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04-24-2022 , 05:50 PM
Mine broke on a driver swing, so no contact with the ground at all. Immediate pain. I took 4 weeks off, tried playing again, and failed. After another 6 weeks I finally went to an orthopedic guy and he was the one who said get a CT scan.
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04-24-2022 , 05:52 PM
Also, where that bone sits you are not going to be able to put pressure on it and say "right there" , if that is what it is.
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04-24-2022 , 06:03 PM
ugh, wonderful. i'll see how it feels tomorrow and go from there.
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04-24-2022 , 06:43 PM
best of luck nate
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04-24-2022 , 07:04 PM
thanks Red. first golf injury ever. i guess i was due
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04-24-2022 , 07:59 PM
i've never had the bone injury you and scott seem to have in common, but i have had tendon type forearm injuries and they suck. obv not a md, but i suggest shutting it all down for the next 4-6 weeks, maybe longer.
yeah, it's gunna suck but you'll be able to enjoy the second half of the season, if not more.
you go try to play a round or two right now and you just might have to kiss the entire season goodbye.
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04-24-2022 , 10:35 PM
I would just go to the doctor right away. It can't hurt, right?
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04-24-2022 , 10:47 PM
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I would just go to the doctor right away. It can't hurt, right?
That is almost what I would do. First, I would research the best orthopedic docs in my area to try to get an appt with him/her/their group. Even if you need to go see your PCP first to get a referral, you want to have input on whom you get referred to when/if that topic comes up.

If it's a break, it ain't gonna heal itself. Well, actually I think it will, but probably not in the optimal manner.

ETA: I broke my wrist in HS and there was no doubt about needing to see a doc immediately. Obviously different bones involved--or my low pain tolerance. Thank goodness there has been a lot of medical progress since those days!
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04-25-2022 , 06:51 AM
This is why I enjoy this forum....people actually are nice and care.

Update...woke up this morning and the pain is........gone! Well most of it anyway. I'd say it feels 95% fine. I'll monitor over the next few days but I think I'll be ok (knocks on wood).
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04-25-2022 , 07:14 AM
Yeah honestly if you feel the smallest thing again I would go see someone. I remember 2 years ago I was playing football/Soccer and I made a little jump and landed a bit weird and done my heel in, I rested it for a week or 2 and it seemed ok when walking but when I tried to play again it was still pretty bad. I did the same thing over a few times and instead of being out for like 2 months it took me a good 6 moths to recover.

My friend also had a injury to his wrist hitting of matts at the range, it took him a while to recover from it also as he never got treated for it.
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04-25-2022 , 09:44 AM
I got really bad wrist tendonitis like 3 years ago, and eventually saw an ortho doc through my pcp, and he saw the x-ray I'd done and immediately recommended surgery. I had only wanted an MRI, but he thought my ulnar bone was too long (and would need to be shaved down). He said an MRI wasn't necessary, but I pushed for one, and it showed just some tendonitis, and my hand was probably slightly misaligned for the x-ray. Needless to say I wasn't happy with that guy.

Eventually did PT, used this thing a lot https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...e?ie=UTF8&th=1

I also have been doing tons of biceps this winter with lots of eccentric focus and have basically eliminated all my wrist and golfers/tennis elbow issues.

Golf is really nasty on your body, people don't realize.
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04-25-2022 , 10:47 AM
Interesting you mention golfers elbow. In 2019-2020 I would start the early rounds of the season almost doubled over in pain after my first few swings. It would eventually improve, and then disappear as the season went on. Zero issues last year and this year. What a wacky game. And it's not like I changed anything in my arm or swing (that I know of).
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04-25-2022 , 01:17 PM
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Golf is really nasty on your body, people don't realize.
Any data to support this? It's not like golf is a high impact sport and if you eliminate the golf cart related injuries, then I can't imagine it's that bad.


Also, you don't want a hamate bone injury. IIRC, scott's recovery was ideal and it still look ~1 month of PT.
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04-25-2022 , 01:30 PM
I had a similar wrist sprain in my lead wrist after hitting a shot off a root two seasons ago, it took me about 6 weeks of not playing before I was comfortable swinging again.
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04-25-2022 , 01:53 PM
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I'm an old school guy too but you can't argue with the ball flight laws, they've been proven. I took it as an opportunity to learn something new and apply that to my game to make it better. I always used to believe when you have to really move the ball to point the feet where you want the ball to start and the club face where you want the ball to finish. But now we know that isn't true and I approach shots like this in the modern way now and I'm better off for it.

I think most golfers should know the very basic ideas of ball flight and leave it at that. Golfers think way too much as it is. Just keep it simple but don't teach things that are proven to be false.

