Understood. I bleed, and I mean bleed, shots around the green.

Driver is fine and usually in play. Putting is fine to good. My Echelon irons have been my strength. I just have to think that technology alone will save me a stroke per 9. (I'm not expecting to drop 10 shots per round due to new irons.)

FWIW I went to simulator today and hit driver. It's a Calloway, 2014 model?

Average distance 252 yards
Longest 284 yards
Average movement 23 feet right to left
Average offline 28 yards left
Average ball MPH 144
Launch 7.2°
Spin rate 3031

I'm just throwing this stuff out there as I plan on golfing a ton this year and am looking for any possible insight others may have.

I plan on practicing chipping for hours every weekend and also plan on getting lessons again.

I think it will come down to how well your new irons fit you compared to how your old ones fit.

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They may not benefit you at all. In fact, they may make you worse because you've adapted your swing to work with those old ones. You will probably gain some distance and even some consistency in distance, but just buying a random set of irons won't help you unless you get the correct shafts in them with the correct lie angles and shaft flex to match your swing. Good luck and hopefully you like them.

I'm currently playing my driver as a 7 degree. I've had a lot of great driving rounds with it but last 2 I've battled some slices which I never used to hit, always a hooker/straight left off the tee.

I have been teeing it down lately as well which has helped with control but I always keep the ball near my inside left heel..maybe I'll try to move it higher up and really try to hit up on it.

I'll get back on the trackman this week and take a video or two. I went into my last 2 hour trackman sesh with no energy and no idea what the numbers were telling me so now that I do I can experiment and spend less time wasting swings and one solid hour of productive work.


One plus is I'm very consistent. Always have had about -2 inches of roll on all my drives. 250 carry, ball mark, backspin.. for years..I just keep buying low launch, low spin driver shafts to see if it'll fix it.

Obviously a shaft/head can only do so much. Some players have technique that imparts high spin. I would suggest trying to fix the issue rather than merely applying a band-aid.

Naturally easier said than done.

no roll on a drive, what in the world

My drive goes backwards too. My ball is always behind the divot it makes.

wtf, get them hands forward through the ball. probably giving up 30 yards

oh forgot to mention, the guy i've been pushing from time to time for online lessons just got a new head pro gig and they just finished building out his space. check it out...



still does the online lessons, just busier now.

Where might I find a new Vokey SM6, 54/10? Other than Amazon and eBay

My sister found it for me at golf discount.com for $95....I don't know how it's possible to be a bad googler, but I am. I spent a few hours trying to find it

Guys, should I update my Cleveland wedges? I still have an original RTG 60 and a TSC 56 lol. I wonder how ****ty the grooves are.



(rhetorical, of course I should replace them)

Definitely too much spin. I would get a lesson and ask to specifically work on correcting that part. You are likely losing 20+ yards as someone else mentioned because of being too steep or whatever it is.

Agreed. I will.. I'm actually one of the longest drivers at my club, there's a few short 275-300~ par 4's that I've reached greens on many times..even a few this winter with 40 degree air...but def throwing way too much spin on it.

Going to work with the trackman and our club pro for a bit on it but his times to use the trackman are always weekday 8-5 and its hard for me to get in there.. either way I agree, if I can start hitting up on the ball I bet I could see some freakishly long numbers.

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Haven't taken any recent vids in awhile but for the most part I doubt my swing has changed much since I'm self taught and this is what I have molded myself into at this point..

New shaft, new driver..pretty much same swing. Advice welcome, I'm pretty sure my hands are ahead through the ball and it's def not helping me hit up on the ball. And I keep the ball on my front inside foot every time.



I'm def band-aiding my swing...low spin/low launch driver shaft. 9 degree M3 that's adjusted to a 7 degree ATM..still gettin tons of spin.

While I'm ranting..

Anyone got a Stroke Lab Shaft or Stability Shaft for the putter?


Worth it switch shafts and putting it into your existing putter head?

if you can already control a 275-300 yard drive, screw the extra roll out and don't screw with it imo.

Ugh I suck again. I have a FL mid-am qualifier followed by member/member in the next two weeks and it's not looking too pretty right now.

sucking it merely a state of mind, **** that ****.
you know your potential and how good you can be...the rest is mental bull****

Why are they playing the mid am so early? In Colorado they play it late in the season closer to the US mid am.

Don't know CO's schedule but they play so many different events here at the amateur, mid-am, mid-senior, senior, and super senior level.

https://www.fsga.org/TournamentCateg...?year=2019&p=1

Has anyone tried putting with both index fingers pointed towards the ground. Was trying to find anything in my 30 minutes on the practice green tonight and it felt pretty good.

I have always pointed my right index finger towards the ground. Both pointed towards the ground feels odd.