since i have the last post in the previous thread, i'll just quote it here since nothing's changed.

i've tracked/mentioned this stat before...

kenny perry shot a 60 today on champions tour. 5 strokes better than anyone else in the field....

i remember once that delaet was 5 strokes better and i think others had done it. delaet's doing it was what got me thinking.

we tried to figure out if geiberger's 59 was 6 strokes better than field but can't remember the conclusion

ok, it looks like geiberger's 59 and furyk's 59 (59, NOT 58) were 6 strokes better than field.

not exactly sure how old the article was but it listed alot of sub-60 rounds and none of the others were 6 strokes better. and i don't think furyk's 58 was 6 strokes better...... alot of sub-60 rounds were 4 or 5 strokes better.

apparently one of the best rounds vs. player average (different than the stat i mentioned in previous posts) was ken duke shooting 65 at TPC. obviously scores very high... or another excellent score vs. field was Jager in web.com bahamas way 7 or strokes better than field at 71. remember my acquaintences shooting horrible scores in that event.

Someone in Houston shot a 65 when the wind blew like crazy. Scores were super high that day.

Things I think:
Jesper Parnevik
4th Round
2005 or so

I remember olazabal doing something like that, don't remember where or exactly the number, but it was like a 63 with barely any other scores in the 60s.

Was the Bahamas one a couple of years ago with like a 40 mph wind?

From a totally non-systematic and non-scientific search:


Having Best Round by 6 Strokes:

Al Geiberger, 1977 Danny Thomas Memphis Classic (Colonial C.C. South), Second Round, 59 [65 by Ray Floyd]

Jim Furyk, 2013 BMW Championship (Conway Farms, Lake Forest, IL), Second Round, 59 [65 by Jordan Spieth & Jimmy Walker]


Having Best Round by 5 Strokes:

Tommy Armour, 1933 US Open (North Shore CC, Glenview, IL), First Round, 68 [73 by six golfers including Walter Hagen]

Craig Wood, 1941 Masters (Augusta, GA), First Round, 66 [71 by Willie Goggin, Ben Hogan, Lawson Little, Byron Nelson]

Johnny Miller, 1975 Dean Martin Tucson Open (Tucson National), Fourth Round, 61 [66 by Bruce Crampton & Rod Funseth]

David Duval, 1990 Bob Hope Chrysler Classic (PGA West/Palmer Course, La Quinta, CA), 5th & Final Round, 59 [64 by Paul Goydos & Steve Stricker]


Having Best Round by 4 Strokes:

Jose Maria Olazabal, 1990 World Series of Golf (Firestone South, Akron, OH), First Round, 61 [65 by Payne Stewart]

Chip Beck, 1991 Las Vegas Invitational (Sunrise GC), Third Round, 59 [63 by Steve Jones, Tommy Armour III, Mike Standly]

Stuart Appleby, 2010 Greenbrier Classic (TPC Old White), Fourth Round, 59 [63 Woody Austin]

Jim Furyk, 2016 Travelers (TPC River Highlands, Cromwell, CT), Fourth Round, 58 [62 by Justin Thomas]

Adam Hadwin, 2017 Career Builder Challenge (La Quinta CC, La Quinta, CA), Third Round, 59 [63 by Whee Kim]


Other (Miscellaneous):

[3] Justin Thomas, 2017 Sony Open (Waialae CC, Honolulu, HI), First Round, 59 [62 Hudson Swafford]

[1] Paul Goydos, 2010 John Deere Classic (TPC Deere Run, Silvis, IL), Second Round, 59 [60 by Steve Stricker]


I am sure that there are many many more 4's and probably more 5's (not sure about 6's or higher).

Charley Hoffman 65, first round 2017 Masters (William McGirt 69). Biggest first round lead at Masters since 1955.

Larry Nelson 65, third round 1983 US Open (3 others 69).

Tom Watson 68, second round, 1979 Memorial. Tom Kite only other player to match par, 72. 42 of the 105 players in the field failed to break 80.

Ted Tryba 61, third round, 1999 LA Open (Tiger Woods 65). Tryba had to make birdie on #18 to shoot 59 at Riviera. He ended up missing the green and bogeyed.

