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10-04-2015 , 04:21 AM
Think I've posted these every couple years but would like some feedback on my current swing.

http://youtu.be/oevB7_OU-RA

What I see is i take it away inside and then loop it at the top and come a little over, was having a hard time dealing with that, but fairly happy with impact position. I appreciate all thoughts.

Last edited by DeathDonkey; 10-04-2015 at 04:30 AM.
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10-04-2015 , 02:22 PM
you aren't even using your right foot for any power looks like you are lifting it off the ground instead of pushing off the ground, lighting yards on fire there. Backswing a bit long and shut at top I think. The impact position after you have hit the ball looks pretty which is why you like it but it is completely forced after you actually hit the ball and very little to do with your actual position at impact. Just my opinions though hopefully someone who knows golf swings better than me will give you some advice.
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10-04-2015 , 03:16 PM
I'd like to see a face on view but what I see is a closed face at the top. I'd guess you don't miss right often, but then I see your hips are square at impact so maybe you do. Those are the 2 things I'd look into. Your hips need to be about another 45* open at impact than they are. The leading edge of your club face is horizontal when it should be more parallel to your swing plane.

I also noticed your right leg straightens in your backswing. Not sure if it's from going too far back or what but you should keep it bent.
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10-05-2015 , 07:14 AM
Tell yourself to take a half swing every time, and you'll end up going to 75%. This should help with the backswing being too long.

I also noticed the right leg getting straightened out.
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10-05-2015 , 01:19 PM
^^ This is good advice, but hard to do for most ppl. You'll notice you make much better contact doing this and your distance control will improve greatly.

People don't understand how much distance they lose when they're only hitting it flush 60% of the time because they're taking that full backswing trying to get as much distance as possible out of it. A 75% swing will only lose maybe 5 yards on a typical iron shot struck in the seet spot, but when you are hitting it flush 90+% of the time you become a much better player. Hardest thing to get through to most ppl.
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10-05-2015 , 02:46 PM
I'm not good enough to help, but doesn't it seem like he's bent over a bit much? I know standing straight isn't good but this seems like too much bend.
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10-05-2015 , 04:49 PM
I'm no pro. But I suspect neither are the guys telling you not to straighten your right leg.

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10-05-2015 , 05:45 PM
Too bent over at address.

Using your arms too much and pulling them across your body. You actually turn your shoulders/torso very well but just need to keep your arms and hands in front of your chest a bit more, will make the downswing much simpler.

Also let your arms rotate a little on the way back to fight that shut face, toe should be pointing to the sky when the club is waist high on the way back.

Finally, agree on the right leg maintaining some flex. It has to straighten a little naturally due to the turning of the hips but fully straightened is no good.
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10-05-2015 , 06:57 PM
Golf has come a long way since those guys played. Even though none of them have a straight right leg completely and the camera angle doesn't help, but maybe we should ask these guys.

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10-05-2015 , 07:00 PM
Right leg is the least important thing listed so far btw.
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10-05-2015 , 07:42 PM
At any rate if the leg is completely locking on the back swing we can all agree that is bad. I couldn't tell if that was the case in the video. I can't agree that swinging like anyone in my photo wouldn't be a vast improvement for almost everyone in this forum. I know it was a minor point. Sorry for the nittery.
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10-05-2015 , 08:28 PM
I like to point out when NXT is wrong so I should point out when he is right.... and he's dead on here.
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10-05-2015 , 09:27 PM
Since the feedback seems like a lot of criticism, I will point out that this swing is much better than the ones you posted 5 years ago, so you are getting better.
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10-05-2015 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by NxtWrldChamp
Using your arms too much and pulling them across your body. You actually turn your shoulders/torso very well but just need to keep your arms and hands in front of your chest a bit more, will make the downswing much simpler.
Any drills / advice on how to do this? This is the number one thing I struggle with, staying connected on the downswing. It's why in this video you see me working hard on keeping my back foot down because normally I spin out and my foot is turned and on the toe before I even hit the ball. Basically I'm always out of sync on the downswing.

