What did you guys make on that hole with the ball off the tee that you declared that you were going to play?

In a scramble that isn't run by the USGA I know what I would do

Booooooo this man

I haven't been keeping score a lot this year, but I did today. I shot a 39 on the front. Feeling good about my game, I pulled out the Pro V 1s. I hit it better than any other ball but because it's so expensive and because I lost so many last year, I haven't really bothered with them that much.

First shot on the 10th hole hits the cart path and bounces 30 ft in the air then hits again... And again. Fired one directly into a tree and another directly into the water. Yadda, yadda, yadda, I shot 51 on the back. On this course you really have to work hard to shoot a 51 on the back ����

been looking for a simple stat keeping app or it can be just windows based. I just want to enter hole by hole scores, fairways hit, and putts. I also want to see my avg score on holes. anything simple and easy to use out there? I tried the Grint and didn't like it too much

I use USHandicap.com and they track all of those stats and some up and downs etc. I think it's $30/yr

I use a spreadsheet for exactly this.

As soon as the ball entered the hole would it not mean that the team has "Holed out" and that any other actions (like playing other balls) are irrelevant, as the score for the hole is 1.

Once it is discovered that the ace occurred, would that not void any strokes that occurred after the player who hit the ace had played his shot?

I am thinking about a scramble when the team has a 30 foot putt. The first player putts it to 1 foot. He is not thinking and taps it in. The hole is over, is it not. The other players do not get a crack at the 30 foot putt. If they do putt and drain one, it does not matter. The hole was over with the tap in.

Is this not the same situation with an ace, even if it is discovered after other strokes are made?

Same with Golf Canada. I pay $35 a year.

Probably. And especially in a corporate event as was described. In some of the scrambles I've played, all hell would have broken loose. In others, there would have been no question at all that of course it should be scored as an ace.

As for the "first ball holed" scenario you offer, how about this one (actual scramble I played) that came to mind (although not directly comparable) when I made the previous post?

"Friendly" club event with money also wagered among most teams: "A" player on my team was a well-known cheat and angle-shooter. On the fifth hole we have two balls on the green; one 8-10 feet, and the "A" player's ball about 35 feet. As we are picking up balls and walking to the obvious ball to putt, "A" player makes a casual stroke of his ball toward the cup. It goes in. As the rest of us stand there incredulous, he walks to the cup, retrieves his ball, and heads for the carts. We stand there practically speechless but tell him we can't do that. He argues but eventually concedes, and we go back and putt the obvious ball.

Had my scenario happened in some sort of larger organized competition, I think the best course of action would be to DQ ourselves, but I'm not sure what rule would be applicable there either. Taking a practice putt? Our "A" player would have sworn under oath that it wasn't. Had he missed, the correct play would have been for the rest of us to putt from that spot. Murdering the cheat under cover of darkness probably would have been the best path.

ETA: Would the player's ball in OP not have been declared a lost ball? If that is the case, then what?

I am not sure. The scramble changes things a bit, as any ball you don't expect to play you just pick up. If you cant find one you don't have to declare it lost. Also, I don't think a ball is lost just by declaration anyway.

But, by playing another ball it does in fact make all other balls not in play?

I guess the whole argument would come down to whether the ace holing out ends the hole or not.

Another complication. Was there a requirement to use X number of tee shots per player? If so, that might throw a monkey wrench into things, as in using another player's tee shot there is an understood declaration that his/her ball is the one in play.

Good grief, that would be an absolute heartbreaker and a bad beat for the ages.

I think in almost all cases the ace mentioned above would stand without question. However, in a scramble against true competitors (read: *******s), I can see how the moment of a lifetime could be turned into something unnecessarily contentious.

I'm not a rules expert but I think this is correct.

I would think that for a scramble it does. No idea how you could argue otherwise.

And no problem afaik with other shots being played, I believe you're allowed to practice under scramble rules without penalty.

Luckily there was no issues raised by anyone - and with covid rules again he got out of it pretty cheap as he bought a huge tub full of beer for people to grab on their way out

It took all summer, but I finally developed a soft fade with my 567 irons. I’ve learned to control the natural draw with the 9 iron that is too upright for me. Pitching wedge needs work but it’s improving.

Short game needs lots of work. I don’t have a good place to practice with real grass. Mostly my chipping sucks. I get one or two close per round, the rest are pretty bad.

The solution is clearly to get better with irons = less chips per round. Ez game.

If there is no place nearby to practice chipping, is there a place to go that is a longer drive to get to and maybe you do it once a week and have a long practice session? I'd also recommend a lesson or 2 specifically on chipping.

Improving iron play can drop your scores dramatically, but its not a solution for a problem with chipping and pitching.

I got away with this approach for years as my home course had large greens and I was quite accurate with the irons. Now that I play a variety of courses many of which have small greens and my long game has gotten less consistent I'm finding that it's much, much harder to post a good score due to bad chipping and pitching.

Yeah I was being sarcastic. Lol.

How many of you go so far past parallel that you can see the club head in the corner of your eye? It a bit distracting, but feels right to me. I think I maintain tension well with my legs. My left heel doesn’t lift, but my pinky toe lifts laterally slightly. My right leg straightens slightly to accommodate the weight shift, but the knee doesn’t move laterally. This puts the bulk of the rotation on my hips and shoulders.

With that in mind, My upper left quad is in need of strengthening, which will help with flexibility. (Many think that bigger muscles are inflexible, but it’s the opposite. Long story short is that I need to squat deadlift and powerclean some weight. The effect will be that my legs and hips will scoff at the challenge of playing 18 holes. “Muahahaha”. -my lower body.

Lol.

Hello golf forumites,

I don’t know if you noticed (likely) that I’ve been golfing a ton, and posting a lot here. As the new guy in the forum I’d like to say that you seem like a nice bunch here. Truth is that I’m hiding from some harsh realities in the game. It’s an escape from the eternal crisis going on around me, a moment of peace and clarity among the suffering and confusion.

Cest la vie.

That 2 iron though wheee.

I definitely do not take the backswing far enough to see it in the corner of my eye. If anything I prefer to swing 3/4.

It only happens with 5 wood or longer club.

Went to bed at 1am. Woke at 5am. Was wide awake so I made coffee and played 18 already.

story time:

i rented an apartment in 2006, but i didn't have a couch. I'm not too proud, so my brother dropped off a sidewalk free couch onto my front lawn while i was at work. the thing was pretty gross lol, so i cleaned it out. among all of the empty cigarette packs, candy wrappers, and assorted trash, i found a coin. it was so dirty and gross that i had to wash it off in the sink with soap and water. much to my surprise, it happened to be a rookie year Bo Jackson commemorative coin. i shined it up nicely and began to carry it wherever i went. bo became my childhood hero when I read Bo Knows Bo around 1994, so it seemed perfect to me that I had stumbled across this coin. the guy was such a beast. its a shame that his careers were cut short due to the injury.

I don't carry it with me everywhere these days, but i do use it for my ball marker on the golf course. bo helps to remind me of whats important(not golf) as do the pictures of dogs that i have in the see through mesh pocket of my golf bag.

also im pretty damn good at flipping it straight up in the air and catching it, so i got that going for me.

sometimes people notice the coin and they ask about it. i don't tell them the whole story. i just say yeah that's Bo Jackson, usually right before i fire a putt 10 feet past the hole. lol.

fire a putt so hard it runs along the outfield wall