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Here are five people who I think had a Masters round 4 strokes better than the field (one of them has already been posted above by PokerHero77):

Ben Hogan, 1942 Masters, Third Round, 67 (71 by Bobby Cruickshank & Dutch Harrison)

Jackie Burke, 1955 Masters, First Round, 67 (71 by Julius Boros & Mike Souchak)

Dow Finsterwald, 1962 Masters, Third Round, 65 (69 by Arnold Palmer & Jerry Barber)

Nick Price, 1986 Masters, Third Round, 63 (67 by Donnie Hammond, Scott Simpson, and Wayne Levi)

Charley Hoffman, 2017 Masters, First Round, 65 (69 by William McGirt)

Some results from the U.S. Open (one repeated from above):

Having Best Round by 5 Strokes:

Tommy Armour, 1933 US Open (North Shore CC, Glenview, IL), First Round, 68 [73 by six golfers including Walter Hagen]

Tommy Jacobs, 1964 US Open (Congressional), Second Round, 64 [69 by Arnold Palmer & Gay Brewer]

Having Best Round by 4 Strokes:

Olin Dutra, 1932 US Open (Fresh Meadow, Flushing, NY), First Round, 69 [73 by Leo Diegel]

Johnny Goodman, 1933 US Open (North Shore CC, Glenview, IL), Second Round, 66 [70 by Joe Kirkland]

Tom Creavy, 1934 US Open (Merion), Fourth Round, 66 [70 by Macdonald Smith]

Larry Nelson, 1983 US Open (Oakmont), Third Round, 65 [69 by Seve Ballesteros, Ralph Landrum, and Roger Maltbie]

Some results from the PGA Championship:

Having Best Round by 5 Strokes:

Gary Player, 1984 PGA (Shoal Creek, AL), Second Round, 63 [68 by four players including Lee Trevino]

Having Best Round by 4 Strokes:

Tommy Aaron, 1967 PGA (Columbine, CO), Second Round, 65 [69 by Ray Floyd]

Bob Tway, 1986 PGA (Inverness, OH), Third Round, 64 [68 by five players]

Gil Morgan, 1990 PGA (Shoal Creek, AL), Third Round, 65 [69 by David Frost]

Here's my perusal of the British Open (back to 1925):

Having Best Round by 5 Strokes:

Macdonald Smith, 1925 Open (Prestwick), Second Round, 69 [74 by Tom Fernie]

Having Best Round by 4 Strokes:

Jim Barnes, 1925 Open (Prestwick), First Round, 70 [74 by Syd Wingate & J.H. Taylor]

Johnny Miller, 1972 Open (Muirfield), Second Round, 66 [70 by five player including Lee Trevino]

Chirsty O'Connor Jr., 1985 Open (Royal St. George's), First Round, 64 [68 by five players including Sandy Lyle]

Greg Norman, 1986 Open (Turnberry), Second Round, 63 [67 by Tommy Nakajima & Ray Floyd]

Seve Ballesteros, 1986 Open (Turnberry), Fourth Round, 64 [68 by Bernhard Langer]

I'm watching A&E's "Inside Story: Caddyshack". It's freaking awesome. I caught the last half hour of "Inside Story: National Lampoon's Vacation" before. Very funny.

I saw the Vacation one last night. Damn, now I want to see Caddyshack too!

Going to Topgolf tonight for the first time in a couple of years.

Tomorrow it's Bluejack National hopefully from the 7500y tees. Now THAT'S gonna be fun.

Here are the results of my searches for players who had the best round of the day by at least 5 strokes in an official PGA Tour event.

I have covered all Masters tournaments, all stroke-play PGA Championships, and went back to 1930 for both the US Open and British Open. For non-majors, I went back to 1958.

I am pretty confident that the rounds appearing in the table below are correct, but there may be others as well (though I tried to be comprehensive).

By the way, I would estimate that there are several hundred rounds in which a golfer bested everyone else in the field that day by at least 4 strokes.

