Ok bro keep doing the same thing and I'm sure it will all change. I actually meant 5I but typed 4 so yeah I more or less agree with Bo.

Funny thing is if you weren't always trolling you might discover that people that have played WAY more golf then you and played it way better than you and play at a level way higher than you might just know a thing or two about the game. Hell u may even learn something.

Either that or keep whistling 2 irons around because I'm sure you are puring them.

Oh and you probably would be better off playing with fewer clubs in ur bag

I know for a fact Id shoot lower if I removed my 3/4 irons. I dont really have anything to replace them with, but that doesnt matter. I hit my 5i well enough, but MIGHT hit my 3/4i decent 1/5 times. If I just left them in the bag for anything but punching out from weird lies Id be fine.

Unfortuantely I have an ego

I'm no good and I carry a 3, 4, and 5 Iron.
The reason has nothing to do with how I hit them.
They are in memory of my brother, who introduced me to golf.
He passed away on his birthday 2-26-2013 at the age of 61.
Me being the only other golfer in the family I inherited his golf clubs.

ARC the above posters are right and your inexperience is shining through here with you making the comment that you are going to carry that 3 iron so you have 14 clubs instead if 13 thinking you would be at a disadvantage. Throw another wedge in the bag if that is your thinking. Chances are a 3 iron and a 4 iron are just going to produce bad shots for you as they are not easy clubs to hit for really any golfer let alone a 26 handicap who seems to have been a 26 handicap for god knows how long now so your improvement rate seems to be slow (not hating on you, I dont know what your schedule is like, just pointing out an observation). If you are going to hit bad shots with these long irons, leaving them out of the bag is beneficial even if you have 13 clubs since you wont be tempted to hit them.


As far as the blanket statement goes, I think it is pretty obvious that no high handicappers should hit a long iron. Im not even sure like a 8 handicap should carry a 3 iron. The statement isnt wrong

get a 3w and a 4h and you're good.

90+% of scratch golfers shouldn't carry a 3-iron.

A hypothetical in the 14 club argument, let's say a random 100 shooter has a driver with 7* of loft, and an XX 46-inch shaft. Would he be better off carrying it, or not carrying it and teeing off with his properly fitted 3W?

BO

BO that is too easy of a question lol. Obviously it shouldnt be in the bag and they would benefit from the 3w. Manufactures are making the shafts longer for every wood now it seems and it is just doing more harm than good

Sure it is, but just wanted to point out to the forum as a whole that many times a golfer would be better off with 13 clubs than 14 clubs one of which is totally unhittable.

BO

BO i've got a club fitting question. my clubs are all off the rack, never been fitted for anything. i suspect i need my clubs shortened by probably a full inch, i'm already choking down on every shot.

what is the best way to get my current clubs modified? can a club builder modify my current clubs for a somewhat affordable rate?

should the club builder cut the inch from the butt or the head of the shaft? do i need entirely new shafts?

another idea i had was to keep my clubs at their current length and just have him add several layers of tape in the grips so they fit better in my hand as i'm choking down 1-1.5".

ARC,

Lose the 3, 4 and 5 iron. Try to do a better job of listening to these people. They're only trying to help.

Pretty simple to just take an inch off the top and slide the grip back on. That will change the swing weight of the club somewhat, but chances are you're not really going to notice that.

For most golfers that will do the trick with little issue, but like anything else, you could get much more detailed and get properly fitted and get all brand new sticks custom made for your swing with the exact length and shaft and all that.

If you're a double digit handicap the simple option above is almost always the best, if you're shooting in the 70's regularly you might consider getting properly fitted.

There's a couple others here that could probably give you more exacting detail, but that's the short of it.

BO

thanks!

Oh my God.

I really don't hit my 3i noticeably worse than any other club in my bag. I know you guys don't get that because you are really stubborn and like blanket statements.

But I'm not going to leave the club at home because YOU GUYS can't hit it and feel butthurt.

I love having a very low lofted club for long punch outs from under trees. I play on ****ty courses with tight dirt lies (south Texas) and overgrown, unmanicured tree canopies. Having a 3i to choke down on and punch out helps.

Additionally, please read my damn post. For whatever reason I'm not great with my 4w or 3h off the tee. On long par 3s or par 4s with forced layups (severe 90d doglegs) having a long iron to hit helps me.

