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Old 05-20-2020, 08:14 PM   #13426
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I either read or watched something the other day about iron distances. You can easily have people with the same driver distance be 2 clubs different in the irons. It's all about how hard you go after your irons.

Come to think of it it might have been a post on WRX. Someone was comparing swing speeds. Both had 110 with the driver and their 7 iron speeds were 6 mph different.
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Old 05-20-2020, 10:16 PM   #13427
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But the tech you see, it makes that 5i that they stamped a 7 on fly and land like a 7i of yore.
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Old 05-21-2020, 12:06 AM   #13428
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But the tech you see, it makes that 5i that they stamped a 7 on fly and land like a 7i of yore.
Yeah thatís why Iím so interested in this topic...I struggle a bit with my anything longer than a 7-iron and am really quite good with 7-pw.

If I were to get 20 extra yards with a juiced 7 iron and hit it like my 7 iron now as opposed to my 5 iron, thatíd be a game changer. And this has at least made me feel good, knowing that Iím (probably) not really inadequately short, but just using ďoldĒ equipment.
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Old 05-22-2020, 04:02 PM   #13429
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Yeah that’s why I’m so interested in this topic...I struggle a bit with my anything longer than a 7-iron and am really quite good with 7-pw.

If I were to get 20 extra yards with a juiced 7 iron and hit it like my 7 iron now as opposed to my 5 iron, that’d be a game changer. And this has at least made me feel good, knowing that I’m (probably) not really inadequately short, but just using “old” equipment.

My case is more extreme than yours. My clubs were 20 years old...maybe more. I lost track of how long I had them, but they were Titleist DCI, the first year they came out w/ DCI. I got them and have used them up until 2 years ago when I was finally fit for new irons.

When I hit them side by side 2 years ago after my P790s were delivered, there was literally a 2 club difference between the P790 and the DCI. On top of that I was so much more accurate w/ the new P790s.

Go get a fitting, but it's like going to the dog pound to "look at dogs." Don't go unless you plan on spending the money, because you will probably be hooked right away on the new clubs!

Good luck and let us know what happens.
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Old 05-22-2020, 05:28 PM   #13430
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Crazy! Unfortunately my fitting would likely be extremely boring. Either the Titleist guy was a fraud, or I'm just an extremely average person, because I was stock everything.

The p790 7 iron is 5 degrees less loft than the AP2 I'm hitting, which is probably a club and a half. That's insane! Not even accounting for other new technology. That means I'd be hitting it 165-170? hard to fathom.
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Old 05-22-2020, 09:49 PM   #13431
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Crazy! Unfortunately my fitting would likely be extremely boring. Either the Titleist guy was a fraud, or I'm just an extremely average person, because I was stock everything.

The p790 7 iron is 5 degrees less loft than the AP2 I'm hitting, which is probably a club and a half. That's insane! Not even accounting for other new technology. That means I'd be hitting it 165-170? hard to fathom.
Even if you end of with stock everything its still worth paying for the fitting because you know you have the right equipment.
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Old 05-23-2020, 10:36 AM   #13432
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Couple of interesting (and related) golf podcasts I listened to recently...

Malcolm Gladwell re-aired an episode called A Good Walk Spoiled on his Revisionist History podcast. Evidently it is one of his most popular episodes as voted on by his listeners. Essentially Gladwell's rant about all the reasons why golf sucks and is a stupid sport for the rich, white, and entitled. He does make some valid points about the ludicrous tax advantages offered to places like the Brentwood Country Club.

The guys at The Drop Zone podcast then did a response, talking about the stuff Gladwell got wrong about golf (a lot), as well as the areas where they agreed with him. It was good.

BTW the Drop Zone is an excellent show that I highly recommend. They did a great interview with Joel Dahmen a few months back, about being a "regular", relatively anonymous member of the PGA tour. Dahmen is a great interview and I became a fan of his after listening.
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Old 05-23-2020, 11:01 AM   #13433
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Crazy! Unfortunately my fitting would likely be extremely boring. Either the Titleist guy was a fraud, or I'm just an extremely average person, because I was stock everything.