Strokes	Score	Name	Tourney	Round	Finish	Miscellany
6	63	Dave Marr	1958 Texas Open	1st	T3 (4 strokes behind)
6	59	Al Geiberger	1977 Danny Thomas Memphis Classic	2nd	Won by 3 strokes	First sub-60 round on PGA Tour
6	63	Calvin Peete	1983 Georgia-Pacific Atlanta Classic	3rd	Won by 2 strokes	Final round of rain-shortened 54-hole tourney
6	62	Davis Love III	1992 KMart Greater Greensboro Open	4th	Won by 6 strokes
6	59	Jim Furyk	2013 BMW Championship	2nd	3rd (3 strokes behind)	Event limited to 70 players (Conway Farms, Illinois)
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5	68	Tommy Armour	1933 US Open	1st	T4 (5 strokes behind)	North Shore CC (Illinois)
5	66	Craig Wood	1941 Masters	1st	Won by 3 strokes	50 players in field; Wood first wire-to-wire Masters winner
5	62	Doug Sanders	1961 Phoenix Open	4th	2nd (lost in playoff)
5	62	Phil Rodgers	1962 Los Angeles Open	4th	Won by 9 strokes	Jack Nicklaus's first pro tourney (finished 21 shots behind Rodgers)
5	64	Tommy Jacobs	1964 US Open	2nd	2nd (4 strokes behind)	Congressional CC
5	62	Jack Nicklaus	1973 Ohio Kings Island Open	3rd	Won by 6 strokes
5	62	Gibby Gilbert	1973 World Open	1st	T15 (13 strokes behind)	Two-week eight-round tourney at Pinehurst
5	62	Tom Watson	1973 World Open	5th	T4 (6 strokes behind)	Two-week eight-round tourney at Pinehurst
5	61	Johnny Miller	1975 Dean Martin Tucson Open	4th	Won by 9 strokes	Miller won Phoenix Open week before by 14 strokes
5	62	Hale Irwin	1979 Jackie Gleason Inverrary Classic	2nd	3rd (6 strokes behind)
5	62	Andy Bean	1983 Canadian Open	4th	T4 (2 strokes behind)
5	63	Gary Player	1984 PGA	2nd	T2 (4 strokes behind)	Shoal Creek (Alabama)
5	62	Denis Watson	1984 NEC World Series of Golf	2nd	Won by 2 strokes	Event limited to 42 players (Firestone)
5	63	Doug Tewell	1986 Los Angeles Open	4th	Won by 7 strokes
5	63	Jim Gallagher	1993 Tour Championship	1st	Won by 1 stroke	Event limited to 30 players (Olympic Club)
5	60	Davis Love III	1994 United Airlines Hawaiian Open	2nd	2nd (1 stroke behind)
5	61	John Huston	1996 Memorial	2nd	5th (5 strokes behind)
5	60	Steve Lowery	1997 Buick Challenge	4th	T3 (5 strokes behind)
5	59	David Duval	1999 Bob Hope Chrysler Classic	5th	Won by 1 stroke	5-round tourney
5	61	Fred Funk	1999 BC Open	2nd	2nd (lost in playoff)
5	61	Chad Campbell	2003 Tour Championship	3rd	Won by 3 strokes	Event limited to 31 players (Champions GC)
5	60	Phil Mickelson	2005 FBR Open	2nd	Won by 5 strokes
5	66	Vijay Singh	2006 Mercedes Championship	4th	2nd (lost in playoff)	Event limited to 28 players (Kapalua)
5	61	Vijay Singh	2006 Deutsche Bank	3rd	2nd (2 strokes behind)
5	62	Adam Scott	2007 Memorial	2nd	T5 (3 strokes behind)
5	63	Geoff Ogilvy	2009 Memorial	3rd	T10 (8 strokes behind)
5	62	Graham DeLaet	2010 Reno-Tahoe Open	3rd	T31 (9 strokes behind)	Event opposite British Open
5	61	Tiger Woods	2013 WGC-Bridgestone	2nd	Won by 7 strokes	Event limited to 73 players (Firestone)
5	60	Sung Kang	2016 AT&T Pebble Beach	2nd	T17 (9 strokes behind)	Event played over multiple courses (Kang at Monterey Peninsula CC)

nice work whosnext...interesting to look at.

If I had a nickel for every time the announcers said zoysia...

PS. Every time Adam Scott straddle walks his line, I want to punch him in his semi-anchoring face.

Does everyone have multiple putters that they rotate in and out of the bag? I have a mallet right now and have had a blade and a mid-mallet as well within the past year. Had to sell the last two to fund some tournaments and now I'm kicking myself for doing so.

I have noticed that on courses with big greens I tend to get wild with a mallet putter. Like I have no clue on distance control on the long putts. I can also be multiple feet off on direction from my intended line. I def love the mallet for faster greens and for putts 15 feet and in.

Maybe try a squareback desgn?

All I know is that mid-mallets do not seem to do the trick for me at all.

I have lots of putters and when I'm putting poorly (like this season) they get shuttled in and out of the bag with great frequency, often two at a time. Which is not to suggest that that is a good idea. The couple of seasons where I've putted decently I stuck with the same putter. I really should go back to the center shafted model and stick with it.

Also in the genre of the search for the holy grail, pondering the idea of picking up an R flex driver shaft. The R flex redboard in the 917f2 I picked up is performing well.

received a golf group email from a friend of mine this morning

Experiment with weight. Add weight to the head 10g at a time. It helps to steady your stroke, specially on long putts for me. It also forces you to slow down your stroke. Heavier putter seems to need less force to make the ball go the same distance. You can also add weight to the grip end to counterbalance it and find your happy median. I've never putted better in my life than I do now that I've found my perfect balance and I rarely practice putting anymore.