Stop with the stupid blanket statements. I'm not leaving a club at home because YOU GUYS can't hit it. That would be severely dumb. And if I don't hit it well then I'm not going to hit it.

Never seen so many people get so butthurt over a bad golfer carrying a club they can't swing without breaking their wrists. Get over yourselves.

Right now the 2i isn't in my bag and hasn't been since I got a 3h as a gift.

And bwslim, you reallllly need to quit with the "IM A PRO THEREFORE I'M RIGHT" bull****. That doesn't fly on this forum.

ARC I guarantee you we all can hit a 3 iron better than you but that doesnt mean its good. Can you not punch out with a 6 iron? LOL at 3 iron being the club you need to punch out. You must be the greatest 26 handicap on earth that cant improve

Holy **** phb, worst dunning Kruger ever. This is terrible. Keep hitting your bad 3irons.

You're arguing the merits of limping with aces because you always lose with them on a forum where people are knowledgeable about poker. That's what you're doing here with this argument.

Lol good luck Mr

Part if improving as a golfer is learning to think on the course. You apparently would prefer not to do that

And loooooool at punching out

I'm going to go out today and buy a 1-iron just to piss you guys off.

Seriously lol @ being bothered by what's in my bag. Get a life.

It doesn't bother us. It bothers us that good advice is being wasted because you're being obtuse. No one is saying you CAN'T do something, they're just suggesting that there's a better method.

You didn't say 'I just feel like keeping it even though it's the less EV play'. You said 'I can hit my 3 iron just fine'

No, I said "Until I get a wood or another hybrid I'm not going to deliberately play with 13 clubs". Try reading.

Here's a write-up from a round I played not long ago on a links course I saw for the first time: "Ripped a 4 iron to a 193 yard par 3 that settled 42 feet past hole on the green then 3-putted for bogey. Also mashed a 4iron over a lake and between two greenside bunker and settled the ball on the green 19 feet from the hole. Beautiful shot! Only reason I attempted this was because I hit that tee shot with the 4iron just a couple holes earlier so I felt confident."

The par 3 shot was right at the flag but ended up settling 207 yards out instead of 193.

The 2nd 4i shot I hit was ridiculous. I was at the edge of a huge lake with a carry of probably 150 yards. Probably about 200 yards from the flag. Flag was right half of the green behind the right short greenside bunker. There was a left short greenside bunker as well so I decided to split them and aim for the left part of the green since I wasn't sure I could fly the right bunker. There was probably 15-20 yards between the 2 bunkers so a decent window to try to split. I first grabbed my 3h but every once in a while I still top it so I didn't want to hit into water - especially since that's where my drive just landed. LUCKILY, I almost never top my long irons so I thought about grabbing my 3i but had hit that beautiful 4i shot moments earlier so I felt more confident ripping the 4i. Hit a beautiful lowish bullet dead straight right between the bunkers that settled on the green and stopped 19 feet.

KEEP HATING.

Enjoy your 4h, 5h, 6h, 7h, and 8h that will allow you to stay competitive into your 90s. I heard they are working on Pitching Wedge Hybrids and putter hybrids pretty soon.

True badasses play irons and aren't scurrrred of them.

how so? Is it going to hurt someone's back to carry an extra club around the course? I have a 60 degree that I carry and hit maybe once every 5 rounds on average, but when I want it it really helps to have it.

meh, I pretty much always punch out with a 3 iron also. Its really the only club I can reliably keep <20 feet off the ground for the first 30-50 yards and certainly the only one I can curve both ways on a low trajectory. There is no way in hell I could keep a 6 iron low enough if I am in the trees. I shoot in the 90s fwiw.

I seem to recall having this same discussion with the forum at some point in the past, and just shake my head at it. The proper composition of a set of clubs is one of those things like diet where people love to dispense one-size-fits-all advice.

In general, is a hybrid or a fairway wood going to be easier to hit than a 3i? Sure. But it isn't true for each and every golfer. Just because ARC isn't very good doesn't mean that he has a wood or hybrid-friendly swing.

Then again, I carry and consistently use a 1 iron, so LOL me.

CDL, please throw all your clubs away. If you shoot in the 90s you'd be better off not even playing!

Booker, 1-iron!? ARE YOU JOHN DALY BRO? DO YOU EVEN LIFT? Do you go in the clubhouse at the turn and butter people's bread for them using that club!?