caddies and the yardage books are good enough where a range finder is not going to be a huge advantage. They already allow them in practice rounds so the course is basically mapped out before they even start tournament play.

The guys its going to help the most are rookies. The guys that haven't played these courses before to give them a better understanding or a greater confidence that they know EXACTLY how far it is to carry that bunker, or how far it is to that tree through the left side of the fairway. Being able to physically pick up something, shoot the yardage and know that the technology will never lie could help out the younger, less experienced guys on tour.
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Quote
03-29-2013 , 02:55 PM
What do you mean by a rangefinder is not going to be a huge advantage? Im looking at this more at speeding up play. If all players can use them during play its not going to be an advantage as everyone gets to use one. Looking at this solely for speeding up play
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Quote
03-29-2013 , 03:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BreakYaNeck
What do you guys think about the tour eventually allowing players to use rangefinders? Seems like that could help speed up play. Im guessing guys like Grandpa BO will be against it (with all due respect) but some of us younger guys may be for it.
I'm all for it.
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Quote
03-29-2013 , 03:29 PM
oh snap, my bad.

I guess it could speed up play a little bit, but i know on the mini tours where they do let you use a rangefinder, the rounds are still at least 5 hours and they are the same number of players, sometimes less than PGA tour events and double tees. Basically setup just like a tour event. As long as you have players that are deliberate, play will continue to be slow. Also, you run into situations on the course where you snap hook one OB, or you hit in the hazard and have to figure out where the most optimal place is to drop. Thats what slows up play, not the caddies stepping yardages. Oh, and par 5's, par 5's slow up play. Rangefinders are a non issue as far as speed of play goes.
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Quote
03-29-2013 , 03:31 PM
I'm 100% against range finders on tour
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Quote
03-29-2013 , 03:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by #Thinman
I'm 100% against range finders on tour
Reasoning?
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Quote
03-29-2013 , 03:41 PM
Experience and course knowledge are inherent factors in golf.
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Quote
03-29-2013 , 03:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by #Thinman
Experience and course knowledge are inherent factors in golf.
But realistically how much is a rangefinder going to take away from that? These caddies already know all the yardages to everything and would probably still prepare the exact same way. It would just save 30 seconds here and there from not walking off a yardage from middle of fairway or whatever.
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Quote
03-29-2013 , 03:47 PM
It would actually add time. Unsure players would have their caddie double-check.

It is also a swing aid.
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Quote
03-29-2013 , 03:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by #Thinman
It would actually add time. Unsure players would have their caddie double-check.

It is also a swing aid.
Dont think caddies would ever walk off yardage during the round when in the middle of the fairway. When I said they would still do everything they normally do, I meant prior to the tournament at walking off yardages. Cant see any caddie walking off a yardage in the middle of a fairway when they have a rangefinder. Probably only if something seemed off.

How is knowing exact yardage a swing aid?
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Quote
03-29-2013 , 04:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by #Thinman
It would actually add time. Unsure players would have their caddie double-check.

It is also a swing aid.
huh?

am i supposed to be looking through it while i swing or just have it hanging around my neck?
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Quote
03-29-2013 , 04:02 PM
There are physical aspects to a swing, such as grip, grip strength, stance, take back, follow-through, head position, blah blah blah...

Then you have mental aspects to a swing, things like controlling that grip strength, controlling tempo, controlling emotion and maybe most importantly, that you hear all the time....trusting your swing.

When you trust your swing, which is a mental characteristic of a swing, you swing better.

Players who trust their GPS number will be more likely to trust their swing. I've experienced this first hand on many occasions.
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Quote
03-29-2013 , 04:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by #Thinman
There are physical aspects to a swing, such as grip, grip strength, stance, take back, follow-through, head position, blah blah blah...

Then you have mental aspects to a swing, things like controlling that grip strength, controlling tempo, controlling emotion and maybe most importantly, that you hear all the time....trusting your swing.

When you trust your swing, which is a mental characteristic of a swing, you swing better.

Players who trust their GPS number will be more likely to trust their swing. I've experienced this first hand on many occasions.
I dont agree with this at all. Pros already have precise yardages. Dont think getting a yardage through a rangefinder or getting it through their caddie is going to change how much they trust their swing
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Quote
03-29-2013 , 04:08 PM
Just because you play a practice round doesn't mean your caddie has yardage from every point, slope and elevation of the course. If it did, they wouldn't talk to each other so much about it on the course.
Official 2013 PGA Tour FEDEX CUP Discussion Thread Quote

      
m