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08-23-2013 , 12:49 PM
I just appreciate the fact that there is good golf with stacked fields on after the PGA now. They've been tweaking the points system since the inception of the FedEx Cup with the main goal seemingly being to keep each tournament "meaningful" as best they can.

The system will never be perfect and there are definitely reasonable criticisms to made in regards to how points are awarded and the eventual winner determined. They may be missing the point though.

The primary goal of the FedEx Cup is not to crown the most deserving Champion, this was made clear after Vijay locked it up before the Tour Championship and caused a major revision of the points system. The first priority of the "playoffs" is to put on multiple important tournaments after the PGA where the players all have incentive to play and the fans are interested.

With that in mind I think they have been an unquestionable success.
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08-23-2013 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DanteA
Same as every year...**** imo

Didnt Bill Haas win like one tournament and won fedex?

yep http://www.pgatour.com/players/playe...l/season/#uber
T43 = 60G's = EZ Game
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08-23-2013 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BreakYaNeck
I agree the Tour Championship should be worth alot of points but not enough points to where someone wins the first 3 events gets 2nd in the last one and loses
Wow if this is true.
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08-23-2013 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Rod's Cousin
Wow if this is true.
It's true in a very specific scenario. Anyone in the top 5 in FedEx points going into the Tour Championship wins the FedEx cup with a win at East Lake.

If you have your panties in a bunch about it it's solely because you don't understand the point of the FedEx Cup.
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08-23-2013 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Your Boss
It's true in a very specific scenario. Anyone in the top 5 in FedEx points going into the Tour Championship wins the FedEx cup with a win at East Lake.

If you have your panties in a bunch about it it's solely because you don't understand the point of the FedEx Cup.
You can very well understand the point of the FedEx Cup and still think the system is pretty stupid
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08-23-2013 , 01:15 PM
They felt they had to make changes after the first two FedEx cups were laughable runaways.

2007: Tiger skipped the first event, then went 2nd, 1st, and 1st.

2008: Vijay wins the first two events, amassing such a huge lead that the guy in second place coming into the Tour Championship actually won the Tour Championship with Vijay finishing 22nd, yet Vijay still won the FedEx Cup.

This is when they changed it.

2009: The change didn't help much, as Tiger goes 2nd, 11th, 1st, 2nd to win the FedEx Cup.

2010: Jim Furyk is DQd from the first event, finishes 37th, then 15th to bring himself to 11th place going into the Tour Championship. He wins it and the Cup.

2011: Bill Haas dominates the Cup by going 24th, 61st, and 16th to bring himself to 25th in the standings. He then wins the Tour Championship and no one ahead of him in the standings does well enough to win the Cup. Closest was Luke Donald, 4th going into the Tour Championship, he finishes 3rd to finish 3rd in the Cup.

2012: Snedeker enters the FedEx Cup in 19th place. But he finishes 2nd in the first event, to move up to 2nd place, followed by 6th place and 37th place. So he enters the Championship in 5th, wins the Championship and wins the Cup.
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08-23-2013 , 01:19 PM
But thats the thing. The first 2 werent laughable runaways. Tiger and Vijay just crushed the playoffs and clearly deserved to win

I want to see the best and most deserving player win the playoffs. Not someone that luckboxes the Tour Championship and gets a million things going his way as far as other player finishes to steal the cup.
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08-23-2013 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BreakYaNeck
I want to see the best and most deserving player win the playoffs. Not someone that luckboxes the Tour Championship and gets a million things going his way as far as other player finishes to steal the cup.
Goes right back to my point about the Super Bowl. RARELY does the best team win it. The team that is the hottest during the playoffs is the team that ends up with the trophy.

Lets get this really cooking, Lets take the top 210 golfers in FedEx Cup points.
Divide them into 3 separate brackets, based upon FedEx Cup, making sure 1 2 and 3 are in separate brackets. No one is cut after the first 2 rounds. Each bracket play at a different golf course, The Barclays, Deutsche Bank Championship, and the BMW Championship. Top 25 finishers from each bracket move on to the final at the Tour Championship again no one gets cut after the first 2 rounds. Finishing order there is how the money gets spread out.
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08-23-2013 , 01:45 PM
Tiger and Vijay won the cup? LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL those guys sucked at golf.

Better change the rules so the Furyks, Hasses and Snedekers of the world can have $10 Million extra.

I really don't care a great deal. I don't think winning the FedEx cup means much aside from a bunch of money. It's obviously a stupid system but if it makes 4 extra weeks of semi-meaningful golf featuring 30+ of the best players of the year then I'm not going to complain.
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08-23-2013 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Cageysmooth
Goes right back to my point about the Super Bowl. RARELY does the best team win it. The team that is the hottest during the playoffs is the team that ends up with the trophy.

