Tentative disagree. Possibly stronger if I had time to look up the relevant stats.

For a short-hitting amateur, the difference can be whether holes are reachable at all in regulation. Give me 10 balls on a 6500 and I can score. 7500, no chance.

I think that difference is going to be more pronounced than it is from pros hitting LW and GW instead of PW and 9i.

Even if you're a 10 handicap that can only hit it 230-240 off the tee, that means a 500 yard par 4 is still giving you like a 40-70 yard pitch shot in, where you're probably making par 95+% of the time.

10 wedges and 10 putts, especially when it's the same guy hitting all 10 and making the subtle adjustments is a huge difference.

Yeah I'm off 11 and hover around 10ish and I am way to short, Bit like Porter. Short game makes most of my handicap up,

Yeah that's where my head was at too. On the hardest hole, take 10 pitches from 50-100 yards, then take the best of the lot, and get 10 cracks at a putt. Feels like par is mostly a formality on most holes.

Golf Channel is showing the women's NCAA tournament. A little while ago during the broadcast they cut to Brooke Seay of Stanford to talk about an award she got from the NCAA for academics (4.00 GPA). While they're talking about it Seay steps up on a par 3 and promptly makes a hole in one. I believe it was live -- the timing was right and it said live on the screen -- and if so, how cool is that?

Someone at my club plays for FSU. Redshirt though, so not playing.

This is a fun event. Match play (8 teams) after today, win or go home. Since my team didn't make the finals I'm pulling for Stanford.

turns out one of the guys in my Bandon group met Periera back in 2006
it's worth noting the guy i know graduated college in '71 and currently plays off a 7, rounds at Bandon often in the low 70s from the white.

awesome

ha that's pretty incredible if it was live, good for her!

I love this:

shitty crop on picture, can't tell if training wheels

Ready to take my stupid golf nerdery to the next level, just placed an order for a Garmin Approach R10 launch monitor.


ETA: I may well go Skytrak when I'm (hopefully) ready to get a simulator built starting this fall, but this seems like a solid 'for now' option.

I just bought a new house and we move in on July 1st.

My first order of business is gauging how quickly we need to rebuild the garage so I can put a golf simulator above the garage.

Yeah almost pulled the trigger last month on a GC3 and a sim build in the house. Wife even gave it the OK, but I don't know if my hands and wrists would survive.

Limit yourself to X number of full swings a week.

Spend the rest of the time dialing in the wedges to JT-like levels of precision. Learn how to hit a 72 yard draw and a 74 yard fade.

Quick question…. Are you allowed to use the slope feature in general play rounds when putting in a card or not?


Also thinking of getting a range finder but want to spend big amounts on it… how decent are the lower budget ones, have any you’d recommend?

Yes

1 ball 2 cups?

King Solomon will have to divide the ball in two.

Anyone who said yes to this, is out of their mind. Those guys are so freaking good that even with ten shots you aren't competing on the tour. You have to remember that they shoot low 60s on the tour in tournament conditions. When they play practice rounds, rounds in the 50s are not that uncommon. I know of a kid in college that shot a 58 at Boulder Creek and he can't even buy a beer. I think a 5 handicap would have trouble shooting par in a PGA tour event hitting ten shots and taking the best one. The biggest factor that you don't realize is that there are two different games of golf. There is golf that you play with your friends and there is competitive tournament golf. They are two completely different games and the only way you can compete at tournament golf is through years of playing tournaments that aren't scrambles and no handicap is involved.

I'm a scratch golfer, played in college, and spent my youth playing as many tournaments as I could. I am comfortable playing tournaments but it took me 10 years of playing every tournament I could and I still don't play as well in tournaments as I do when I am playing a casual round. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think I would have any chance because the courses are set up more difficult for tour events. I played TPC Summerlin immediately after the JT and I shot 78 if I remember right. I remember the greens were rock hard and even my short irons would hit the green and bounce over. I was putting from the back of the green or chipping from the back of the green on almost every hole. I think if I had 10 shots on every hole and I was playing an official PGA Tour event, I would have to play well to shoot par. I'd birdie every par 5 though which would make it a par 68. This makes me want to try it out but obviously don't have a way to do that lol. Interesting question though.

I worked for someone close to Phil and I have never heard a negative thing about him. I have not met him but from what I hear, he is a stand up guy. I can confirm the gambling problem but that's not necessarily a flaw as long as his family has what they need and I know that they do. He is a family man and a good father, he will stay and sign autographs for hours at tour events and the people close to him only have good things to say about him from my experience. Nobody is perfect and if we had books written about us, I'm sure that it wouldn't be hard for the author to have something negative to write about. I don't put too much stock in these books where negativity appears to be the goal because they tend to sell more copies. He's human and I think an author could make anyone on this planet look great or look awful depending on what they wanted to focus on.

haha If I were King, I wouldn't give the idiot who picked up a ball on the course half. Some people will never learn to not pick up golf balls on the course.

Imagine on the putting green. You got a 50%+ chance of one putting almost everything inside 30 feet. That alone is worth what, 12 shots?

With proper strategy I imagine the worst score a 15 index would shoot on a typical PGA Tour layout is 72. Pars on almost every hole and a few birdies on the par 5s and short par 4s.

Endurance would play a part though.

I assumed endurance was not a factor, if we're meant to assume we have to hit say 250+ actual shots that is a totally different hypothetical.

I took the question to ask, what HCP would produce an expected result of a tour win given their shot patterns/dispersion/variance/whatever over a sample of 10 each swing. Still think that HCP is reasonably high if distance is not an issue.