The p790 7 iron is 5 degrees less loft than the AP2 I'm hitting, which is probably a club and a half. That's insane! Not even accounting for other new technology. That means I'd be hitting it 165-170? hard to fathom.
Your Titleist fitter only had a few shafts to choose from, only the ones that Titleist offers which wasn't that many at the time. And only Titleist heads as well. So a fitting like that is extremely limited.

As far as iron fitting, figuring out the head is the easy part. Figuring out the shaft is the tricky and probably more important part. You probably can gain almost two clubs with a good fitting, the question is can you be consistent with the distance in doing so. It doesn't make any difference if you can hit a 7-iron 175 one time and then 155 the next.

FWIW, at 5'10" 165 lbs, my stock distance for a Ping i210 7-iron(33 degrees) with a 105 gram Nippon steel shaft is 170 yards. You can't necessarily compare driver distance, it's all about learning how to properly compress the ball between the blade and the ground with irons. You don't swing up on it like a driver. I can hit a club like the Ping g710(29.5 degrees, hollow body) with a lighter graphite shaft 190 yards, but it's not as easy to control the numbers.

If you want to get fit correctly in the DFW area, I can tell you where. It's $150 for an iron fitting which does not go towards the purchase of any clubs. The builders are the best I've seen, you wouldn't want to take the specs and have someone else try to cobble the components together.
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Old 05-23-2020, 01:03 PM   #13434
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All I can say is I did an iron fitting last fall at Club Champion. I was still carrying Pings from like 2004 some with replaced shafts, etc

The end product has been a revelation. Iron play went from far and away the weakest part of my game to somewhat of a strength. I hover between a 2 and a 3 fwiw though I expect that to improve this summer. I was ~+3 when I was playing.

My perspective is that the shaft tech is the largest improvement since I was last "fitted".

Great experience. Highly recommend
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Old 05-23-2020, 09:40 PM   #13435
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Couple of interesting (and related) golf podcasts I listened to recently...

Malcolm Gladwell re-aired an episode called A Good Walk Spoiled on his Revisionist History podcast. Evidently it is one of his most popular episodes as voted on by his listeners. Essentially Gladwell's rant about all the reasons why golf sucks and is a stupid sport for the rich, white, and entitled. He does make some valid points about the ludicrous tax advantages offered to places like the Brentwood Country Club.

The guys at The Drop Zone podcast then did a response, talking about the stuff Gladwell got wrong about golf (a lot), as well as the areas where they agreed with him. It was good.

BTW the Drop Zone is an excellent show that I highly recommend. They did a great interview with Joel Dahmen a few months back, about being a "regular", relatively anonymous member of the PGA tour. Dahmen is a great interview and I became a fan of his after listening.
I love podcasts and am definitely interested in this. However when I searched The Drop Zone on Podcast Addict a soccer podcast game up
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Old 05-23-2020, 10:59 PM   #13436
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https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...t/id1004688973
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Old 05-24-2020, 08:43 AM   #13437
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Got it thanks. Any other good golf podcasts you recommend?
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Old 05-26-2020, 02:19 PM   #13438
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Your Titleist fitter only had a few shafts to choose from, only the ones that Titleist offers which wasn't that many at the time. And only Titleist heads as well. So a fitting like that is extremely limited.

As far as iron fitting, figuring out the head is the easy part. Figuring out the shaft is the tricky and probably more important part. You probably can gain almost two clubs with a good fitting, the question is can you be consistent with the distance in doing so. It doesn't make any difference if you can hit a 7-iron 175 one time and then 155 the next.

