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05-22-2020 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by POKEROMGLOL
Crazy! Unfortunately my fitting would likely be extremely boring. Either the Titleist guy was a fraud, or I'm just an extremely average person, because I was stock everything.

The p790 7 iron is 5 degrees less loft than the AP2 I'm hitting, which is probably a club and a half. That's insane! Not even accounting for other new technology. That means I'd be hitting it 165-170? hard to fathom.
Even if you end of with stock everything its still worth paying for the fitting because you know you have the right equipment.
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05-23-2020 , 10:36 AM
Couple of interesting (and related) golf podcasts I listened to recently...

Malcolm Gladwell re-aired an episode called A Good Walk Spoiled on his Revisionist History podcast. Evidently it is one of his most popular episodes as voted on by his listeners. Essentially Gladwell's rant about all the reasons why golf sucks and is a stupid sport for the rich, white, and entitled. He does make some valid points about the ludicrous tax advantages offered to places like the Brentwood Country Club.

The guys at The Drop Zone podcast then did a response, talking about the stuff Gladwell got wrong about golf (a lot), as well as the areas where they agreed with him. It was good.

BTW the Drop Zone is an excellent show that I highly recommend. They did a great interview with Joel Dahmen a few months back, about being a "regular", relatively anonymous member of the PGA tour. Dahmen is a great interview and I became a fan of his after listening.
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05-23-2020 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by POKEROMGLOL
Crazy! Unfortunately my fitting would likely be extremely boring. Either the Titleist guy was a fraud, or I'm just an extremely average person, because I was stock everything.

The p790 7 iron is 5 degrees less loft than the AP2 I'm hitting, which is probably a club and a half. That's insane! Not even accounting for other new technology. That means I'd be hitting it 165-170? hard to fathom.
Your Titleist fitter only had a few shafts to choose from, only the ones that Titleist offers which wasn't that many at the time. And only Titleist heads as well. So a fitting like that is extremely limited.

As far as iron fitting, figuring out the head is the easy part. Figuring out the shaft is the tricky and probably more important part. You probably can gain almost two clubs with a good fitting, the question is can you be consistent with the distance in doing so. It doesn't make any difference if you can hit a 7-iron 175 one time and then 155 the next.

FWIW, at 5'10" 165 lbs, my stock distance for a Ping i210 7-iron(33 degrees) with a 105 gram Nippon steel shaft is 170 yards. You can't necessarily compare driver distance, it's all about learning how to properly compress the ball between the blade and the ground with irons. You don't swing up on it like a driver. I can hit a club like the Ping g710(29.5 degrees, hollow body) with a lighter graphite shaft 190 yards, but it's not as easy to control the numbers.

If you want to get fit correctly in the DFW area, I can tell you where. It's $150 for an iron fitting which does not go towards the purchase of any clubs. The builders are the best I've seen, you wouldn't want to take the specs and have someone else try to cobble the components together.
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05-23-2020 , 01:03 PM
All I can say is I did an iron fitting last fall at Club Champion. I was still carrying Pings from like 2004 some with replaced shafts, etc

The end product has been a revelation. Iron play went from far and away the weakest part of my game to somewhat of a strength. I hover between a 2 and a 3 fwiw though I expect that to improve this summer. I was ~+3 when I was playing.

My perspective is that the shaft tech is the largest improvement since I was last "fitted".

Great experience. Highly recommend
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05-23-2020 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Couple of interesting (and related) golf podcasts I listened to recently...

Malcolm Gladwell re-aired an episode called A Good Walk Spoiled on his Revisionist History podcast. Evidently it is one of his most popular episodes as voted on by his listeners. Essentially Gladwell's rant about all the reasons why golf sucks and is a stupid sport for the rich, white, and entitled. He does make some valid points about the ludicrous tax advantages offered to places like the Brentwood Country Club.

The guys at The Drop Zone podcast then did a response, talking about the stuff Gladwell got wrong about golf (a lot), as well as the areas where they agreed with him. It was good.

