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09-14-2023 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ntnBO

Country clubs are always full of drama, sounds like yours is headed for even more. We just had one member expelled for good after insulting the owner and another get a month suspension for calling the head pro a MF’er.
People are crazy. I play at a public course but I know of at least one occasion where a guy was banned by the owner for acting up, don't recall specifically what he did. For me, I have enough going on in life that the course is just kind of a refuge and my happy place. It would take something really extraordinary for me to get into it with the staff.
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09-14-2023 , 07:45 PM
the staff is just trying to do their job
the players are the source of the ass holes
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09-14-2023 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by scottc25
Have a couple topics for today.

I have forever played with a slice. I have a horrific over the top move. Was scrolling the gram and run across a Hank Haney video about fixing the slice. Sure I'm a sucker. Watch the 30 minute video and of course they give you nothing except where to purchase at the end. I took the plunge and ordered the vid fir a bit under $50. All told there is around 11 videos that takes about an hour. Actually really good information in there. Went to the range this afternoon to work on the drills. Will see what happens but his teaching method seems to be sinking in. I have haphazardly fallen into a couple of his drills and swing thoughts so I guess that is encouraging.

Next topic deals with course conditions and my CC in general.

Like most courses, but in particular non-equity courses, there is a push and pull with dues and how much goes into the club to maintain facilities. A few weeks ago I was talking to the Superintendent and he mentioned that he only had six full time employees (unsure on PT ones). For a club with 36 holes that is insanely low. He mentioned they just can't pay enough to keep good employees. Yesterday we teed off at 7:20a. Official opening of tee sheet is 7:32a but with one course being closed we have been given the OK by golf staff and the Super to go at that time. Monday the course was closed for aeration (the small needle ones) and greens sanded. Super mentions they didn't have enough time to mow the fairways so they are running behind. Moe on that later.

As we tee off the guy cutting the holes passes us to get started. He maintained pace ahead of us (we were a threesome) until the back nine. We get to 10 and the the sprinklers are still going on the green, which means the greens still have to be cut and the hole cut in order for us to play it. We go pack to just play the front again, nope ladies group teeing off. We decide to hop to 11 and play but by that time the green is being cut. Screw it we hop to 12 and will just play on uncut and no pin in the greens. Nope the 8:00a ladies that tee off on #10 (why they allow this is beyond me) were delayed 15 minutes because they were behind with the mowing from the day before. End of golf for the day, went home.

So long story short just ****ing charge us more so they can get proper people to maintain the course. I really feel bad for the Super. He is doing his best with little resources. And btw we are getting increased dues because of the reno on the North course and we are going to be a "Premier" club. The lols will ensue shortly.
Shine any light on your view of the differences between non-equity and equity in how they approach dispersing dues? I just joined an equity, private club as my first club ever, and it certainly seems like they walk a fine line of balancing the budget between operating expenses vs. capital improvements. Then I look at the non-equity private clubs in town, with how expensive their activation fees are (most dues around my city at the privates seem to be pretty equal) and I wonder how any non-equity course could suffer from lower funds. Maybe because there's less turnover so less capital from new members?
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09-15-2023 , 10:26 AM
Good question. I always think of equity clubs as higher end and more wealthy members. Someone who can stand a yearly bill from the club saying we need $$$. Maybe I'm wrong there.
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09-15-2023 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by scottc25
Good question. I always think of equity clubs as higher end and more wealthy members. Someone who can stand a yearly bill from the club saying we need $$$. Maybe I'm wrong there.
Quick anecdote:

Santa Ana Country Club in CA sits on a VERY desirable piece of land. Apparently a developer came in and offered enough so that each member would have cleared over $1m if they sold the club. They unanimously turned it down. They'd rather have their club than money. That is what I think of when thinking of equity versus non-equity.
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09-15-2023 , 08:18 PM
The Hero we need and deserve.

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09-15-2023 , 08:48 PM
the Viktor was on such a hot streak i wanted to keep watching him week after week
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09-24-2023 , 01:21 PM
made the mistake of using my head as a pivot point to roll over while sleeping. stiff neck today. no golf boooooo.

back on the Hogan hook topic. my understanding is that hogan obsessed over how to hit a perfectly balanced straight shot, and he tended to err with a hook. i think he did quite well and played at at very high level with this focus. the decision to change his strategy, to play a fade as his stock shot was rooted in the ease of controlling the ball consistently.

"you can talk to a fade, but a hook wont behave." or some such is bouncing in my head. not sure where the saying originated, but most any golfer that puts in the time to learn how to hit a draw can appreciate its truth.

maybe a golf historian can chime in. thats my understanding of the situation.
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09-24-2023 , 07:13 PM
Hogan made the tour playing a draw but hit too many snappers under the gun to be successful. It wasn’t until he “dug it out of the dirt” and went to the fade that he started to win.

Pretty sure Lee Trevino is the source of the quote.
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09-24-2023 , 10:57 PM
ty.
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10-09-2023 , 12:48 PM
i transplanted this here instead of bbv thread. seemed appropriate.

most of us probably think scot has the game to compete for his club championship by now. i do(maybe not with the ringer in town ha)the conversations about CLOSING, idk what that is but i guess its some mental game system for playing well late game. i don't have any championship competition under my belt in the past 26 years(rec basketball champs 93, mens league floor hockey 1997 championship game was canceled a few minutes into 3rd period because it ended in a brawl lol). so heres a grain of salt with my 2 cents:

a simple mental game is best. the starting line target (or flight window) should be as small and precise as your eyes will allow. this starting line target is directly perpendicular to the leading edge of the clubface. the stance and swing training and repetitions provide the foundation for your mind to focus on the connection between the clubface and starting target. once that connection is felt, the only thing left to do is trust it and focus on good contact.*

beyond that there may be some affirmations to carry with you (its good to be nervous about important things. harness the adrenaline) (the training period is over. work within the framework of your best tools) these affirmations only serve to get us back to the proper focus, and i think that focus on the clubface and smallest possible starting target is the gateway to the zone.