TrackMan is a great tool if used correctly, it is very accurate. I used it countless times in my fitting days. But the average golfer can run into problems using it on the range because of the balls. Range balls react totally different than balls used on the course and TM will reflect that and show numbers that are not relevant on the course. There is a selection in the TM software where you can "normalize" the ball but I don't think it's perfect.

If one is going to use TM, always use the balls you play with when doing so.
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I don't agree that the ball flight laws have been proven. Here is what I don't understand and maybe you can answer it for me. You said that the ball flight laws have been proven to be wrong yet you said that you used to think that when you wanted to hit a fade you would aim your feet left of the target and aim the face where you want the ball to finish. When you did this, the ball went from left to right like you intended it to so why has that been proven false? What does trackman say is happening when you hit a fade and what swing thought do you have then to hit a fade with the new laws? I have worked for the top instructors in the world and the only time we used trackman or launch monitors was for fitting people for clubs and we always went by the golf ball as the barometer. 99% of players slice the ball and they slice the ball because they come over the top with the face open putting left to right spin on the ball. You are saying that that's not what is happening when someone slices? If that's the case then how come everytime someone comes to me with a slice, I can fix him in 10 minutes by making a few simple adjustments?
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I don’t agree that the earth orbits the sun. I have always been skeptical of the boiling temperature of water and I know in my heart that dinosaurs are a global mind control conspiracy perpetrated by big science.
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You also took a couple of words and used them out of context and don't understand what my overall point was...

...To be clear, I didn't mean that the ball flight laws are false. What my overall point was that you clearly didn't get is that it doesn't matter what is actually happening. All that matters is what the player feels like is happening.
not proven
not false

We're moving in the right direction. A couple more parody posts and appeal to authority based replies and we might land on...

true
useful

...but "useful" might be a bit redundant.

In your defense abc, making a big chunk of your income helping slicers is a perfect pretext for subscribing to a useful fiction like the old "laws."
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04-25-2022 , 04:29 PM
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Any data to support this? It's not like golf is a high impact sport and if you eliminate the golf cart related injuries, then I can't imagine it's that bad.


Also, you don't want a hamate bone injury. IIRC, scott's recovery was ideal and it still look ~1 month of PT.
It depends on how much you play, how hard you swing, how old you are... but it's a 1 sided motion that's pretty high exertion. If you go out and cruise once a week it probably won't cause you any real issues, but if you're playing 5 days a week, banging balls, and swinging hard, and/or carrying your bag it will cause stuff that needs addressing.

I'm not saying you're gonna break your back or anything, but it is tough on your body over time.
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04-25-2022 , 05:34 PM
So I feel like I'm falling down the swing change rabbit hole. I've been playing decent (for me), got my HC down to about a 13, but feel like I'm stuck there. Also feels like my ball striking is just so-so. Been chipping a lot better which has been a big help to my HC and has minimized the double-bogeys.

So I decided on a whim to try the Leadbetter A-swing after reading his book and practicing some of the basic moves in my basement. Took it to the range and had great contact with it, felt great. Contact was flush, swing speed and distance both seemed greater. Felt like maybe I had found the holy grail. But then when I took it to the course I started doing it incorrectly and hitting some horrific shanks. Stuck with it for the round and played terrible (shot a 95). So now I'm sort of wondering whether to continue with this and potentially get worse and try to work through it, or stick with my so-so swing that at least has gotten me down into the 80s.

Anyone been there? Any suggestions/tips? I feel like this swing has potential for me based on how I was flushing it on the range, it can't have been a mirage or an accident... but now I'm afraid to take it to the course because I fear the dreaded shanks.
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04-25-2022 , 05:38 PM
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Golf is really nasty on your body, people don't realize.
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Any data to support this? It's not like golf is a high impact sport and if you eliminate the golf cart related injuries, then I can't imagine it's that bad.
Golf is most definitely a high impact sports on certain parts of the body. The back of course, it's an unnatural twisting motion occurring at high speed. But the modern swing is really hard on the front knee, the snapping and jumping at impact. Guys that swing like Tiger and Justin Thomas will always have knee issues.

If you are steep on the downswing then you're eventually going to have wrist and elbow issues from the shock each and every time you hit a ball. If you have a strange, unnatural motion, you'll eventually have issues with parts of your body that is being unnaturally stressed.

Don't mistake a non-contact sport for not being high impact.
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04-25-2022 , 06:14 PM
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So I feel like I'm falling down the swing change rabbit hole. I've been playing decent (for me), got my HC down to about a 13, but feel like I'm stuck there. Also feels like my ball striking is just so-so. Been chipping a lot better which has been a big help to my HC and has minimized the double-bogeys.