BTW the Drop Zone is an excellent show that I highly recommend. They did a great interview with Joel Dahmen a few months back, about being a "regular", relatively anonymous member of the PGA tour. Dahmen is a great interview and I became a fan of his after listening.
I love podcasts and am definitely interested in this. However when I searched The Drop Zone on Podcast Addict a soccer podcast game up
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05-24-2020 , 08:43 AM
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Got it thanks. Any other good golf podcasts you recommend?
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05-26-2020 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ntnBO
Your Titleist fitter only had a few shafts to choose from, only the ones that Titleist offers which wasn't that many at the time. And only Titleist heads as well. So a fitting like that is extremely limited.

As far as iron fitting, figuring out the head is the easy part. Figuring out the shaft is the tricky and probably more important part. You probably can gain almost two clubs with a good fitting, the question is can you be consistent with the distance in doing so. It doesn't make any difference if you can hit a 7-iron 175 one time and then 155 the next.

FWIW, at 5'10" 165 lbs, my stock distance for a Ping i210 7-iron(33 degrees) with a 105 gram Nippon steel shaft is 170 yards. You can't necessarily compare driver distance, it's all about learning how to properly compress the ball between the blade and the ground with irons. You don't swing up on it like a driver. I can hit a club like the Ping g710(29.5 degrees, hollow body) with a lighter graphite shaft 190 yards, but it's not as easy to control the numbers.

If you want to get fit correctly in the DFW area, I can tell you where. It's $150 for an iron fitting which does not go towards the purchase of any clubs. The builders are the best I've seen, you wouldn't want to take the specs and have someone else try to cobble the components together.
Can you PM me info? I'm definitely interested.

Here's my weakass 7 iron by the way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNWFKYixsNY
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05-26-2020 , 04:29 PM
Love the name of the video. MISC/RANDOM/BS Golf Chatter Thread
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05-27-2020 , 12:23 AM
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Got it thanks. Any other good golf podcasts you recommend?
Shotgun Start
Fried Egg
No Laying Up
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05-30-2020 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ntnBO
If your only shot is the chunk and run, you’re not using the bounce of your sand wedge correctly.

If one has enough clubhead speed, I can teach them to hit a proper sand shot in 5 minutes without fail. It’s all about understanding the physics of the shot. And then that can be applied to pitch shots as well.
You gotta spill the beans brah
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05-31-2020 , 12:18 AM
My dad died 9 years ago and for the last 2 years on or near his birthday I play a round with his clubs. He had a Ram set. I think it is investor? A good old-fashioned wooden driver. when you hit it on the screws it makes that nice thunk sound and it feels so good.

He also had a one-iron. ERS I think is the brand. I never hit a one-iron before last year when I used it and I remember hitting it pretty well. I also hit it great today. Straight as an arrow. I don't know how far it was supposed to go, but I hit it 210. I hit my epic 5W 210-215, but it's not always accurate. 3W about 215-220.

I prefer hitting irons. I had a long game fitting last year, but never hit a 1 iron or 2 iron. Do they still make them? What is the equivalent club these days?

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05-31-2020 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by otter
My dad died 9 years ago and for the last 2 years on or near his birthday I play a round with his clubs. He had a Ram set. I think it is investor? A good old-fashioned wooden driver. when you hit it on the screws it makes that nice thunk sound and it feels so good.

He also had a one-iron. ERS I think is the brand. I never hit a one-iron before last year when I used it and I remember hitting it pretty well. I also hit it great today. Straight as an arrow. I don't know how far it was supposed to go, but I hit it 210. I hit my epic 5W 210-215, but it's not always accurate. 3W about 215-220.

I prefer hitting irons. I had a long game fitting last year, but never hit a 1 iron or 2 iron. Do they still make them? What is the equivalent club these days?
I found the answer from my club fitter in an email.

The 5 Wood is much more forgiving and will give you the ball speed and height that we weren't getting out of the long iron.