*i find it helpful to focus on the connection between the clubs sweet spot and the center of the ball, but i think whatever works for you to consistently produce good contact should suffice.
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10-09-2023 , 08:52 PM
Competition is just totally different from a casual round with buddies. I've seen countless good players tend to shoot in the low 70's with buddies that can't break 80 in the club championship.

Part of it is preparation, if the CC is held from the back tees then you should always be playing the back tees. Otherwise you aren't prepared. You should always hole out all your putts in casual games like you have to in tournaments. You should always play it down, always take proper drops, etc. etc. etc.

If you don't treat casual rounds like competition, a tournament is going to feel like the moon and you'll play accordingly.

Furthermore, most casual golfers put too much emphasis on tournaments and they shouldn't. It's not going to change their lives good or bad. Wives and kids aren't going to leave if you play bad. Enjoy the competition and forget about it by the time you get home.
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10-12-2023 , 03:05 PM
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Enjoy the competition and forget about it by the time you get home.
man im still disappointed in myself that i airballed a free throw in front of a packed gym in 93. swished the 2nd, but still...
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10-14-2023 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by UnitedAs1


Interesting video this, I think many including me can relate.
bit of a bump after watching a bit of https://www.youtube.com/@AthleticMotionGolf stuff - I think it's a lot easier to achieve this "width" by totally concentrating on reduction of the left arm's movement across to the right, which means you have to turn more, and ignoring the "try to keep the right arm straighter" thing.
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10-19-2023 , 11:25 AM
Mega first world problem, even among first world problems as it relates to having multiple sets of clubs and going on golf trips. Shrug.


I'm building a backup set and got a pretty sweet set of old blades (MB 690s), have my last driver, a nice set of wedges and a putter all in the bag now.

I leave for a golf trip on 11/1 (golf on 11/2) and my plan was to ship them and use the backups for playing the weekend before.

Now I'm worried that playing with the backup (different shafts (for now)) will mess up my game for my trip.

So do I ship my clubs and use the backup and see how it goes or play my set the weekend before and fly with my clubs.
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10-19-2023 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by davmcg
bit of a bump after watching a bit of https://www.youtube.com/@AthleticMotionGolf stuff - I think it's a lot easier to achieve this "width" by totally concentrating on reduction of the left arm's movement across to the right, which means you have to turn more, and ignoring the "try to keep the right arm straighter" thing.
I think this has helped me a ton. Huge fan of AMG as well.

Realizing that the hands moving behind or in front of the ball has so much more to do with your rotation than it does your hands moving back or forward. The hands and arms should really just lift during the backswing then lower during the downswing, and the shoulders uncoiling and rotating through is most of the motion that gets the hands to and through the ball.
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10-27-2023 , 11:13 PM
I know a left-handed woman who wants to get some clubs and start hitting golf balls. No real background in golf. Since she's left-handed should she get left-handed clubs, or does it make more sense just to learn to play righty since long term it will be easier to find equipment?
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10-28-2023 , 11:12 AM
There is a ton of lefty equipment out there now, even for ladies. I would just keep her left handed.
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10-28-2023 , 12:36 PM
she's not a dog. maybe ask her if she minds being forced to play a sport from her non-dominate side so that $$ can be saved?

this was a troll right?
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10-28-2023 , 05:13 PM
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she's not a dog. maybe ask her if she minds being forced to play a sport from her non-dominate side so that $$ can be saved?

this was a troll right?
Im not sure what you mean. Phil is right handed so I assume you don’t have to play from your dominate hand side. Plus I doubt it would save money, but it would increase selection in the long run if she ends up getting serious about the game.
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10-28-2023 , 07:14 PM
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I know a left-handed woman who wants to get some clubs and start hitting golf balls. No real background in golf. Since she's left-handed should she get left-handed clubs, or does it make more sense just to learn to play righty since long term it will be easier to find equipment?
If she has no real background in golf, my suggestion would be to hand her a club (or a bat or something) and ask her to take some air swings. Forget about hitting a ball, just which side feels more natural to her. Then go with that side. It's not a slam dunk that it'll be lefty -- I'm right handed, batted baseball lefty, hockey lefty, golf righty.

Like Scott said, lefty equipment isn't as hard to find as it used to be. There were a lot of lefties in the ladies US Am.
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10-28-2023 , 07:24 PM
solid advice
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10-29-2023 , 12:20 PM
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solid advice
+1
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10-29-2023 , 09:00 PM
im having a hard time computing lefty hockey plus righty golf, but im boring. im righty everything even regular skateboard stance.

and the idea of her taking swings to choose sounds good.

me? no golf over a month i think. booo
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10-29-2023 , 09:54 PM
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im having a hard time computing lefty hockey plus righty golf, but im boring.
I bought a lefty driver off eBay a few years ago, wanted to see if I could solve a course management issue with it. Hit it okay, I guess, but not well enough to stick with it.

Spoiler:
My longtime home course had at least three holes that really set up to require a fade off the tee. For most of my golfing life my stock shot was a strong draw. Hook if I missed, straight ball sometimes, but a fade was a unicorn shot. Any one of those three holes ruined more rounds than the other 15 holes combined.

Figured there was a chance it would be the same from the other side, and it was worth a shot to see if I could hit a lefty draw when I needed a righty fade.

Took it to the range, hit a few to get used to swinging lefty and then got down to business. Alas, swinging lefty I discovered that I hit ... fades. Consistently. Dammit.

So much for 4D golf chess.
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