Lets get this really cooking, Lets take the top 210 golfers in FedEx Cup points.
Divide them into 3 separate brackets, based upon FedEx Cup, making sure 1 2 and 3 are in separate brackets. No one is cut after the first 2 rounds. Each bracket play at a different golf course, The Barclays, Deutsche Bank Championship, and the BMW Championship. Top 25 finishers from each bracket move on to the final at the Tour Championship again no one gets cut after the first 2 rounds. Finishing order there is how the money gets spread out.
You cant compare a team sport with 2 divisions against golf where everyone is playing for themselves. There is a best team of the AFC and a best team for the NFC. Conveniently enough you skipped my post talking about how football is nothing like golf.

Your 2nd part of your post means nothing lol. Like what are you even getting at?!

Everyone is going to have a different opinion. My main problem with it is someone can dominate the playoffs and lose. The system in place now is solely for the tour and networks to make the most money, not a system that is the most practical
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08-23-2013 , 02:00 PM
Having the title wrapped up before the Tour Championship sucks for us viewers. That's all there is to it.

If they continued to use the old system that was more fair, then there would be even more complaining and ratings would suffer.
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08-23-2013 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BreakYaNeck
Your 2nd part of your post means nothing lol. Like what are you even getting at?!
Was just offering a different system.
You want to change the system but you don't seem to have any solutions to do so.

But the following is what the system in place is trying to do:

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Originally Posted by Brocktoon
The primary goal of the FedEx Cup is not to crown the most deserving Champion, this was made clear after Vijay locked it up before the Tour Championship and caused a major revision of the points system. The first priority of the "playoffs" is to put on multiple important tournaments after the PGA where the players all have incentive to play and the fans are interested.
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Originally Posted by _Mantis_
Having the title wrapped up before the Tour Championship sucks for us viewers. That's all there is to it.

If they continued to use the old system that was more fair, then there would be even more complaining and ratings would suffer.
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08-23-2013 , 02:05 PM
That Lara Baldasarra from the 19th hole with her ridiculous Canadian accent and 26 years of wisdom said that she thinks the top 125 should make it then the points all go to 0 at the beginning of the playoffs. So that you could win 16 tournies and sweep the majors that year and start with the same number of playoff points as Bo van Pelt. Or whoever sits at 125.
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08-23-2013 , 02:05 PM
Like I said the system is in place for the Tour and the networks to make the most money. It isnt a system that is the most practical or fair to the players. Just scale back the points for the Tour Championship. I dont see a solution being that hard. Each event should be worth more points but certainly not enough for a guy to have 0 wins and be lucky to be number 5 in standings win the Tour championship to knock off a guy who just won 2-3 events and got 2nd in the Tour Championship.

People are greedy hence why this garbage system is in place
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08-23-2013 , 02:11 PM
So would you cancel the Tour Championship if someone had it locked up?
Or still have it and everyone else just be playing for places?
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08-23-2013 , 02:22 PM
The problem with the FedEx Cup is that it is not very highly regarded by the public. No one cares about the FedEx Cup winner the same way they care about any of the majors or the player of the year. I'm sure the players care, though, because they have 10,000,000 to care.
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08-23-2013 , 02:22 PM
Anyone see the tee shot on the par 4 16th hole by Scott Brown, where the ball hits the cart path in the middle of a water hazard, bounces and rolls within a few feet of the pin, EAGLE!!
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08-23-2013 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Cageysmooth
So would you cancel the Tour Championship if someone had it locked up?
Or still have it and everyone else just be playing for places?
Lol at canceling it. Of course you run it. Even if they are just playing for second place, second place is worth $3 million, which is more than you get for winning 2 majors.
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08-23-2013 , 02:26 PM
And if the 2nd place is locked up? and 3rd and etc....
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08-23-2013 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Cageysmooth
So would you cancel the Tour Championship if someone had it locked up?
Or still have it and everyone else just be playing for places?
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Originally Posted by Cageysmooth
And if the 2nd place is locked up? and 3rd and etc....
And people call me a troll.....

BO
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08-23-2013 , 02:30 PM
Thanks BO
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08-23-2013 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Cageysmooth
Anyone see the tee shot on the par 4 16th hole by Scott Brown, where the ball hits the cart path in the middle of a water hazard, bounces and rolls within a few feet of the pin, EAGLE!!
I didn't see this, but how can there be a cart path in the middle of water hazard?
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08-23-2013 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
I didn't see this, but how can there be a cart path in the middle of water hazard?
Here is a link to the story with video:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/yahoo-...9662.html?vp=1
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08-23-2013 , 02:41 PM
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I didn't see this, but how can there be a cart path in the middle of water hazard?
bridge?
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08-23-2013 , 02:47 PM
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I didn't see this, but how can there be a cart path in the middle of water hazard?
Here's the 16th hole by satellite view.

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