So I guess that's why I don't have a 3 iron or driving iron

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05-31-2020 , 03:44 PM
LOL I just sold a 2 iron I had yesterday. Even with today's technology they are hard AF to hit. When you hit it good there is not better feeling in the world. When you hit it like **** there is nothing worse. My misses were shots I couldn't have in my game so I sold it.
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05-31-2020 , 06:50 PM
anyone around here ever play with hickories? the older guys in my group all have a cobbled together set and will used them on certain courses that don't have a lot of forced carries or hazards. i've never played a full round with them but have tried them out on the range a few times and they're a blast.
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06-01-2020 , 08:40 AM
Hybrids are so easy to hit I can't see messing around with long irons.
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06-01-2020 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by REDeYeS88
anyone around here ever play with hickories? the older guys in my group all have a cobbled together set and will used them on certain courses that don't have a lot of forced carries or hazards. i've never played a full round with them but have tried them out on the range a few times and they're a blast.
I have an old set that my dad had that I played a few rounds with years ago just for the heck of it. I don't recall much about it other than I really sprayed them everywhere. I was afraid I would snap them, so I put them away. Still have them in a closet.
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06-01-2020 , 07:53 PM
ever swing an orange whip? it's somewhat similar. you can really feel the flex in the shaft and can't go after it.
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06-02-2020 , 06:11 AM
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06-02-2020 , 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by scottc25
LOL I just sold a 2 iron I had yesterday. Even with today's technology they are hard AF to hit. When you hit it good there is not better feeling in the world. When you hit it like **** there is nothing worse. My misses were shots I couldn't have in my game so I sold it.
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Hybrids are so easy to hit I can't see messing around with long irons.
Thanks. Maybe I just had a few lucky shots.
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06-02-2020 , 08:14 PM
What club do you use for chipping and what is the loft? At what yardage do you switch to a higher lofted club? For 25 years I used my Titleist DCI PW, 48° for chip shots probably within 20-25 yards (I don't know what yardage it is considered a pitch shot). I like to bring in the ball low, not pop it up and land it next to the pin. 25-50 yards was a Titleist 56° wedge. I was always decent 25-50 yards and very good the closer I got to the green.

Now I have P790s and my chipping especially isn't as good. With the PW, 45° the ball always goes too far and low and with the A wedge, 50° I tend to pop it up too high and always leave it short.

I'm getting a wedge fitting and am looking forward to that. Actually, would they modify the lofts of one of my current clubs if necessary, or is it usually only to fill in the clubs after the A wedge? Carl's Golfland is where I'm going. I would like a club that works near the green like my old DCI PW and have briefly considered putting it in the bag just for the closer chip shots, but that would kind of be a waste of a club. If I have to toss the A wedge and get 3 other wedges that's fine w/ me. I'm not married to the A wedge at all. It was part of the set I was fit for when I had an iron fitting. To be clear, I wasn't specifically fit for that loft in an A wedge. They were just filling out the set.
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06-02-2020 , 08:37 PM
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LOL...i sooooo almost went there but decided not to.
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06-02-2020 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by otter
What club do you use for chipping and what is the loft? At what yardage do you switch to a higher lofted club? For 25 years I used my Titleist DCI PW, 48° for chip shots probably within 20-25 yards (I don't know what yardage it is considered a pitch shot). I like to bring in the ball low, not pop it up and land it next to the pin. 25-50 yards was a Titleist 56° wedge. I was always decent 25-50 yards and very good the closer I got to the green.

Now I have P790s and my chipping especially isn't as good. With the PW, 45° the ball always goes too far and low and with the A wedge, 50° I tend to pop it up too high and always leave it short.

I'm getting a wedge fitting and am looking forward to that. Actually, would they modify the lofts of one of my current clubs if necessary, or is it usually only to fill in the clubs after the A wedge? Carl's Golfland is where I'm going. I would like a club that works near the green like my old DCI PW and have briefly considered putting it in the bag just for the closer chip shots, but that would kind of be a waste of a club. If I have to toss the A wedge and get 3 other wedges that's fine w/ me. I'm not married to the A wedge at all. It was part of the set I was fit for when I had an iron fitting. To be clear, I wasn't specifically fit for that loft in an A wedge. They were just filling out the set.
wedges aren't just about loft

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06-02-2020 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by REDeYeS88
wedges aren't just about loft

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😂😂😂. I guess I'll learn more about that from the fitting and what bounce works best for me. I like chip shots to run out, not check up. How new (or old) is the concept of bounce with a wedge anyway?
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06-03-2020 , 08:19 AM
Has anyone used one? Seems like it would be fun for about 4 holes

ESPN: How a pandemic could be forever altering the golf cart.
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id...ring-golf-cart
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