So I decided on a whim to try the Leadbetter A-swing after reading his book and practicing some of the basic moves in my basement. Took it to the range and had great contact with it, felt great. Contact was flush, swing speed and distance both seemed greater. Felt like maybe I had found the holy grail. But then when I took it to the course I started doing it incorrectly and hitting some horrific shanks. Stuck with it for the round and played terrible (shot a 95). So now I'm sort of wondering whether to continue with this and potentially get worse and try to work through it, or stick with my so-so swing that at least has gotten me down into the 80s.

Anyone been there? Any suggestions/tips? I feel like this swing has potential for me based on how I was flushing it on the range, it can't have been a mirage or an accident... but now I'm afraid to take it to the course because I fear the dreaded shanks.
DO NOT take advice from Leadbetter. There is a reason that he was coaching PGA tour players, then there were none. He moved over to the LPGA, screwed up Lydia Ko for a long time, and now has nobody there either. Now he is hawking vids.

I have never been this passionate about something in my life ever. Run!
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04-25-2022 , 08:37 PM
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DO NOT take advice from Leadbetter. There is a reason that he was coaching PGA tour players, then there were none. He moved over to the LPGA, screwed up Lydia Ko for a long time, and now has nobody there either. Now he is hawking vids.

I have never been this passionate about something in my life ever. Run!
Ha OK I appreciate the warning!

I know Gankas likes the A swing (and it is somewhat similar to what Matthew Wolff does). Maybe Wolff is another bad example as he's routinely shooting in the 80s these days.

I think Ko is with Sean Foley these days and she seems to be trending back in the positive direction.
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04-25-2022 , 08:52 PM
Sad Panda

Gonna have to pass on golf tomorrow and possibly Thursday

Wife was sick last week. She goes in and no COVID and the diagnose as bronchitis. Son wakes up Sunday with a fever. He woke up with a 102 temp. Decide to give him a COVID test yesterday afternoon and he is positive. Test the wife to see, she is positive. I test negative. Booked a test at Walgreens today and I am negative. I have no symptoms.

So need to take a few days off to be safe. If I get it I hope it happens soon before I leave for Bandon a week from Thursday.
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04-25-2022 , 10:19 PM
glgl to all in the fam
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04-25-2022 , 11:00 PM
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Sad Panda

Gonna have to pass on golf tomorrow and possibly Thursday

Wife was sick last week. She goes in and no COVID and the diagnose as bronchitis. Son wakes up Sunday with a fever. He woke up with a 102 temp. Decide to give him a COVID test yesterday afternoon and he is positive. Test the wife to see, she is positive. I test negative. Booked a test at Walgreens today and I am negative. I have no symptoms.

So need to take a few days off to be safe. If I get it I hope it happens soon before I leave for Bandon a week from Thursday.
No fun for sure, a personal anecdote for reference.

Couple of months ago g/f went to family funeral, came back Monday and started feeling off that evening. Home tested Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday all negative while feeling pretty crappy with the knowledge at least three at the service already tested positive. She finally tested positive on Sunday. I had zero symptoms until Saturday evening and they were mild. After she tested positive I immediately tested and was also positive. No fewer than seven family members at the service eventually tested positive.

So she first tested positive 5 days after symptoms, I tested positive under 24 hours after symptoms. Odd. We slept in separate beds after she had symptoms, but living in the same house there's only so much you can do.

We are both triple vaxxed, my symptoms were mild throughout and lasted about five days. Perhaps weakish for another five but no big deal.

Symptoms or no symptoms, you will almost certainly test positive in the next few days. Only real reason you wouldn't would be if they both caught it from you last week and now you're free from the virus.

Good luck.
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04-26-2022 , 06:34 PM
I'm going to test again Thursday am. Still no symptoms 6 days after the wife first showed symptoms. Just 2 days after my son has right now though.

A buddy of mine had covid and his gf who lived in the same house never tested positive. So I guess there is some hope.
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05-01-2022 , 07:55 PM
As a strange and annoying consequence of the offseason I seem to have lost most of my ability to hit hybrids. It's not a complete surprise, I was a very late adopter due to extreme hybrid FAIL but I've had a couple seasons now where I have had hybrids I like and they've been the best clubs in my bag. I even went to a 3/4/5/6h setup. Now they're just taking up slots. I hit one hybrid in 10 holes yesterday and only because it was in a gap I didn't have covered with an iron. I got a good result (tee ball on a par 3) but it was an ugly shot that never got more than 3 feet in the air.

If it ever warms up a trip to the range is in order.
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