It's funny years ago I was too upright and laid off at the top and now I've overcompensated to bent over and too shut.
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10-05-2015 , 10:47 PM
A good start is to put one of your alignment posts in the middle of your back foot(going backwards) and parallel to your target line. When you are at waist high and look back, your club should be totally on the target side of that post from your perspective(as well as toe up!). In your current swing your club would be way across said post. Half way back you want to feel like your chest is pointing directly at your arms. Arms should have almost the exact orientation in relation to your shoulders as they had at address.

Another thing that will help is to not let your right arm fold behind you so early in the backswing, really at waist high again that right arm shouldn't be all that bent(basically maintaining the same flex it had at address). Again just doing a bit much with the arms, let your body do more of the work and feel like the arms mostly come a long for the ride.
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10-05-2015 , 10:58 PM
NXT, could he benefit from longer clubs?

Suit: "This is good advice, but hard to do for most ppl." I agree that it's a lot harder than it seems. DeathDonkey, if you put your effort into hitting half shots at the range, you will see a lot of the mechanical issues take care of themselves. You will develop a better take away, better timing, and be in better positions overall.

Something positive: Your balance looks great.

Can you post a bad shot? We always see posts of good shots, do you have any video footage of misses?
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10-07-2015 , 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by TheRick
I'm not good enough to help, but doesn't it seem like he's bent over a bit much? I know standing straight isn't good but this seems like too much bend.
this is where we need to start folks, forget the other stuff for a sec, weight looks to be heels, hands too low and close to body.

DD you're bending too much from the waist, give me just a tiny bit of knee flex to get a slightly more athletic looking position at address.
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10-07-2015 , 08:56 PM
Thanks I will try to get another video up later this week. I think I started bending more and more as I didn't used to do that. Hit some balls today but wasn't able to take video. But concentrated on the takeaway and mostly half swings and though I wasn't super consistent I hit some that rocketed off the club face with no effort. Like I said need to get you guys a new video to make sure I am working on the right thing but I def think it helped.

Last range session when I took the video I posted initially I didn't realize how my shut club face was making it so hard to hit one square and I think I started making other compensations.
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10-07-2015 , 10:09 PM
I think with a shortened swing you become a very good ball striker.
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10-07-2015 , 11:50 PM
you'd be surprised just how many issues with the swing can be fixed with a proper set up. a proper set up promotes a proper swing. and the thing is, no matter what your physical strength, flexibility, or athletic ability, everyone can start with a proper set up.

after addressing the set up issues already mentioned, i would work on your first takeaway move. you seem to flip the club head inside which causes your backswing to start way inside and across your chest. as a result your downswing move is "over the top".

try to make ur initial backswing move with your waist and not your hands. most club grips point just left of your belly button at address. it should stay pointed at that spot as you start your backswing(first foot or two). then as you get further in your backswing the arms can swing in sequence. This will keep the club head more in front of your chest and not across it.

last tip would be the downswing sequence. you need to initiate the downswing with your waist first and then sequence the shoulders and arms. by opening up the waist first while lagging your torso you allow room to come from the inside.
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10-08-2015 , 09:10 PM
Hi guys, had a chance to get some practice in today and took a bunch of videos. I was primarily working on the takeaway and shortening the backswing. As you can see below I had varying degrees of success with that. But overall I hit it great and felt like I was making progress. I included all videos just since I took a bunch but hopefully you can see the difference from last time in any of them. All comments and criticisms appreciated!

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Pitching wedge:


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10-08-2015 , 10:36 PM
Get some knee flex going at address. Looks like the club is way too open at top on most of the videos
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10-09-2015 , 03:14 PM
+1 to the knee flex and address.

however the club is not open at the top of the swing. it is still shut as evident by the club face pointing at the sky. if it was open, the toe would be pointing down to the ground.

you're still taking the club too inside in the backswing. if you pause the video during the backswing where the club head and your hands are at the same height from the ground, you can see the club head is way behind your hands(or left of hands from dtl view). ideally the club and hands should be closer together.(pointing at the target when line is drawn connecting them)

by going so far inside you will have to compensate with either over the top move or flipping because you get stuck.
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10-09-2015 , 05:51 PM
You are correct, I get way dyslexic with clubface position at the top of the swing.
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10-11-2015 , 05:57 AM
Progress? Sorry the video quality sucks this time. Strictly worked on setup and takeaway here.



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