FWIW, at 5'10" 165 lbs, my stock distance for a Ping i210 7-iron(33 degrees) with a 105 gram Nippon steel shaft is 170 yards. You can't necessarily compare driver distance, it's all about learning how to properly compress the ball between the blade and the ground with irons. You don't swing up on it like a driver. I can hit a club like the Ping g710(29.5 degrees, hollow body) with a lighter graphite shaft 190 yards, but it's not as easy to control the numbers.

If you want to get fit correctly in the DFW area, I can tell you where. It's $150 for an iron fitting which does not go towards the purchase of any clubs. The builders are the best I've seen, you wouldn't want to take the specs and have someone else try to cobble the components together.
Can you PM me info? I'm definitely interested.

Here's my weakass 7 iron by the way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNWFKYixsNY
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Old 05-26-2020, 04:29 PM   #13439
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Love the name of the video. MISC/RANDOM/BS Golf Chatter Thread
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Old 05-27-2020, 12:23 AM   #13440
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Old 05-30-2020, 09:53 PM   #13441
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If your only shot is the chunk and run, youíre not using the bounce of your sand wedge correctly.

If one has enough clubhead speed, I can teach them to hit a proper sand shot in 5 minutes without fail. Itís all about understanding the physics of the shot. And then that can be applied to pitch shots as well.
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Old 05-31-2020, 12:18 AM   #13442
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My dad died 9 years ago and for the last 2 years on or near his birthday I play a round with his clubs. He had a Ram set. I think it is investor? A good old-fashioned wooden driver. when you hit it on the screws it makes that nice thunk sound and it feels so good.

He also had a one-iron. ERS I think is the brand. I never hit a one-iron before last year when I used it and I remember hitting it pretty well. I also hit it great today. Straight as an arrow. I don't know how far it was supposed to go, but I hit it 210. I hit my epic 5W 210-215, but it's not always accurate. 3W about 215-220.

I prefer hitting irons. I had a long game fitting last year, but never hit a 1 iron or 2 iron. Do they still make them? What is the equivalent club these days?

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Old 05-31-2020, 10:53 AM   #13443
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My dad died 9 years ago and for the last 2 years on or near his birthday I play a round with his clubs. He had a Ram set. I think it is investor? A good old-fashioned wooden driver. when you hit it on the screws it makes that nice thunk sound and it feels so good.

He also had a one-iron. ERS I think is the brand. I never hit a one-iron before last year when I used it and I remember hitting it pretty well. I also hit it great today. Straight as an arrow. I don't know how far it was supposed to go, but I hit it 210. I hit my epic 5W 210-215, but it's not always accurate. 3W about 215-220.

I prefer hitting irons. I had a long game fitting last year, but never hit a 1 iron or 2 iron. Do they still make them? What is the equivalent club these days?
I found the answer from my club fitter in an email.

The 5 Wood is much more forgiving and will give you the ball speed and height that we weren't getting out of the long iron.

So I guess that's why I don't have a 3 iron or driving iron

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Old 05-31-2020, 03:44 PM   #13444
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LOL I just sold a 2 iron I had yesterday. Even with today's technology they are hard AF to hit. When you hit it good there is not better feeling in the world. When you hit it like **** there is nothing worse. My misses were shots I couldn't have in my game so I sold it.
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Old 05-31-2020, 06:50 PM   #13445
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anyone around here ever play with hickories? the older guys in my group all have a cobbled together set and will used them on certain courses that don't have a lot of forced carries or hazards. i've never played a full round with them but have tried them out on the range a few times and they're a blast.
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Hybrids are so easy to hit I can't see messing around with long irons.
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anyone around here ever play with hickories? the older guys in my group all have a cobbled together set and will used them on certain courses that don't have a lot of forced carries or hazards. i've never played a full round with them but have tried them out on the range a few times and they're a blast.
I have an old set that my dad had that I played a few rounds with years ago just for the heck of it. I don't recall much about it other than I really sprayed them everywhere. I was afraid I would snap them, so I put them away. Still have them in a closet.
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ever swing an orange whip? it's somewhat similar. you can really feel the flex in the shaft and can't go after it.
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